Sex and the summer lull : LUSENET : TB2K spinoff uncensored : One Thread

I agree with Brian McLaughlin... the dog days of summer are here for the forum. There was a spark of interest on a few threads regarding sex. From my perspective, they were far more interesting than Andy Ray taking "the artists formerly known as doomers" to task... in absentia. Tis spring, and a young man's fancy turns to something other than rehashing Y2K. Were you folks in the neighborhood, I might suggest we are all overdue for for cold drinks and casual conversation. Despite the Federal Reserve's 50 basis point increase, the economy seems to have long enough legs to make it through the year. There are the usual geopolitical tremors, but nothing startling. Oh, and we have a few more weeks to completely ignore the insipid presidential race between two lackluster candidates. Indeed, we are far better served by enjoying the timeless joys of summer... including all the naughty ones. Bacchanalia, my friends (and foes), for we have fretted long enough.

-- Ken Decker (, May 16, 2000



I can agree with that. As you may know, Brian, Jim and I have to go.

For me Europe is sure; when you talk about going to developing countries you never know.

I travel [I hate travel] alot of my time. Everytime I leave, I find on return that some major problem has occured on this forum. It still survives. The last time I returned I learned about EZboard. Ed and I had a few discussions about that one. I suppose that means this board is still alive and will continue. Ken good roads.

Best wishes,,,,

-- Z1X4Y7 (, May 16, 2000.

"Bacchanalia", translated means... (?)

-- CD (, May 16, 2000.


"Bacchanalia", translated means... (?)

I think it means some kind of big fun.....:^)

-- Jim Cooke (, May 16, 2000.


That is the best post Ive seen of late,nice balance and rather journalistic but still laid back and telling.My favorite line was "for we have fretted long enough."

The summer should indeed be the time for us to shed our y2k worries,dogmas and differences,this IS 2000 but it bears no resemblance of a y2k that was painted last May.

Thank you for your invitation Ken,I'll keep the cooler full just in case.(pardon the pun)

And just for the ladies......Wanna sand rassle?

-- capnfun (, May 16, 2000.

I think it means some kind of big fun.....:^)

I guess you were right, Jim. I just did a search:,5716,11771+1+11633, ml


also called DIONYSIA, in GrecoRoman religion, any of the several festivals of Bacchus the wine god. (-snip- ) Introduced into Rome from lower Italy, the Bacchanalia were at first held in secret, attended by women only, on three days of the year. Later, admission was extended to men, and celebrations took place as often as five times a month. The reputation of these festivals as orgies led in 186 BC to a decree of the Roman Senate that prohibited the Bacchanalia throughout Italy, except in certain special cases.

Sign me up, Ken!

-- CD (, May 16, 2000.

Somehow misbehaving doesn't sound so bad if you use a literary reference. (chuckle) I would be delighted to host a gathering, or fly to our modern Gomorrah (Las Vegas). I think the boxers/briefs debate would be far more entertaining in person... and after ample libations. Alas, I doubt we'll ever find enough forum regulars in one place to reach critical mass. If you are passing through my area, please feel free to drop an email.

-- Ken Decker (, May 16, 2000.

Inspiration for "Air on the G String" by J.S. Bacchanalia

-- (, May 16, 2000.


Vegas or Reno sounds good to me. You'll find me at third video poker machine from the left :^)

-- Jim Cooke (, May 16, 2000.


I'd be up for some cold ones and casual conversation. It has been previously mentioned that we all get together for a few laughs and some talk-sounds like lots of fun. Las Vegas or Laughlin sounds doable for me. Any takers??

-- Aunt Bee (, May 17, 2000.


I think we can all see that you are merely a shill for the govt. who is obviously trying to distract us and lure our attention away from the REAL issues at hand; certain impending doom, exploding nuclear reactors, leaking sarin nerve gas and martial law signs. Nice try spinner, we are brighter than that!


-- cin (cin@cin.cin), May 17, 2000.

If you make it Laughlin, Nevada, I'll dance topless on the table with my wispy, gold and silver veils trailing all around me (hiding my face, of course).

-- (Solome @nd her seven .veils.), May 17, 2000.

I'm up for either L.V. or Laughlin. Count me in!

-- Flash (flash@flash.hq), May 17, 2000.


