savage universe conceived-- species on each other feed.

Maybe some of you more biologically literate people can help us. We are struggling to define a diet that will be nutritional, delicious, and moral. Non-fattening too.

It has long nagged at us that God has designed a universe in which life sustains itself by consuming other life. And yet we are supposed to revere life. But God has given us our brains and free-will. We believe He wants humans to use these gift to devise ways of nourishment that do not require the taking of life. And what of the other beasts that live by savage appetites? Will the lion ever lie down with the lamb (and not eat him?). We don't know; the Lord has not revealed how this will come to pass.

Some species do survive without murdering other life forms. Trees, for example, obtain sustenance from sunlight, carbon dioxide and water and the nutrients in water. True, these nutrients were formerly alive but the trees didn't kill them.

A small group of penitants has formed The Church of Moral Nutrition. We strive to live as a tree, taking nourishment from the elements but not taking life. Alas, humans cannot yet live as a tree. Pray as we might, we cannot do photosynthesis. Simple vegetarianism is not the answer. Plants are alive and, if we kill them to eat them, we are being immoral. But verily, there are plants and animals too that offer nutritional parts of themselves to us in a way that we can consume these offerings without harming the doners. Indeed, we are doing them a favor. Some exanples are fruits that can be picked from trees or bushes, milk that is donated by cows and goats, nuts and carrion.

The mission of our church is to further define what is moral nutrition and then to prosyletize to the ends of the earth. There are many questions yet to be answered--is it moral to eat eggs; is it moral to eat food synthesized from non-living chemicals (Twinkies?); can a human metabolism be developed that will take energy directly from the elements as does a tree?

We humbly ask for your thoughts. Yours in caloric morality---

The Elders, The Church of Moral Nutrition

-- Lars (lars@indy.net), April 15, 2000

Answers

Recycling ourselves = Soylent green = just kidding.

We are working on photosynthesis in the lab....see thread started a few days back.

Throughout history man has eaten anything and everything that provided some protein...plus a few berries and roots. Those canine teeth of ours were once a tad longer. We were probably scavengers much of the time (read road-kill). We ate meat raw until we got lucky with fire.

To be honest with you, we just don't look very good under close scrutiny. Witness our many secretions and our many orifices. What did we do when we didn't have kleenex and charmin?

Lars...your church has a colossal job ahead...so good luck!

Oh...btw...I'll be glad to join when you solve the above. :o)

-- fauna (xxx@...-.ed), April 15, 2000.

Lars,

Sure, you could do it, especially if you don't mind eating milk and eggs. Have fun, and say "hello" to the Great Onion for me.

Frank

-- Someone (ChimingIn@twocents.cam), April 15, 2000.

Lars:

What makes you think that plants don't kill other living organisms. As an expert in the area, I can tell you that they do. I spend my time learning how they do it.

Best wishes,,,,

Z

-- Z1X4Y7 (Z1X4Y7@aol.com), April 15, 2000.

Z--

Coises, I'm foiled.

-- Lars (lars@indy.net), April 15, 2000.

Dr. Klaper presents important facts abouteatin meat and Heart Disease, Fat, Nutritional Needs, Calories, Milk, Osteoporosis, and Vitamin B-12. You may purchase the complete video program from the Institute.

Medicine has been fascinating to me because it constantly teaches me something if I'm open to it. Back in the 1850's the German philosopher, Goethe said, "what you know about you see." Once you know about something you start seeing it everywhere, and this is certainly true about medicine, and it is certainly true when it comes to nutrition. I want to increase your viewing of things that you may know about so you start seeing things differently, especially when it comes time to order your next meal in a restaurant or when you are pushing your cart down the supermarket isles trying to decide what to bring home for dinner.

Nutritional Awakening

It began when I was on the cardiovascular anesthesia service, and that's the service that deals with people's hearts and blood vessels. One evening I was making rounds to see a patient who was scheduled for a four-vessel coronary by-pass several days hence, and the man had been out on a day-pass with his family before surgery, quite a common practice. He had returned to the hospital rather late and the nurse notified me that there were several blood tests that were missing off his chart that we needed to repeat, and so she asked if I would draw blood on the man, which I happily did. I drew some of his blood into a glass tube and I brought it to the nurse's station and I let it sit there while I got busy with some work in the ward. An hour and a half later I went back to the nurse's station to take the blood tube down to the laboratory. What I saw in the blood tube gave me a rude awakening.

When you draw blood into a glass tube and allow it to sit there for a couple of hours, it separates out into two parts.

Here is normal blood on the left. You see the red clot on the bottom and the clear liquid serum has risen up to the top? The serum should be transparent, you should be able to see through normal serum. However, the blood in my patient's tube looked very different. The serum that was floating on top of his clot was thick and greasy white, it looked like ivory glue when I shook the tube; the serum stuck to the sides of the tube.

I went back into the room and said, "Sir, before you came back to the hospital tonight, did you stop off anywhere from dinner?"

He said, "Yes"

"Where?" I asked, and he said he had stopped at his local gourmet restaurant and he had his usual fare. And I said, "What did you have?"

"Well, I had a double-bacon steerburger with extra cheese and a milkshake" (a common offering at such institutions).

And at that point, I realized what I was looking at in his blood tube, what was all the floating on top of his blood tube. It was all the beef-fat in the burger; it was all the butter-fat in the cheese; it was the butter-fat in the ice cream; it was the egg yoke fat that was in the mayonnaise that was slathered on the bun. All the fat that this man had eaten had oozed out into his bloodstream and turned his blood fatty.

