"The opposite of love is not hate. It is indifference."

Leave Diane Squire alone. Let her try to cash on the the latest fuzzy-thinking, New Age manias. Let her orient her forum to maximize the Feng Shui, minimize negative karma and balance her chakras. This is America, and she's entitled to have silly ideas and profit from the foolishness of others.

Squire was a nonplayer in the Y2K debate aside from her cameo appearance as a sysop at TB 2000... a forum that had virtually no impact on the outcome of Y2K. Her posting on TB 2000 proved one could have the highest number of posts and yet say very little of substance. Her tour as sysop proved that power does corrupt, particularly if your intellectual framework is largely constructed of stick incense and hemp fibers.

I don't think Squire is "evil" nor do I think her forum warrants DOS attacks. Let "the market" decide if anyone wants to buy what she is peddling. Be indifferent....

-- Ken Decker (kcdecker@worldnet.att.net), May 20, 2000

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I agree, Ken!

-- Observer (lots@to.observe), May 20, 2000.

What is Diane's forum? Where is it?

-- (retired@nd.happy), May 20, 2000.

Enjoy

-- Bingo1 (howe9@shentel.net), May 20, 2000.

She mad alot more sense than you did Kenny. At least she didn't vascilate everytime a new news item came out.

-- ThreePoh (crayonboy@zanata.opg), May 20, 2000.

I agree Ken!

I don't think it's useful to point out that sub specie aeternitatis (in the eyes of eternity) Diane did not matter, because that's true of ALL of us - what do any of us matter in the grand scheme of things? In our own world, we do matter. She mattered in that world, although as you point out, she -quite ironically- really didn't say much of substance even in the small arena that was TimeBomb 2000.

Somewhere in the archives maybe in GNIABFI, Mr. Polly had some sensitive comments "about" Diane that were the best I've seen - about Diane the public persona, because that's all we know after all.

I don't wish Diane any ill. Those who bear her a grudge don't want to abide those others "preaching" to let it go, because they want to think and do what they want to think and do! Very well... all I know is it wastes the precious energy I now have, to dwell on ANY of the screwed up things which I latched onto over this insanity called Y2k. Talk about regrets, whoa! Time down the drain is the most poignant one.

Maybe I don't wish her any ill, because I was out of here by the time she was cranking herself into overdrive with the moderator role, and in fact, that was what DROVE me out of here. Seen the dynamics before, didn't trust them as far as I could throw them. So I CAN understand having emotional residues over the things that stung because they were under your skin, boy can I! What *I* would like to do is take the whole team of public Y2k internet pundits, round them all up and put them in a public arena and BOOOOO! throw tomatoes, whatever. .... I don't know what else. It was all that, which most hurt ME in the Y2k saga. The critical mass of "public opinion" here on the internet over Y2k. What a fool I was. But it's as much MY fault for latching onto all this. Looking back, where I was in 1996-97 I can see it coming and why I let myself in for it, and back then Y2k was distant enough that it actually did seem (even in the light of today) rational to be concerned. But fear mounted, driving out reason. And unfortunately that became the modus operandi of this forum, late in the game though it was. Sad.

But each one of us is different and has different sore spots. You have to get it out of your system whatever it takes. Unless you actually prefer pursuing the personal vendetta. Up to you, of course.

-- Debbie (dbspence@usa.net), May 20, 2000.

"The opposite of love is not hate but indifference". I remember reading this quote in 1982, right after my divorce. It rang true to me then and still does. Ken, you should put this in one of FS's threads. Maybe you already have.

-- Lars (lars@indy.net), May 20, 2000.

Lars: saw a cute bumper sticker on a truck today:

Driver carries no cash, he is Divorced....

No offence, thought you could use some humor today. :-)

-- consumer (shh@aol.com), May 20, 2000.

Never did go for your touch-feely attitude, but she never did anything to me, nor did ever see her be hateful to anyone either. LL deserved everything she got!

-- yiupee (yipeee@yipeee.xcom), May 20, 2000.

Decker, what an ignoramus you are. You start a new thread about Diane Squire to tell folks to ignore Diane Squire?

ROTFLMAO

You are one stupid SOB, dude. And the rest of your fan club have apparently lost consiousness from having their nose up your ass for so long.

-- LOL (bwhahahah@hahahah.), May 20, 2000.

Well-said, Deb. FWIW, I think it's the same for everyone -- no matter what side of the stupid "debate" you sat on.

-- Patricia (PatriciaS@lasvegas.com), May 20, 2000.

Shoot, even though a "polly", I was still about a 2.5-3.0 on the 'Doomscale' as late as last September. It took a full-blown natural disaster to convince me to drop on down to the 0.5-1.0 level and to realize that maybe, just maybe, we'd get past the rollover without too many significant disruptions after all.

Guess an old boyfriend of my sister's said it best: "Build a bridge, and get over it!"

-- Chicken Little (panic@forthebirds.net), May 21, 2000.

Hey, I'm in Silicon Valley today. Anyone want me to look up Diane?

-- Flash (flash@out.silicon.valley.way), May 22, 2000.

Diane's farewell, March 1, 2000.

Leavin... On A Jet Plane... Dont Know When Ill Be Back Again...

http://hv.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=002h5y

-- (the@recent.past), May 22, 2000.

Ken,

Her forum is listed as private now. There's a new post there that you may be interested in...

...or not.

-- flora (***@__._), May 22, 2000.

NOT private. click here to get in.

ALL are invited (with the exception of trolls and debunkers)

[Note to OTFR: I post here using the anonymizer. Do you really think I would post with my "real" ISP? Your continued "outing" of me serves no purpose.]

[imposter troll from 216.34.244.103 NOTE to all: Diane has been in regular contact with me, and this is one of the cyberstalkers she is talking about. OTFR]

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredsp@gte.net), May 22, 2000.

see also "Diane- is this e-mail from you?

Dear iForum and Sustainability Friends,

Due to an intensified cyberstalking, hate and harrassment case, which I have filed a police report on, I've made a life decison to redirect my focus from Sustainability issues and place them where my heart's desire is... on developing my sacredspaces.com web-site and architectural design activities.

As such, effective immediately, I am closing the Sustainable Business & Living iForum on the MIT/Greenspun servers at...

[posted by imposter from 216.34.244.18, although the quoted email from Diane is genuine. OTFR]

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspacesfs@earthlink.net), May 22, 2000.

Let's leave Diane alone. I apologize for the comment I made above, which was made in jest, and aimed at those who are bugging her.

-- Flash (Somewhere@in.silicon.valley), May 22, 2000.

Ok, well now I am confused as all get out. Imposter troll inserts message, OTFR inserts message, wouldnt it be wild IF we really did know who is behind all this?

I cant tell who is who anymore as for OTFR, vs. Diane vs. LL?

As for ISP's I dont think anyone can track those, noticed that those ISP numbers are usually close to the same that have been posted prior.

FWIW, why didnt this imposter crap just get deleted? Instead it leads to a page that is 'no page' at all.

I am a curious one. Things that make ya go hummm?

-- ????? (who@iswho.huh?), May 22, 2000.

????? You are just to DUMB to follow.

-- (Ladylogic@...), May 22, 2000.