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Vindicated Regards,
Andy Ray

-- Andy Ray (andyman633@hotmail.com), May 08, 2000

Answers

Because he took a licking. At least he's man enough to shut up.

-- (nemesis@awol.com), May 08, 2000.

You call this "shutting up"?

I agree D.W. Sounds like Psych is just another polly with a hard-on for doomers. Some people just never learn.

Why don't you do me next month, Psych? Tell me what a moron I am, after programming for 32 years. Tell me how bombed I must be for taking reasonable precautions for a potential problem. Tell me how meme infected I am.

I've got a better idea. Why don't you just kiss my ass...

<:(=

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), May 03, 2000.

Sissyman is still full of piss and vinigrette.

-- Hip Hypocrite Hater (hyp@cr.ite), May 08, 2000.

Sysman has produced an interesting reaction. He emphasizes his many years of experience, but never how that experience helped or hindered him. Given his incessant ticking, it can't have helped, so it's a mystery why he'd brag about it now.

And as usual, he tries to redirect the issue to whether preparation was prudent. The ticking had nothing to do with preparation, it had to do with how the utter lack of impacts before rollover was irrelevant, and the actual change of CURRENT-DATE would be the Big One.

Now, why wasn't it the Big One? Sysman's explanation: Kiss my ass! And then he says that *other people* never learn! Apparently Sysman adheres to the common pessimist belief that when you're wrong, you change the subject and attack your critics. *That's* how you get things right the next time, right Sysman?

-- Flint (flintc@mindspring.com), May 08, 2000.

is a prize involved?

-- scorekeeper (ur@dufus.com), May 08, 2000.

"Sissyman is still full of piss and vinigrette."

Someday, the self-righteous pollies will learn the same lesson the self-righteous doomers have when they find themselves in the wrong. Until then, the self-righteous pollies will remain self-righteous. Sysman along with many who were wrong, at least are in the process of learning. Sysman btw, never struck me as being a closed-minded self-righteous man either.

To say "kiss my ass" in this case is like trying to shoo an annoying fly off one's nose. Some people just can't stop rubbing wounds, and are unable to forgive. The fact that doomers were proved wrong is not enough vindication for them.

Such is human nature. Humility is a hard lesson to learn.

-- humble (pie@anyone.?), May 08, 2000.

More Sissyman

Dipshits? You must be new here, so I'll give you a break. Otherwise, I'ld tell you to go fuck yourself. <:)=

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), January 19, 2000.

[Taken from the "deleted threads" forum.]

-- More Sissyman (more@moore.moar), May 08, 2000.

Dear humble,

It has been four months since the doomers were proven wrong - a mere four months. And they are still desparately trying to claim there was some legitimate reason for all their fear, uncertainty, and dread.

I entered the debate at the beginning of 1998. I began as a doomer actually, expecting somewhere around a 6 to 8 on a scale of one to ten. I remained a doomer for several weeks, until I read an article posted by an "expert" I had wrongfully come to respect - commenting about my field of expertise. I was startled by what I read. This person utilised most of the industry buzz-words, and defined them for the general public in a completely ludicrous manner. I was reminded of television shows where an announcer asks six-year-olds to define terms found on college entrance examinations.

After this disappointing discovery, I re-read other information I had accepted as fact with a more critical eye. I began asking questions, and was immediately "shouted down" by doomers. I am happy to say that I resisted sinking to their level throughout the debate.

However, myself and many like-minded pollies were subjected to at least two years of mindless, illogical, and ultimately false drivel. In my estimation, the doomers who thus reacted are deserving of at least two years of reminders of how wrong they truly were. I intend to do my part to see that no one repeats their silly error and lapse of moral courage and responsibility without pause.

Vindicated Regards,
Andy Ray

-- Andy Ray (andyman633@hotmail.com), May 08, 2000.

In addition,,,,Sysman--32 years of programming experience? LOMAOFF.

We have threads on how to do simple hotlinking? (useful, but is this an indication of simply not knowing? or the more likely fact most have not even the most base respect for others to learn how to link properly? and I am supposed to give a crap what a poster is then ranting about? after displaying a disrespect for ME by not even bothering to insert a few lines of HTML? cause of what? laziness?)

We have threads on how Microsoft is unstable and full of holes right next to threads asking why their Mac and AOL-Nutscrape crash on a simple inability by both to interrupt resources properly when presented with 2 hyper-links simultaneously on a thread at this very webforum?

Y2k was many things,,,foremost it was a seemingly universal ignorance of basic technology. Sadly few give a crap and refuse to even read a simple "read me" file. Far easier to remain a DuckEgg and rely upon the very sources the same Doorstop then turns to and points fingers at for the reason they were dicked. You are a MORON because you have given over control of your life to others. All the "preps" in the world will not save you as you are still operating from the position of being a victum-LOSER.