Day after day, month after month

This is a well known phenomenon, it is called lipima and it happens every time you eat a fatty meal, a wave of fat goes through your bloodstream. Not everybody shows it this optically densely, but everyone has a wave of fat going through their bloodstream after a fatty meal. How can it be any other way?

There's an old saying, "out of sight, out of mind." Might be out of sight, might be out of your mind, but it's certainly not out of your bloodstream after such a meal. Your body is never "not looking." There's no fooling your body. You can't tell your body, "Look over there!" and then have a cheeseburger, and then your body says, "What was that, what was that?" Your body knows exactly what you eat. Your bloodstream andyour liver has to deal with everything you eat, and with the consequences of each meal.

These consequences build up day after day, month after month, year after year. The face you see looking in the mirror is the result of the decisions you've made throughout your life. Should I eat this? Should I not eat that? Should I smoke this? Should I not smoke that? Should I drink this? Should I not drink this?

Health is not something the doctor can apply to you like calamine lotion. Health is something you do on a daily basis, and making wise decisions at the dinner table is one of the best things you can do to assure your health.

I went back to my patient and discussed a bit about his dinner, but there was not much to say because the fat was already in his blood. What was especially disturbing to me, however, was several days latter we took him down to the operating room. I gave the man a thousand micrograms of pheontonel and put him to sleep, and the surgeon opened up his chest and opened up his coronary arteries. From this man's coronary arteries he began pulling yellow, greasy, waxy, fatty deposits that look like this:

What you are looking at is the plug of fat that built up in a man's right coronary artery. The artery was a tube coming out at you from the picture. The artery wall has been cut away and you are looking at the plug of fat that built up. The fat started out at the outer edges of the artery wall. As the months and years go by of these repeated tides of fat flowing through the arteries, the fat starts building up on the inside of the arteries, like scale builds up in the inside of a hot water pipe. And as the months and years went by, the fat had crowded in and crowded in on his blood flow channel until finally only the small dark area was left for the blood to flow through. When a clot formed here, it stopped the blood flow the his heart, stopped his heart and bought him a ticket to the autopsy table. This is the number one cause of death in western societies.

In North America every thirty seconds someone grabs their chest and falls over with a heart attack because this greasy material is clogging up arteries to their heart. This disease is called atheriosclerosis, and it is the number one cause of death and disease in western societies.

This material is quite remarkable. When you send it down to the pathologist and you ask him to do a chemical analysis the report always comes back the same: "saturated fat and cholesterol." Essentially, it's animal fat. The report from the pathologist never, ever, ever contains the words "remnants of broccoli, rice and tofu."

The good news is this stuff will melt away. If you clean up your diet and start taking a walk everyday, and you get rid of some of the stress that builds up within you, this is a reversible disease and will melt away.

Reversing Heart Disease

I want to tell you some things about this process so you can make better choices when it comes time to decide what your going to have for lunch or for dinner. Here's a simple analogy from clinical medicine.

This is a rather famous curve in medicine called the glucose tolerance curve. It just says if you give someone a hundred grams of glucose (that's a sugary drink that you swallow -- sugar is a very small molecule which moves through your bloodstream very rapidly) within a half an hour their blood sugar goes up to a 170 or 180 milligrams. But immediately the pancreas senses the sugar in the blood, and puts out insulin. So the blood sugar comes down fairly rapidly, and by two or certainly three hours, the blood sugar should be back to normal again.

This is not the case with fats in your diet. Fats are a much larger molecule and they move into the bloodstream much more slowly and they come out of the bloodstream much more slowly. If you eat a fatty meal and have someone draw blood on you every hour for the next six hours, and you look at those six blood tubes, you will see them becoming milkier, and milkier, and milkier as the fat moves into the bloodstream. In fact if you take those six tubes and you put them into an instrument that measures how milky the serum is becoming (that instrument is called a spectrophotometer), you will generate a milkiness index. It's called the Lactescence index.

And here you see a classic curve: someone has a bacon and egg breakfast say, and over the next 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 hours you see the blood becoming milkier and milkier as the fat moves in. This is a very significant time curve. With the sugar, the sugar was up and down within three hours. At 5 hours the fat is just reaching it's peak. This has grave consequences (pun intended), for people eating in the western dietary style. Let's take this same curve and let's extend it out throughout the day on someone who is eating in a standard western style and what you will generate is a figure that looks like this:

Let's say at breakfast time, a person has bacon and eggs and the fat moves into the bloodstream at 9:00, 10:00, 11:00, 12 o'clock. So at 12:30 in the afternoon, the fat from breakfast is just reaching it's peak. What happens at 12:30?

The person heads off to his favorite fast-food restaurant and orders his double-bacon steerburger' with extra cheese, and another wave of fat goes through the bloodstream: 1:00, 2:00, 3:00, 4:00, 5:00, and 6 o'clock in the evening the fat from lunch is just reaching it's peak. What happens at 6 o'clock in the evening? If your a working person you may stop off at your favorite fried chicken institution on the way home and order some extra crispy thighs dipped in bacon grease and you take that home.

And another wave of fat goes through the bloodstream, 6:00, 7:00, 8:00, 9:00, 10 o'clock at night . . . the fat from dinner is just reaching it's peak. And what happens at 10 o'clock at night?

Usually one spouse turns to the other and says, "Dear, do you have any ice cream in the freezer?" and another wave of fat goes through the bloodstream. 10:00, 11:00, 12:00 and so on, and around 3 o'clock in the morning the fat from the snack is just reaching it's peak. The liver, the arteries are swimming with fat. The fat deposits out in the arteries, deposits out in your fat stores, finally it starts leaving the bloodstream and the fat level comes down in the bloodstream just as the dawn is breaking, just in time for the whole fatty circus to start all over again.