That would be great, except maybe if you are Manny or Hawk!

-- Lurker2 (nevada@here.we.come), May 17, 2000.


Can you pencil me in for the sand wrestling? __neeked of course...

Lol., and Orange Cream Margarita's PLEASE.?

--ps, do you have a hot tub?

-- consumer (, May 17, 2000.

I imagine Las Vegas offers more flight options for those of us living in exile on the east coast. Perhaps we could schedule our gathering concurrent with some survivalist expo... that way the EZBers stop by and feel it wasn't a wasted trip. Another random thought, I think "LadyLogic" lives in nearby AZ. I can only imagine what impact her arrival might have on the festivities. Egads.

-- Ken Decker (, May 17, 2000.


I think that Soldier of Fortune has a yearly convention in L.V. sometime during the summer. I'm not sure if they still do it, though.

LadyLogic does indeed live in Phoenix. If she came, she would surely be one of the main attractions.

Patricia, you have Las Vegas in your email address. Do you really live there? Perhaps you can suggest some interesting and cost-effective places to convene?

-- Flash (flash@flash.hq), May 17, 2000.

Someone set a date quick before everyone flakes and the enthusiasm dies....again. =o)

I'm only about 5 hours (drive) away from Las Vegas, 30 minute flight.

I say we make it either really soon, or after the worst of summer heat is over, maybe sept/oct. Otherwise, we roasted chickens.

-- cin (cin@cin.cin), May 17, 2000.

You can bet I'll be there -- lurking, -- of course :o)


-- (Ladylogic@...), May 17, 2000.


Patricia, you have Las Vegas in your email address. Do you really live there? Perhaps you can suggest some interesting and cost-effective places to convene?

Yes, I do live here, but I just moved here a couple of months ago (yes, I already have a "favorite restaurant" [g]). As to cost-effective, most of the major hotel/casinos will give you a pretty good deal on the rooms (they expect you'll drop a bunch in the casinos). If you're flying in here, you can also get some great three- and four-day package deals that include airfare and hotel. If there's a large enough group, you might be able to get "group rates", though I don't have any details on that (there are a lot of "weddings" here).

The Bellaggio is outrageously expensive, but well worth a look -- it's absolutely beautiful. Most of the hotel/casinos have rooms for around $100/night, but there are some non-gaming places to stay as well (most off The Strip). Beware: Taxi fares are expensive; even more expensive than NYC (which is where I moved from). Unbelievable. Good thing is that the airport is almost "next to" The Strip (try to fly in at night so you can see it all lit up -- amazing sight).

There are a bunch of web sites to check; here's a few:

Access Las Vegas

City of Las Vegas Official Site

Las Vegas Index (That's where my email address comes from [g].)

Taste of Vegas

Oddly enough, check the banner ads on these sites; every now and then they flash some incredible hotel deals. There are also Internet deals you can get and I'm sure the "travel" sites (i.e., Travelocity) have some deals as well.

Hope this helps. (And I hope my links work [g].)

-- Patricia (, May 17, 2000.

Thanks Patricia!

I was in the Bellagio a few weeks ago, and I agree, it is pretty spectacular. My wife wanted to see it, so we spent a couple of hours there. Didn't have time to take in much of the Strip, though.

Thanks for the URL's, we can check them out. I have a buddy that has an office there and flys in every couple of weeks from out of town. I join him on Fridays when time permits and/or if there is something interesting going on up there. Last week they had the Interop show at the convention center, so I breezed up for that. It takes me about 4 1/2 hours unless crossing Hoover Dam is real slow. Do you live in L.V. proper, or Henderson, or what? Also, it was nice temperature-wise last week. Do you know when the real heat starts?


-- Flash (flash@flash.hq), May 17, 2000.


We went to Interop -- I think it was Wednesday. Reminded me alot of PC Expo in NYC; so much stuff to look into, but not really enough time.

I'm in L.V. proper. The temps have been very nice (I haven't really had to wear long pants since about mid-March, which is quite a change from NYC). I've been told the "real heat" is during the summer months (June through September), but July/August would be the worst. Coming from NYC, I know "heat" when combined with "humidity"; and I do find it quite a bit more comfortable without "humidity". The temp was up around 100 (and slightly over) for a few days about two weeks ago; the only bad thing (I find) is the hot wind that blows.