I love the Linux memes the best. Oh ya that sucker will be the answer, NOT now, not never FYI. How many here use Linux? ZERO be my guess. Why? cause it sucks, is this debatable? OK maybe "sucks" is not very descriptive, but you get my drift hopefully. Maybe unworkable for anyone not willing to become a Linux expert maybe more honest, and the TRUTH.

Best line of the day...Heard while talking on a land-line to TicketMonster..."I am calling to find out when my tickets will be delivered"...reply---"Normally we print and send them ahead of the event." onquote...

Keep it up Andy, it does matter.

-- Attack-Paulie (fannybubbles@usa.net), May 08, 2000.

Well thought out rationalization for your self-righteousness, Andy Ray.

The facts remain that you chose to be subjected to flames, and you chose to feel angry about it. Now you choose to try to "make" the once self-righteous doomers feel as bad as you felt.

One can't "make" anyone feel anything. We all choose to feel and think what we want. And in the face of such ludicrous behavior as those who attempt to "make" them feel bad, some people simply choose to answer with "kiss my ass." Still other people choose to ignore and not respond at all, which is the most admirable response IMO.

I'll know you've learned something when you choose to not use your trademark teal colored font. Until then, I'll have to keep choosing whether to suffer your foolishness and ignore you, or be a fool myself and respond to you. It's not easy to resist an itch.

-- humble (pie@anyone.?), May 08, 2000.

...the question here is: who was "humble pie" before the roll-over? Guesses anyone?

-- Y2K Pro (y2kpro1@hotmail.com), May 08, 2000.

Andy,

In many ways I see your side of this ie. pay back is a mother......... but in other ways I have to ask myself a few questions,as a lay person.

You were evidently somewhat of an insider and at some point concluded that Y2K was worthy of consideration and did alot of research on the topic but eventually changed your outlook.I agree that your and others treatment were unjust and wrong but isn't vindication held everyday that we wake up and all is right and OK? You wanted them to be BIGGER people but now you don't want live up to your same standard,but alas, I can see why you are still pissed.

Read one of your last statements;

"I intend to do my part to see that no one repeats their silly error and lapse of moral courage and responsibility without pause."

Damn!!! Thats a big hat to wear too Chief,as big as almost any doomer statement Iv'e read.

The luxury of laughing about past mistakes(our own or others) is a blessing of sorts,there are many other mistakes made daily that we unfortunately will never be able to have that luxury with.

If your intentions now reflect your want of helping people as they were before the rollover your actions now are puzzling,or you simply delight in being right.Is it not better to sometimes walk away or be quiet about our triumphs as it is to hang out and gloat.Then again,only you know where your heart/motives/intent is.both then and now.

Yes,I was a little doomer,did I prep? Yes,did I do damage to my family? No.Did I cost myself productivity? Yes,but only I can measure that.

As far as the hard core doomers:If after rollover those that disappeared or changed personas,purpusely to avoid "I told ya so's" does not sit well.But there are many who state unequivocely that they were wrong,so be it,the crow is served each and every day,at no cost to you.

If your heart Andy is where you say it was pre-rollover all I'm asking is for you to ask yourself where it is now.No attack,no flame.

Best Regards.

-- capnfun (capnfun1@excite.com), May 08, 2000.

Paulie,

You are obviously a technological giant and the rest of us low-lifes would not even consider disturbing you,please take a rose petal bath and dismiss yourself from this drivel,I'm sure it is taxing and beneath your stature.For you to even grace us with your presence is overwhelming,the ladies are swaggering and the gentlemen are speechless.

My mechanics name is Paulie,but at least he's a good dude,YOU need some practice.

-- capnfun (capnfun1@excite.com), May 08, 2000.

humble:

Let's try this a bit differently. As you say, Sysman was always pretty reasonable and rarely abusive. He has (and emphasizes) 3 decades of experience, which is 3 decades more than most of us have. His experience is in IT systems, which is where the worst of y2k was supposed to be. Finally, he was involved directly in the remediation so he knew the problem in detail. For these reasons, I always felt his opinion carried great weight.

For him to misjudge y2k so very badly *despite* all these very real and substantial qualifications is sobering. Hard to fathom. Just as his opinion carried weight, his explanation of what misled him carries great information. Those of us who guessed wrong are (IMO) fine in saying, OK, I guessed wrong. But for someone like sysman, it was about as far from a guess as it's possible to get. Absent such explanation, many can say, Well, if HE can get it wrong with his knowledge, anyone can.

I for one would sure like a bit more insight from Sysman than just an empty admission of error. Wouldn't you? At the very least, he illustrates that the problem was a lot more complex than Andy Ray implies. But complex in what ways?

-- Flint (flintc@mindspring.com), May 08, 2000.

Admitted Doomer, are you happy.? I was wrong. I Was wrong, I was wrong....R U O K now?

Geez I sure hope so.

Vindicated Regards, give us a break.

Capn, you said it best, and in the most polite manner.

----I was wrong, I was wrong, I was wrong....