When we see the diseases that western human beings suffer from, the clogged arteries, the high blood pressure, the obesity, the diabetes -- these are not random events. These are not curses from a wrathful god punishing us. These are the inevitable consequences of running fat through your bloodstream, hour after hour, day after day, month after month.

How to lower your cholesterol

It's my humble assertion that the best way to lower your cholesterol is: stop eating it.

Only animals make cholesterol. No plant makes cholesterol. And you have no metabolic requirement for animal products whatsoever. Let me underline that again. The human body, the very one your sitting in right now, has absolutely no nutritional requirements for the flesh of animals or for the milk of cows.

When you are reversing heart disease, as you clean up your diet, and this clogging starts melting away, the blood flow will increase. Just a little regression in these plaques means a big increase in blood flow and that's why angina will go away so quickly, that's why people can walk further, that's why their blood pressures go down so quickly, it's one of the major reasons. There's another which I will share with you in a minute. But this gives you hope if you or a relative have clogged arteries. Rather than signing right up for that artero surgery, it is certainly worth, if your life is not in immediate danger, to try a low-fat, pure vegetarian diet and a walking program. Expect good things to happen, because they usually do -- and quickly.

Here's another reason why people feel so good, so quickly. When you eat a fatty meal, imagine what happens to a red blood cell floating in all that fat.

Well, here you see it represented schematically. As the hours go by, blood cells get coated with fat. Here is a capillary, a tiny little blood vessel, let's say it's in your brain, or in your heart. As the blood cells that are carrying oxygen become coated with fat, they become stickier and they start sticking together. As a result the blood vessels start clogging up. We say there is "slugging" of the blood flow. It looks like at freeway a rush hour and the blood cells start moving slower and slower. You can see this through a microscope, these normally rapidly moving blood cells start moving very, very slowly. And that's why so many heart attacks happen after dinner, because the blood is flowing so thickly.

Well, the good news is that if you consume foods that don't have a lot of fat, you can expect the blood to stay free-flowing, which is another reason why blood pressures go down; the heart doesn't have to pump this thick blood through the arteries. And so blood pressures go down and blood flows more free-flowing, and for that reason angina frequently goes away. All sorts of advantages happen as we eat less and less fats.

Slimming down

I have been a physician for over twenty-two years. I have never admitted anyone to the coronary care unit with a diagnosis of olive oil embolism. We are talking about saturated animal fats. Some of the heavier, denser, saturated plant oils; palm oil, coconut oil, avocado oil, play a tiny role in contributing to this problem. But have no illusions: the majority of people suffering heart attacks and strokes, and the other diseases I showed you, are suffering largely from the large amount of animal-fats they have consumed.

Animal-fat also sticks to you. When you turn your blood fatty and that fatty blood goes through the fat stores underneath your skin, the fat deposits out there. This is not a random event.

Those people who are angry because they are still carrying excess weight and they can't figure out why that fat is sticking there, they need to take an honest look at what is on their plate. As this person changes their diet, as they move toward lower fat, whole foods, whole grains, whole potatoes, whole fruits, whole vegetables, they will become leaner. It certainly happened to me.

I began to change my diet and I felt. "If I do not run all this fat through my arteries, I'm going to be spared this problem." So I stopped eating meats and dairy products. I was concerned that I may not get enough protein or vitamin B-6, or vitamin B-2, so I checked my nutrition books to see what might possibly be a deficiency showing up. It turns out that there is absolutely no nutrient, no vitamin, no mineral, no protein that is found in animal foods (in meats and dairy products) that can not be obtained out of plant-based foods, that includes vitamin B-12 and we'll be talking about that shortly.

So, as I went to more plant-based foods, I found a wonderful change happening. My cholesterol level fell sharply. My blood pressure, which had been slightly elevated, fell to normal levels. But most impressive to me, I had almost a 24 pound! That's, I guess, almost a two stone spare tire around of fat around my waist, which I could not get rid of even though I had beenrunning five miles a day. Within 12 weeks that 24 pounds of fat melted right away. I found myself waking up in a nice, lean light body. And this was not through deprivation -- I was eating tremendous amounts of Italian food, and Chinese food, and East Indian food, and Thai food, and potatoes, and pastas.

I highly recommend that at least half your diet be composed of fresh, live, uncooked fruits or vegetables. The more you cook food, the deader it gets. The more the vitamins are destroyed, the more the proteins denature. So a good general rule is make sure that half the food your eating on a given day, is food as grown. Lots of fresh vegetables, fresh fruits, fresh salads. Lightly steamed, 3 or 4 minutes in a vegetable steamer, but avoid overcooking and over processed foods.

What do you really need to run a human body?

You need six nutrients.

ENERGY- Comes from carbohydrates and fats. Those abound in grains, and legumes, and fruits and vegetables, and in the starches, and the oils.

PROTEIN- Abounds in grains and legumes, and green vegetables.

VITAMINS and MINERALS- To metabolize all these nutrients, are found in green and yellow vegetables.

WATER- And of course, water is freely available.

This is all you need to run a human body, and all of these are available in the plant foods that grow out of the ground.

Four Food Groups

We have the new four food groups these days, based upon whole grains, vegetables, legumes and fruits. And they will supply all your requirements for proteins, vitamins and minerals without burdening the body with extra fats.

All calories are not created equal. Calories are just units of heat measurement from physics class. It doesn't tell you rather those calories are coming from clean burning carbohydrates or stick to your waist fats.