When I drove out here at the end of February, I came through Hoover Dam. Would love to go back for like a day to really see it (it was kinda hard to park the moving truck and get out to "sight- see"). I noticed the traffic gets quite heavy around there; and heaven help you if you get stuck behind a slow-moving truck (which was *me*) going up the hills [g]).

-- Patricia (, May 17, 2000.

I agree.

On the Fed increase, I really am not an economist but I'm not entirely sure if it's really justified. After all, one shouldn't kill the goose that's laying the golden egg. Why kill the economy now when there is really no sign of increase in the CPI (with the exception of what happened with the oil spike)? Why put people on the street when wage increases are harmlessly accompanied by productivity increases?

If people produce more, why not pay them more? A tight labor market is nothing to complain about if profits are still rolling in.

Then again, comparing present-day rates to historical Fed rates, I don't think it's altogether that high yet. 6 percent is about average, if you disregard WWII and the immediate post-war American Boom. I'm not happy with the rate increase but I don't think it's going to sting until it hits 7-9%.

-- coprolith (, May 17, 2000.

My best to you, gents, as well. I'm spending less of my free time on line and more of it in the yard (lots of ladies lying in the sun, working on their tan maintenance, you know). I don't fear gas increases, stock market crashes, earthquakes, or polluted water: none of those have any impact on the ladies' tanning schedules.

I know what's really important.

-- (, May 17, 2000.

coprolith did you get lost or something?

I think it would be great to have a "convention" in Vegas, if we setr it up for early Fall that would give everyone time to "prepare" :o)

Maybe we could set up a hall with booths, no really, it would be fun! We could have posters of the different participants in Y2K, they could serve MRI's, we could live without utilities in a camping ground, people could barter their Y2K supplies. Well maybe not that extreme, but if it was put together as a convention wouldn't there be some way to reserve a group of rooms at a discount?

Patricia, maybe Doc would know of some of this.

-- Cherri (, May 17, 2000.

Cherri, I think "coprolith" was addressing a point in Ken's original post that started the thread ;-) (I thought the same thing until I re-read Ken's post.)

I don't think we'd have to even set it up like a "convention"; I'm pretty sure we could get the hotel group rate simply based on number of people. Of course, we could look into renting a hall or something, but then we might start running up expenses, unless they have a "convention package deal" or something like that.

It might make more sense to get a feel for the number of "definite attendees", check around with the various hotels for the best prices, and set up one dinner for the entire group at a restaurant somewhere. I'm going on the assumption that it would be like a two- or three-day weekend event?

I have to admit, I have zero experience in this, but it sounds like it's pretty standard. (Please don't make it on or around September 30; that's my brother's wedding and I'll be back in NYC.) I have to say, this sounds like a great idea. I'm looking forward to it!

-- Patricia (, May 17, 2000.


We can probably reserve a block of rooms, maybe on the same floor. I'm no expert at this, but maybe someone in the forum has some experience at such things. I'm more of an expert on Partying! Maybe we should have it at the Stratosphere (which I keep calling the space needle). Did you see Mars Attacks. The L.V. scenes in it were GREAT!

Having it in the fall makes sense in terms of having time to plan, but I'm up for it most anytime. I used to live in Phoenix (years ago) so Las Vegas summer temps don't bother me! Actually, they do, I lived in CA by the ocean for too long.

Patricia, I didn't realize you had only been there a short time. I'll bet you are really enjoying the newness of it all! I have an old college buddy in Henderson, and also the friend that flies in every other week, so I live it up with one of them every chance I get. My friend in the city is located near Paradise and Sahara.

Hoover dam is a major pain to get across. During the day (M-Th) it only takes about 20 minutes, but on Friday afternoon it can take as long as 45 min to go 5 or 6 miles. Those darn semis, tour buses, and motor homes really go slow around those hairpin curves. And then, there's all the people crossing back and forth to both sides. I've never stopped to look at it either, but it looks interesting and I'll check it out one of these days with DW (dear wife) or other relatives.

-- Flash (flash@flash.hq), May 17, 2000.

In my salad days, my college roomie and I had a party and sent invitations saying, " Please come to our Bacchanal" Drinks, food and revelry abounding!!!.

