this roll represents my first real foray into black and white photography. taken in wyoming with 80-200, neopan, yellow filter and polarizer. storm broke about 2 minutes after i took these photos. greg

-- greg rothschild (gnr@toast.net), April 17, 2000

Answers

crop the bottom to the base of the trees, and crop the top about half way into the darkest cloud, and you have a winner.

-- wayne harrison (wayno@netmcr.com), April 17, 2000.

The problem for me is that the top of the mountain cuts right through the middle of the trees. In some light conditions I'd have wanted to walk back to where the trees are fully enclosed by the mountains. In these conditions I'd have walked much closer to the trees and used a low camera position with a wide-angle to position the trees against the interesting sky with only a little land in the frame.

-- David Henderson (hendersons@online.rednet.co.uk), May 01, 2000.

It was a nice try and I find the long foreground helps put the image in some kind of context. But with all beginning B&W shooters, no attention was paid to the tonalities within the image. No m,atter what you do with the elements within this image, the tones are all the same. The trees don't stand out from the hills and the clouds don't really separate from the hills either. Take the neg and dye dodge the trees and then do some cropping and you will have a pedestrian shot. But it will be better than what is here. When shooting BN&W always assess the tonalities and their relationships within the frame. James

-- james (james_mickelson@hotmail.com), May 21, 2000.