Here's 300 calories in a stomach and you can see it doesn't take up very much room, it doesn't satisfy you very much after a meal. On the other hand, 300 calories of potatoes are going to fill your stomach right up and yet do it with very little fat and this is going to pass right on through. So when my patients want an extra helping of rice and vegetables, I'll say "By all means, go ahead and don't even worry about how many calories are on your plate" Again, what was sticking to that obese man's abdomen was not rice and vegetables, it was all of the fat he had eaten. So, go ahead and enjoy the whole foods, without undue concern for calories.

Dairy Dangers

I will no longer drink the milk from cows nor consume products made from that milk. Cow's milk is a superbly engineered fluid that will turn a 65 pound calf into a 500 pound cow in a year. That is what cow's milk is for.

Unfortunately, it often has that same effect on human beings. And people who are trying to get themselves leaner and they are still consuming dairy products, should have an honest look at this fluid. Even if the fat is extracted, even if you are eating low-fat cheeses and low-fat yogurts, there are still many substances in cow's milk that clearly cause problems when they're entered into the human system. Cow's milk has bovine proteins in it. It has casein and a whole number of cow proteins. When these proteins get out into the bloodstream (and they do) they flow through joint membranes. In some people this can cause rheumatoid arthritis to flare up. When these cow proteins flow through bronchial membranes, can cause asthma to get worse.

Bovine proteins are notorious for setting off inflammatory reactions throughout the body. Not only are there the bovine proteins to be concerned about, but cow's milk -- whether it is non- fat or not -- has lactose sugar, which many people can not digest. Lactose will give these people cramps and diarrhea when they consume cow's milk products. Cow's milk products also contain substantial amounts of pesticides and herbicides, which have been sprayed on the feed grains and then fed to the cows, these are all deposited in the milk. Cows are fed large amounts of antibiotics to keep the cows from getting infections, and these are frequently found in commercial cow's milk.

Whole milk is filled with artery clogging fat, allergenic proteins, indigestible milk sugars, antibiotics, herbicides, pesticides, and -- cow pus. It's enough to make me not want to pour it on my cereal. I don't want to eat cheese made from it. I will do anything to avoid dairy products. I will pour soy milk on my cereal, I'll pour rice milk on my cereal, I'll pour apple juice on my cereal, I'll pour anything -- except cow's milk -- on my cereal.

When my patients come in with rheumatoid arthritis or asthma, the very first dietary maneuver I do is ask them to pull the dairy products out of their diet. I am repeatedly amazed how quickly so many of these symptoms resolve with the simple expedient of removing cow's milk from the diet.

There's a lot of other sources of calcium than cow's milk. I mean where to cows get their calcium? Think about it, cows do not drink milk. Where do they get all that calcium? Well they get it from green plants of course. Green plants are loaded with calcium and so are grains, and nuts, and seeds, and fruits and vegetables. The plant kingdom has lots of calcium available. You certainly don't have to drink the milk of a cow any more than the milk of a giraffe, or the milk of a horse. And I submit to you that many health problems you have may well respond after the removal of dairy products from your diet.

The high protein content of animal products, when is metabolized, it leaves a lot of acids in the body, sulfur and sulfuric acids, and these acids have many detrimental effects. The chief effect being that these acids help calcium dissolve out of the bones. It's one of the major contributing factors to osteoporosis -- the tremendous amounts of chicken and fish, and high protein diets that so many of us consume, even though we may be eating less red meat.

When I ask my, especially my female patients, what are you eating these days? It comes back, chicken and fish, chicken and fish, chicken and fish, chicken and fish, chicken and fish. I think it's one food, it's "chicken-and-fish."

"What are we having for dinner tonight, dear?"

"Oh, we're having chicken and fish."

"Oh good, make mine medium rare!"

You are not doing yourself a favor, if you think, "Well, this chicken-and-fish is lower fat food. It looks white, it's not red and bloody, it looks white, so it's cleaner."

Kid yourself not; animal muscle is animal muscle. It doesn't matter if it flaps a wing or moves a shoulder, or wiggles a tail. Animal muscle is essentially the same stuff from species to species. It all contains essentially identical amounts of protein and fat, very little carbohydrates, and lots of cholesterol.

They've done studies where they have taken people eating red meats and changed them to eating chicken and fish, and their cholesterol levels did not drop a wit. There's no reason that it should, all you've done is changed the color of the meat. Changing the color of the meat does not help.

By the way, I'm serious about the osteoporosis issue. The ethnic group on the planet with the worst osteoporosis are the Eskimos, who live up in the Arctic. They eat all this fish, and all this seal meat. They run lots of protein through their bloodstream. They have horrific incidences of osteoporosis from the steady drain of calcium out of their bodies.

Osteoporosis is not a disease of calcium deficiency, it's a disease of calcium loss. And that calcium is going out through the kidneys from a number of causes. A sedentary lifestyle, to much animal protein in the diet, caffeine, sugar, salt, alcohol, all these things make you urinate out calcium. If you want to avoid osteoporosis, look on your dinner plate and see that chicken and fish is not doing you any great favors.

Something's fishy

Fish has some other problems with it as well. I know a lot of people are on their continuum: as their diet evolves, many people go from red meat, to chicken, to fish, to dairy products, and finally to a vegetarian diet,and then a vegan diet with no animal products.

If you are on this continuum, if you are moving towards a pure vegetarian diet, bless you. I do not want to make you feel uneasy.

But if you are in chicken and fish land, I urge you -- do not linger there to long.

Fish these days, besides being very concentrated protein, is by far the most polluted of all the flesh foods. For this reason I really feel that fish does not offer much at all in the way of a health food,. And if it's the last part of animal products in your diet -- again, have no compunction about letting it swim off your plate all together.