-- consumer (shh@aol.com), May 08, 2000.

capnfun,

....Quitters never win, winners never quit, but those who never win AND never quit are idiots.

More for ya...try here.

-- Attack-Paulie (fannybubbles@usa.net), May 08, 2000.

I will have to agree with Flints posit,Sysman should be compelled on his own to not only offer up a mea culpa but the reasoning behind his discrepancy.

Or is a blanket statement of I WAS FUCKING WRONG not good enough,should we examine the reasons and minutae behind each sentance?Seems the reasoning was given before rollover and it was examined exhaustively,why the need for exhaustive re-examination?

Sysman,

Join in,let's get this over with once and for all.

Everyone,

When the horse is officially dead,can we stop beating the horse?

Sheeeeesh.

-- capnfun (capnfun1@excite.com), May 08, 2000.

Paulie,

Boy was that ever enlightening,would you care to illucidate on that?

Rather murky and somewhat disjointed,did you have a train of thought?

I am eager to listen and learn,allthough I am not of the upper echelon of your ascendancy.

I am of the common sort,you will have to be forthright and nnon- cryptical.

Thanks for your assistance.

-- capnfun (capnfun1@excite.com), May 08, 2000.

capnfun, And I should care about you and your problem,,,why?

And where Oh where is that sissyman now? No doubt rechecking and redotting his spiel yet again, yawn.

Screw kicking the anthills, let the fireworks begin!

-- Attack-Paulie (fannybubbles@usa.net), May 08, 2000.

play nice.

-- scorekeeper (ur@dufus.com), May 08, 2000.

Ok kids, here I am.

I don't Tick Tock, Andy, because the bomb was a dud. Why didn't you post what I had to say to Stephen Poole later in that thread:

You were right about Y2K and I was wrong. Are you happy now?

<:)=

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), May 04, 2000.

I told Psych Major to kiss my ass because of this remark:

featuring all you favorite meme infected morons of Time-bombed-out- 2000...

-- Psych Major (psychob@b.le), May 03, 2000

And I told the other idiot to go fuck himself because I don't like being called a dipshit.

I'll have more to say later. Right now I've got to go look at a screwed-up file from my mainframe.

<:)=

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), May 08, 2000.

Paulie,

No you shouldn't care about me or if I have problem or not,as I would not contact you if I did. And I agree Sysman should come to the fore and address the issue,If you would have read ever so closely you would have seen it,"Sysman should be compelled on his own to not only offer up a mea culpa but the reasoning behind his discrepancy."

And if you are as tired as most of us are of this antiquated bullshit you are right to yawn,go to bed and dismiss this drivel.

-- capnfun (capnfun1@excite.com), May 08, 2000.

Sysman,

I'm outa this thread unless Paulie has anything further to add to me personally.I am glad that you showed up and are ready to address the situation out here in the real(?)cyberworld and not in eds house.

Now where is that damn tequilla?

-- capnfun (capnfun1@excite.com), May 08, 2000.

Hi cap,

Don't pay a lot of attention to Doc Paullie, he's just a used car salesman with an ego problem... and a personal problem? ( (fannybubbles@usa.net )... LMAO...

Passing the tequilla... want the lime and salt?

-- Netghost (ng@no.yr), May 08, 2000.

Flint:

I don't remember Sysman ever saying he had worked on remediation. I remember him saying that there were too many problems already WITHOUT Y2k adding to his load. I also remember him saying that his company produced a book of sorts that was published annually in April or so. I'd be interested in learning if this year's publication had any problems.

-- Anita (Anita_S3@hotmail.com), May 08, 2000.

Netghost,

Thanks I needed that,no salt but the lime is good as a snack,plus it's chock full of vitamins; )

-- capnfun (capnfun1@excite.com), May 08, 2000.

Capn:

WARNING: Tequilla is dangerous to da 'head'......

:-}

voice of experience, hey, EVERYBODY has a favorite tequilla tale, care to share yours?

come on dont be shy....(VEG)

-- consumer (shh@aol.com), May 09, 2000.

consumer,

I suspect most answeres are going to be the same... what tequilla?

Your pull...

-- Netghost (ng@no.yr), May 09, 2000.

Hey,I'll take a slash,how bout some Porfidio or El Mayor? Will settle for some sauza tres generation.

Consumer,

My best tequilla tale is probably kept between me and the two girls at the beach who also shared a fondness of Mr Quervo : )

-- capnfun (capnfun1@excite.com), May 09, 2000.

Insert "best kept" duh.

-- capnfun (capnfun1@excite.com), May 09, 2000.

CApn:

NOPE dude, no wiggling outt of this one...You said it right the first time...oh damn, you told on yerself....

Told ya tequilla is dangerous to da head...

Prefers The GOLD.....

-- consumer (shh@aol.com), May 09, 2000.

The discussion continues here:

OK Andy Ray, You called me out - here I am

<:)=

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), May 09, 2000.