We invited the local sheriff as a guest to make sure no neighbor sent for him in his official capacity. He came. It was a great party. I have a statue of Bacchus at my house and a garden statue of Pan playing the pipes. One always needs Pan to lure in young maidens, you know.

Concerning Las Vegas, I've always sworn I would never set foot in a place that wasted water and energy they way they do. However, my husband is from LA, spent a lot of time in Vegas, and thinks it is great, so I could send him in my place.

-- gilda (, May 17, 2000.

Coming from NYC, I know "heat" when combined with "humidity"; and I do find it quite a bit more comfortable without "humidity". - Patricia

Reminds me of the souvenir T-shirts they sell out there. Cartoon drawing of a skeleton crawling on hands 'n knees across the desert... The caption beneath reads: "Yeah, but it's a dry heat".

I remember a few days reaching 127 degrees while I was living in Laughlin. (On average, Laughlin is approximately 10 degrees hotter than Vegas.) Yikes!

-- CD (, May 17, 2000.

When I worked at the Whiting Refinery, I had to attend a monthly meeting in downtown Chicago. Once there, I typically spent the rest of the day with my IBM support person who had an office in a building nearby. After my divorce, I was visiting with my support person when he told me that a guy down the hall wanted to meet me. I said, "Okay", and we were introduced, chatted a while, etc. Towards the end of the day, he came to the office of my support person and said, "Might I interest you in libations after work?" Uh-duh..let me get back to you. After he left the office I whipped out the dictionary.'s fine. It reminded me of all the folks we'd teased in high-school asking if they believed in pre- marital interdigitation.

Patricia: Do you remember that word similar in definition to libations that someone once used on Debunkers? I remember you and I discussing how fun that word was, and how we should get together for that.

-- Anita (, May 17, 2000.

Aw, gilda, pretty please??? You just have to be here if the "gang" is gettin' together. You can bring Pan and/or Bacchus if you like (though I'm sure there are more than enough here [g]).

CD, one of the best T-shirts I've ever seen is one I saw a guy wearing in Rockefeller Center. It read: "I am not a tourist. I live here and do not answer questions." Kinda says alot about NYers (though we're not *all* like that). I do get homesick sometimes, but that's starting to wane too.

Flash, I love it here -- the weather, the area. But you have to understand I lived in NYC (Brooklyn) all of my life; I've only known "apartment-city life". This is the first time I'm living in a "house" and to me it's the 'burbs (the locals call it a "city" -- HAH!). One thing I love is that just a ten-minute drive outside the "city" you're in some of the most beautiful country I've ever seen. Stuff that was a "vacation" for me from NY is now "Honey, let's go _____ for the weekend." Simply amazing. That's mostly why I decided to pack a truck and drive out here; it was a wonderful trip and I saw some beautiful country out there.

-- Patricia (, May 17, 2000.

Anita, it was "mpc" who mentioned it (and we all ran to the dictionary to look it up): It was "quaffing" :-)

I just *love* the sound of that.

-- Patricia (, May 17, 2000. Donald Duck laughing. Great memory, Patricia. I bet you still have full eyebrows as well.

-- Anita (, May 17, 2000.

Confession time: I actually went back and searched for it (guilty). It's fun going through the old threads sometimes. You said that it sounded like a duck with a cold (rotfl...).

As to the eyebrows, well, yeah, still have them. Amazing really when you consider how much I OVER-TWEEZED in the '70s. Now they are the perfect width/shape/etc. I don't really have to do anything to them. LV is a haven for retirees, so I get to see alot of the "drawn-on" eyebrows (let me clarify: drawn on VERY BADLY). Oddly enough, it's not just the retirees who do that; I see girls in their teens and twenties. Another thing I Don't Get. (I also Don't Get that "waxing the eyebrows" thing -- ouch.)

-- Patricia (, May 17, 2000.

I confess!

Regarding those eyebrows, there are a few weekly shows that run/ran back-to-back on T.V. I think "Pretender" was one and "Profiler" was another. Check out the eyebrows on those shows some time. They must use the same make-up folks. There's an arch up on all the people [including men], and then it looks like someone had a slight spasm before continuing. [I was once preoccupied with teeth before this recent eye-brow preoccupation.]

-- Anita (, May 17, 2000.

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