Vitimin B.-12

One issue that we need to cover is about vitamin B-12. This issue is very important. Vitamin B-12 is an essential nutrient that you need for healthy blood and healthy nerves. There is a prevailing feeling that only animal products contain vitamin B-12, as if cows make it.

Let me be very clear about this, cows do not make vitamin B-12. They never have, they never will. Pigs don't make vitamin B-12, chickens don't make vitamin B-12, no animal makes vitamin B-12. They never have, they never will.

Vitamin B-12 is made by little microscopic plant cells called soil bacteria that live in the earth. And long ago when the earth was healthy and the soils were healthy, before we put all sorts of chemicals on them, the surface of the earth was covered with vitamin B-12. There used to be lots of vitamin B-12 in our lives, even if you were a pure vegetarian 300 years ago. You'd open up the back door of your cottage and outside would be a beautiful organic garden, and every carrot you pulled out of the ground would have little particles of vitamin B-12 sticking to it. When it came time to get your water, you'd take a bucket of water out of the stream, there would be vitamin B-12 in the stream water. There would be B-12 in the well water you brought out. There would be B-12 under your finger nails from working in the garden. There would be plenty of B-12 in your life and you needed so little of it, that it was not an issue.

We've become very isolated from the earth and we've lost our natural sources of B-12. Cows have B-12 in their muscles because they're eating grass all day and their pulling up clumps of dirt that have B-12 producing organisms clinging to the root of the grass. They eat the B-12 producing organisms who then produce the B-12, which gets absorbed into their bloodstream, goes out into the muscles, and is deposited into their muscles and livers. But that is bacterial B-12 in the cow's muscle. The cow did not make it, nor did the pig or chicken. It's true that you can go up to the cow, bash it's brains in, rip open it's abdomen, tear out it's liver and eat it to get your vitamin B-12. But I submit to you there is far less expensive and less violent ways to get your vitamin B-12.

Those same organisms are now cultured in big vats, they produce their B-12 which is separated out. It is then sprayed on breakfast cereals, it's added to soy milks, it's added to soy burgers, it's added to nutritional yeast, it's added to vitamin tablets. It's easy to get vitamin B-12 without consuming animal products and I suggest to you if you really want to lighten up your diet, find a non-animal source of B-12. Is it unnatural? Only because the lives we're living are unnatural, and I think it's a much more holistic and gentle way to meet your B-12 needs.

We are evolving our diets. We're continuing an evolution. What our caveman ancestors ate is of little import to us now. The question is, what is the best diet for modern human beings? And in my personal experience, in my medical experience, and certainly as far as the medical literature is clearly showing now, the less animal fat and animal protein you run through your bloodstream, the healthier you are going to be.

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Eating meat causes cancer. It will eventually kill you!

God's Way to Ultimate Health

By Rev. George H. Malkmus

The year was 1976. I was 42 years old and I was told I had colon cancer.

A tumor about the size of a baseball had been found underneath my left rib cage where the transverse and descending colon come together. I was devastated! I asked, "Why me Lord?" I didn't understand!

It was because of this - what appeared to be a tragic event in my life, and the research and personal experiences that followed - that I was taught GOD'S WAY TO ULTIMATE HEALTH.

Let me elaborate a little more on how it all happened. In 1976 I was the pastor of a Baptist Church, near Glens Falls, New York, a church I founded in 1970. It was a very successful ministry. Membership in this church grew from nothing to over 600 members. In addition to the church, we had a Christian School, grades K through 12, along with a Bible Institute, both of which I also founded. Five large busses brought people to the services, while my radio broadcast, America Needs Christ, was heard on many radio stations each week. Over a dozen young people from our church and school were in college preparing for full-time ministry. Trul y, this seemed to be the high point of my ministry and God was certainly blessing.

Just prior to all this, I had watched my mother die of colon cancer. Mom was a registered nurse, and she believed her doctors when they told her that chemotherapy, radiation and surgery were her only hope of surviving. Mom submitted to these treatments and died a horrible death! At the time of her death, I felt it was the treatments she received at the hands of the medical doctors that ultimately caused her death rather than the cancer itself.

What was I to do? Should I submit my body to the same medical treatments mom had? What I had seen my mother go through was so horrible! Also, as a pastor for 20 years, I had sat at the bed-side of so many people and watched the devastating effects of chemotherapy, radiation and surgery experienced by others in the treatment of their cancers, I had also conducted the funerals for many of them.

Another thing that bothered me was that in so many cases prayer didn't seem to make any difference. I had seen some of the most dedicated Christians, even after great faith, personal prayer as well as collective prayer, get sicker and sicker and often die after going the medical route. What should I do? I had a family and a church that needed me. Many people told me I should go the medical route and some were putting pressure on me to do just that.

It was during this time of uncertainty that I turned to an Evangelist friend in Texas by the name of Lestor Roloff for help. Brother Roloff was one of those "health-nuts." We often affectionately referred to him as "Carrot Juice Roloff." I was really in a dilemma as to what I should do for my cancer when I called Brother Roloff. His advice to me sounded strange. He advised me not to go the medical route of chemotherapy, radiation and surgery, as mom had gone... BUT TO SIMPLY CHANGE MY DIET TO RAW FRUITS AND VEGETABLES, AND DRINK LOTS OF FRESH CARROT JUICE!

Wow! That sounded too simplistic! But it sure sounded better than the medical route which I had pretty well decided not to pursue. So, overnight I changed from a meat-centered, cooked and processed food diet with plenty of sugar desserts, to an all-raw diet with lots of carrot juice. I stayed on this total raw diet for approximately one year. I didn't eat any cooked food during that year ... just raw fruits, raw vegetables and one to two quarts a day of freshly extracted, raw carrot juice.

The results were spectacular! Almost immediately I started to get well! In less than one year, my tumor had totally disappeared. It simply got smaller and smaller until it was gone. But that was not all. In less than one year, every physical problem I had been experiencing also disappeared! Such physical problems as hemorrhoids, hypoglycemia, severe allergies and sinus problems, high blood pressure, fatigue, pimples, colds, flu ... even body odor and dandruff were gone! Totally healed!

In the years that have followed - and I am over 60 years old at this writing - I have not experienced as much as a cold, sore throat, upset stomach, been to a doctor or taken as much as an aspirin. It is so thrilling, at my age, to still be able to play football, basketball and softball with the boys, jog five miles with ease, and have more energy, endurance and stamina than I had when I was 20 years old.

With that as a little background, let me share how God used this experience in my life to create Hallelujah Acres Ministries and the writing of this book. You see, ever since that day in 1976 when I was told that I had cancer, I have been researching nutrition, healthy lifestyle and how it all relates to the Bible. Also, I have been experimenting on my own body to see how it reacted to various foods. Along with all this, I have also been watching and listening to the testimonies of thousands of others who have made similar dietary changes.

My conclusion after all these years of research and experience is that WE DO NOT HAVE TO BE SICK!!! Disease and sickness are self-inflicted! Almost every physical problem, other than accidents, is caused by improper diet and lifestyle! All we have to do to be well is eat and live according to the way God intended! In the almost 20 years since I recovered from colon cancer, one of the most basic and important things I have learned is that there is a vast difference between God's ways and man's ways! I have found that while most good Christians want to go God's way, and have tried to protect themselves from the sins of the world, they have accepted the world's teachings in almost every area of life concerning how to care for our physical bodies, which are the temple of God. A tragic example of this is when you look at the two ways to approach cancer, one of the most devastating and horrible diseases in history. My mother went the world's way (the orthodox medical route) in an attempt to rid herself of her cancer. She accepted the drugs, radiation and surgery of her doctors, and as far as I am concerned, these treatments were what caused her death! I rejected the world's way and went God's way. I turned to the Bible, adopted God's original diet as found in Genesis 1:29 and every physical problem simply went away, including my cancer.

And my experience was not unique! My wife Rhonda came to a Health Seminar I was conducting in 1991. (We were married April 11, 1992.) She was wearing a size 20 dress at that time and was almost crippled with arthritis. Within approximately one year after changing her diet and lifestyle, she had lost over 80 pounds, reduced her dress size to a 10, and her arthritis was totally gone. Even a degenerated spine, the result of a bout with spinal meningitis at age 7, had healed. Yes, X-rays revealed her spine was totally healed, degeneration gone in less than two years after changing her diet and lifestyle.

Another example is a dear friend of mine who was a diabetic when I first met him in 1989. At that time he was trying to control his blood sugar with pills prescribed by his doctor. I encouraged him to change his diet in 1989, which he did not do. Two years later the doctor told him that the pills were not adequate any more and that he must be admitted to a hospital to adjust and stabilize his blood sugar and start him on two daily shots of injection insulin. Again I told him he needed to change his diet. And again he paid no heed.

After another two years had elapsed, the doctor told him that he needed to put him into the hospital and cut off his foot, which is not an uncommon occurrence for those who go the orthodox medical route in the treatment of diabetes. Only this time he said "no" to his doctor. Instead he came to one of our seminars and immediately adopted God's Natural Diet. In less than two weeks he was off insulin and his blood sugar was in normal range. That was over two years ago. Today, he is still off all medication and still has both his feet!

We have received thousands of testimonies as dramatic as these, and some even more so, from people who have switched from the world's way of eating and treating physical problems to God's way. As you continue to read through this book you will read many of their testimonies.

What we need here in America and around the world is a HEALTH REVOLUTION! We must turn away from the world's way of dealing with physical and emotional problems and turn to God's way! The world's way is bankrupting us, costing Americans over a trillion ($l,000,000,000,000.00) dollars a year while the physical and emotional condition of our population -Christian and non- Christian alike - continues to decline.

In order to make intelligent changes, we must realize there are alternatives to the world's approach to health and how to deal with physical problems. We must understand both ways ... and why one works and why the other does not. Sadly, very few people, including most pastors, preachers and evangelists, have been aware of God's way, when it comes to the physical body. Thus we have been programmed only in the world's way, even from the pulpits in our churches.

Because of this programming, most people, when they first hear of God's ways, think them strange and "far out". So in order to help understand the differences, let's look at a few physical problems being faced by many people today and compare the two ways of dealing with these problems.

Take cardiovascular problems, which result in heart attacks and strokes. Heart disease is the number one killer (50% of all deaths) in America today. Every 34 seconds, someone in America dies from physical problems associated with this disease. The cost to those who go the medical route for the treatment of heart disease is over $110 billion per year.

The first approach usually taken by medical doctors in an effort to control this problem is to prescribe drugs. It is not uncommon for a person with high blood pressure to be given as many as three or four drugs. One of these drugs will chemically force the blood vessels to dilate (get bigger), thus lowering blood pressure. But this drug causes the heart to speed up. In an effort to control the speeding up of the heart caused by the first drug, the doctor usually prescribes a second drug to slow it down. Each of these drugs is capable of causing the body to retain fluid. Thus the doctor often prescribes a third drug, a diuretic, which is designed to chemically force the body to release the extra fluid being retained in an effort to try and keep all these drugs (poisons) from doing more harm.

Almost all of these drugs can cause impotence in males. The diuretics can cause dizziness, headaches and even depression ... while at the same time raising cholesterol levels! Then there are the "beta blockers" that can cause not only depression, but insomnia, as well as liver and kidney damage. The world's approach of using drugs just causes more and more problems within the body while never dealing with the cause. To top it all off, there is the devastating financial costs of going this medical route. In an effort to reduce cholesterol, doctors prescribe over two billion dollars ($2,000,000,000.00) worth of drugs a year, and frankly, they don't do the job. Yet the side effects from these drugs can cause liver damage, headaches, diarrhea or constipation and are now being linked to depression, violence and even suicide.

Angioplasties (balloon therapy) is another way the world tries to deal with clogged arteries. The average cost of this procedure is $ 15,000, not counting the drugs and follow-up. And yet a study in the Journal of the American Medical Association in 1992 showed that half of the angioplasties in the United States were probably unnecessary. Studies also show that for those who underwent this procedure, 57 percent have their arteries clog back up.

Then there is by-pass surgery. The average cost of this operation is $45,000. It is a very dangerous operation, that finds most patients back on the operating table within three to five years (because their arteries have clogged back up again), if they are not dead. About 5 percent of by-pass surgery patients die on the operating table.

One of the latest of the new technologies for cleaning out the arteries is called atherectomy. This procedure is something like a Roto-Rooter, They take a tiny, high-speed rotating knife, insert it in the arteries and ream out the cholesterol. This also is a very risky surgery.

Now compare all the above efforts by medical doctors (the world's way) of treating cardiovascular problems with God's way. Here at Hallelujah Acres, we have testimony after testimony from people who had experienced high blood pressure, high cholesterol and clogged arteries who were able to totally reverse these problems, usually in a very short time, by something as simple as changing their diet and lifestyle. How can this be?

Well, it all goes back to our failure to eat and live the way God intended. The world's diet is full of fat, salt and other contaminates that clog up our arteries and produce all sorts of physical problems. Yet, in most instances, all people have to do to correct a physical problem is change their diet and lifestyle! When they do this, the body will usually cleanse the arteries by itself and the problem will usually simply disappear in a very short time. And furthermore, studies show that if a person stops consuming animal products, they will reduce their chances of ever having a heart attack or stroke by over 96 percent!

What is the cost of going God's way? Probably a reduced grocery bill and a long healthy life. While the cost of going the world's way can be continued physical problems and thousands and thousands of dollars in medical bills for treatments that never get to the root cause - namely diet and lifestyle. I have found that the world's way (accepted medical procedures) for dealing with physical problems is almost always wrong! Take diabetes as another example. Compare the world's way of treating adult-onset diabetes with God's way in the case of the friend we just read about. Going the doctor/drug route, my friend had continued to deteriorate for years as his doctor increased his insulin while using antibiotics and other drugs to treat infections in his feet, which the doctor told him were being caused by his diabetes.

By the time the doctor told him that he needed to amputate his foot, my friend had already spent over $40,000 treating his diabetes! But he refused to let the doctor cut off his foot. He simply changed his diet and lifestyle, and in less than two weeks he was off insulin and his blood sugar level was in normal range.

As I write this, it has now been two years since my friend changed his diet and lifestyle from the world's way to God's way. He has taken zero drugs during these two years and he still has both feet. He also had heart problems which have totally disappeared.

Take arthritis as another example. The medical profession still says that the cause of arthritis is not known. The only thing they tell their patients is that they can expect it to get worse and worse and that there is no way to reverse it. They also treat arthritis with drugs and surgery while the patient's physical condition usually continues to decline. Cortisone and similar drugs are often administered to try and help relieve the pain, but it doesn't last long and when the pain returns, it is usually worse than ever. The side-effects from these drugs can include high blood pressure, diabetes, cataracts, bone loss (osteoporosis), ulcers and more.

Now compare the orthodox medical approach to the testimony of my wife Rhonda with her arthritis and what happened when she changed from the world's way to God's way. She was crippled up with arthritis for over 10 years, unable to walk a block without extreme pain. She took pain pills by the handfuls. Within one year after changing her diet, she went from not being able to walk a block without severe pain and exhaustion to speed-walking four miles in less than an hour! Her arthritis was totally gone and she has not had a pain pill since. Not even an aspirin. What did she do to bring about this total elimination of arthritis from her body? She simply changed from the world's diet and lifestyle to God's diet and lifestyle, and all her physical problems simply and quite quickly disappeared.

Compare my mom's experience with mine in the treatment of cancer. Mom went the world's way and accepted the doctors' chemotherapy, radiation and surgery ... treatments that I felt ultimately caused her death. I refused the world's treatments, adopted God's diet as He gave it in Genesis 1:29, and my cancer simply disappeared. I have been totally free of all physical problems since 1976.

On God's Ultimate Diet, almost every physical problem usually disappears in a comparatively short period of time! Weight normalizes. Emotional problems disappear. Life takes on a whole new glow and becomes exciting. Until someone personally experiences it, they cannot fully comprehend the total scope of the benefits of living and eating God's way. It improves the physical, as well as the emotional and psychological well-being of a person. People become happier, depressions go away, problems don't seem so monumental. Our whole outlook on life improves. Even the spiritual part of us becomes more attuned.

Most doctors mean well, but all of their training is in the world's way. In fact, the average doctor knows practically nothing about nutrition because the typical doctor has received less than three hours of nutritional training in his or her entire preparation to become a doctor. And the nutritional training they do receive is the world's way, not God's way, so what they have learned about diet is not able to help our bodies to strengthen their immune system and heal disease by creating healthy new living cells.

Sadly, most doctors are just as sick as their patients! If doctors cannot keep their own bodies well and functioning properly, how in the world can they help anyone else? However, we are thrilled to find that more and more doctors are starting to question their indoctrination in medical school as they see the devastating consequences of their drugging, burning and cutting patient after patient. Many are allowing their eyes to be opened and are moving in God's direction. Pray for them. The peer pressure and controls on them by their union, the American Medical Association, is very powerful. In many states, a doctor can lose his license if he recommends or treats his patients' physical problems with anything other than drugs, radiation and surgery.

The key to preventing heart attacks, cancer, diabetes, arthritis and a host of other physical problems is in our own hands. We can literally control whether we are going to be sick or not and how long we are going to live by simply choosing how we live our lives ... the world's way or God's way! God's way leads to a long, happy, pain-free, sickness-free life! While the world's way usually leads to a short, unhappy, sickness-filled life with lots of pain and suffering, to say nothing of the financial costs. This book sets before you two very different paths, one a broad road (the world's way) that leads to destruction and the other a narrow road (God's way) that leads to life! I trust that you will very carefully consider both roads as you continue to read through this book and that you will choose "GOD'S WAY TO ULTIMATE HEALTH!"

"...I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both you and your seed may live:" (Deuteronomy 30:19)

-- ... (...@...com), April 15, 2000.

@:

I didn't read your propaganda attack because it is too long. If you have something to say, you can be as briefly as Flint. Unfortunately, I already know what it contains. If you believe this stuff I would classify you as one sick puppy I've seen it before, here Repeating it doesn't do much for me. I do think that it will play well on EZ board; from what I've seen.

Best wishes,,,,,,

-- Z1X4Y7 (Z1X4Y7@aol.com), April 15, 2000.

Yes, EZ Board would love that long diatribe. As for me, I'll take popsicles.

-- gilda (jess@listbot.com), April 15, 2000.

Yo folks,

Sorry my tongue-n-cheek church flushed out the likes of Mr @. It was meant to be a satire of some of the fringie religious types. But there was a kernal there--I should have started a thread on that alone. To wit---

I am troubled by the very savage nature of the universe designed by a loving God. Species eat eachother. That cute lil kitty is really one efficient killing machine. I don't see how to reconcile this.

-- Lars (lars@indy.net), April 15, 2000.

Congradulations on your recent graduation. I've been a friend of your father for years. I've just got one thing to say to you........soybeans!

-- fauna (caton@humor.ed), April 15, 2000.

Said Lars: "I am troubled by the very savage nature of the universe designed by a loving God."

Savagery is a subjective human assessment. The universe is neither savage nor gentle. It merely IS. Far from being "troubled," I am truly amazed at the wonderfully complex and interesting interrelationships of all the uncountable parts and systems, all working together as they should.

Stop putting your own interpretation on something that we will never fully understand. Just sit back and enjoy the feeling of respect and awe at what has been wrought.

Hallyx

"And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should." ---the Desiderata

-- (Hallyx@aol.com), April 15, 2000.

Lars:

I appreciate the satire and got the point...and the humor.

And yes, the Universe just IS...whatever IS is. (Go to search and type in Monica) From my observation the Universe can be both savage and gentle (starving children and softly falling rain) but I know/think/feel it is mindless.

As far as possible without surrender be on good terms will all persons.

-- fauna (xx@..-ed), April 15, 2000.

Lars-- I laughed at the title and thoroughly enjoyed the humor.

Do you plan on regular services? Or are we all on our own?

-- Pam (jpjgood@penn.com), April 16, 2000.

I hate typos..with..not will.

Lars
The lion and the calf will lay down together, but the calf won't get much sleep.W Allen

Time to go beddie bye and dream of all the aka's I use in posting.

-- fauna aka 8 of 9 (zzzzzzz@cosmos.now), April 16, 2000.

Church Elders, you are too late. this topic is fully covered in the novel, Milroy the Magician, by Paul Theroux. It also covers the moral imperative of regular bowels.

-- Brian McLaughlin (brianm@ims.com), April 16, 2000.

So, the Venus Flytrap and the Pitcher plant are both examples of high cholestrol flora? They have a shorter lifespan than other plants?

Man is an omnivore... Always have been, always will...

I would hate to "murder" a wheat plant for food... ROTFLMAO!!!

(snicker)

scratchin' an itch...

The Dog

-- The Dog (dogdesert@hotmail.com), April 16, 2000.

"Will the lion ever lie down with the lamb (and not eat him?)"

I don't know but yesterday on the news was a story of a mouse put in a tank with a snake. The snake will not eat him although it has eaten other mice put in since. Apparently they are still living together in peace.

I REALLY did see it on Headline News!

-- Debra (thesnakeliesdown@withthemouse.com), April 16, 2000.

Lars:

Your piece was well done; but some of the activists do have a point.

Can you imagine raising a living organism [Sacred Life] ; breeding it; stealing its young and grinding them into a powder? Then mixing the powder with water, yeast and oil and baking them. Immoral. Reminds me, I have to go bake bread!!!

Best wishes,,,,

-- Z1X4Y7 (Z1X4Y7@aol.com), April 16, 2000.

Debra,

That is interesting but I bet the snake would eat the mouse if they stopped feeding him.

-- (snake@the.grass), April 16, 2000.

Snake-

Interesting. Obviously something is going on with the snake right now to NOT eat one PARTICULAR mouse.

If it was hungry enough would it eat a "friend"? Wonder if they tried that?

-- Debra (??@??.com), April 16, 2000.