Raising Method: By Azn Beast (repost)greenspun.com : LUSENET : B's Monster Rancher 2 : One Thread |
Raising methods by Azn-beast plz read if u need help! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- today i'm not here to gloat about my stats.I'm here to help ppl who need help in mr2 monster raising.let's start off...everyday there are some jabronis(fakes) who talk about their stats being high but guess what those ppl can't even their raising method(obviously they are lying).To prove my high stats,here is my essay on my raising method:1.First of,when your monster is less than a year old do the following: Two light drills,rest,two light drills,rest..just repat until it is more than a year old. (Why don't i use three drills coz my monsters usually get stressed out using three light drills.But there are monsters which can withstand three light drills without getting stressed out.) Also don't enter any battles until it is more than a year old.Note:If your monster gets spoiled just give it a smoked snake and smoked snakes do not decrease lifespan!
2.Ok,now your monster is more than a year old hurray!Do the following: One heavy drill,two light drills,rest,rest,one heavy drill drill,two light drills and rest. After this,join a tourny to relieve stress..then repeat the cycle.You may ask why don't i just repeat the cycle without joining a battle.The answer is plain and simple it will get stressed out!Also u might ask,why won't i use two heavy drills coz your monster will get stressed out easily if u send it on two heavy drills!One of the major factors of the monster's lifespan is the stress factor(remember that).
3.Also feed your monsters mangos after every battle and this keeps your monster happy.Note:it is very important to keep your monster happy by giving whatever items your monster ask for!I know there are some ppl who have heard that giving your monster loads of items will decrease it's lifespan,right?Well,it is all false info.Giving items to your monster doesn't.At last here is a equation i developed.Happy monsters+ items it wants=Longer lifespan!
4:You all might ask'Hey dude what about the errantries?My tip is go to errantries to get moves with like c-force,hit-s.Accurate and powerful moves preferbaly!In my kato raising i sent him to 3 ski and 1 def errantry.
5:Lastly u all can customise the tip nimber 2 by putting errantries in between.Note:only send your monster only when it is more than a year old!Also,don't send your monsters on too many errantries.I suggest four at a minimum.More errantries=shorter lifespan.
6:Also,you might ask'Why is this jabroni giving us his raising method does he have a catch or sumthin'?Yes,I have a catch that is to credit me in this raising method if it is successful and also spread the word of my raising method to other ppl if u ppl like it that is.
7:Also i have raised two ninja katos,a second generation kato and a phoenix with this method.(Currently i'm raising a second gen tombstone with stats lif and def=250,ski=449,int=417,pow=150) First ninja kato lived for 8years5months stats are: Lif=545 Pow=150 Spd=999 int=999 ski=999 def=390
Second ninja kato(lived for 8years11months) Lif=672 Pow=152 Int=999 Spd=999 ski=999 def=473
Note:The only difference my second ninja kato is it got more items i mean the items it ask for that is!
Kato named clawz lived for 9years4months
Lif=999 def=999 spd=999 def=908 pow=195 int=999
Lastly my phoenix lived for 7years10months Lif=701 pow=100+ Int=951 spd=918 ski=930 def=395
The usage of golden peaches and silver peaches:only use them when your monsters peak is going down!
Also i usually raise one rank per year.Here are my limits to going to each rank.
Go to d-rank when 3 stas over 250(three stats like pow/int,ski,def/spd)
Go to c-rank when three stats over 350
Go to b-rank when stats are over 450
Go to a-rank when stats are over 650
Lastly go to s-rank when three stats over 750!
Here at the bottom are optionals tips which helped me too.There are: Use mint leaves before they get stressed out.Like check the first month whether get stressed out.IF they do,reset the game and give it a mint leaf before the first week of the month. And u will all see that the stressed out message doesn't appear on the 1st week of the month anymore.You can also feed your monsters apple cakes on it's birthday to make it happy.Therefore.maybe expanding your monster's life span but this will cause your monsters to become fat so use a powder next week!Also i usually stay in the b-class for more than three years.Cause the b-class battles are usually on the 2nd week of each month or rarely the b-class battles are on the 4th week of a month.So,this is perfect for the heavy drill,two light drill ,rest method.Imagine once u finished a b-class tourny in the 2nd week/After a giving it a mango and resting,your monster will be on very well right.Ok,just follow my method i mentioned in number 2.Then,use a mint lieaf and od a heavy drill then rest.The,you'll enter a b-class battle at the 2nd week to relieve stress.If the next tourny of the b-class in on the forth week.Then ,do one heavy drill,two light drills,rest,rest,two heavy drills ,then u will be ready for the b-class tourny.Reseting is part of the game which will gain u high stats(no it is not cheating).Sometimes,i reset the games five times to get great in my drills only when the monsters like the drill.NOTE:When the monster likes a certain drill,the chances of it getting great in that drill is higher.Also punish your monsters whenever they cheat a lot .Note:about evil monsters silver henger told me not to punish a monster when it's nature is evil coz it will shorten it's lifespan.This tip is goes to silver henger.THanks silver henger!
At last,this is what i have to say.From my research i found that monsters will do great more in drills when they are happy!!!!!Thanks for listening.Any questions just ask me.I hope the azn-beast method works for u all
-- Azn-beast (galrepellent@hotmail.com), January 04, 2000Answers
I hope this method is more clear than the last one.Oh yeah post your stats here if u use my method on your monsters
-- Azn-beast (galrepellent@hotmail.com), January 04, 2000.wow beast, and by the way, thank's for letting me use your chat. by the way, have you heard any new's about fade's chat?
-- legendary master moo (homer@usaserve.com), January 04, 2000.you don't know fade's has been for this past few days,moo!Go there!
-- Azn-beast (galrepellent@hotmail.com), January 04, 2000.Hmm... "Clawz" (your kato) has some very suspicious stats, 999 defence and over 100+ power? A Kato's power is raised much easiar than its defense is, yet you got its defence maxed and yet its power stays in the "shit" section?Azn, your stratagy seems to be little more than a combination of RNA and Wildcards breeding methods. Hell, its a virtual copy. You took the best parts of both their threads and wrote it in as being your own.
wait, i want to try this it seems very fun: *ahem*
Ok I been hearing all you people with your breeding stratagies and I've got my own. You raise your monster through each phase, in phase one you'll feed it milk for the first three months and work skill. This is because skill is the hardest to raise later on (no hard drill for it). After about 6 mons (roughly half way through phase 1) switch to heavy,heavy,light,light (ML,ML,NO,ML).
When you notice a small increase in stat gain immediaty battle at every chance you get giving your monster nuts oil everyday to prevent any fatigue. By now your monster should be about a year and a half and have all but 3 of its stats maxed. So work and reset until you get GREAT on everthing. I did this with my ghost and here are his stats :
999lif, 999power, 150int, 128skill, 210speed, and 999defense
you can CLEARLY see that I worked all of the best stats for the ghost, working his power and defense. This proves that I am the best trainer even though I have yet to prove a damn thing I've said and much better results have been found by people who have read neither RNA nor Wildcards methods. Dahhhh.... Why I Outta Motta Cotta Watta
-- Nocturne (aka_cp@hotmail.com), January 04, 2000.Ha! My Mechazilla (Dragon/Henger) was perfect in every catagory and new all the moves (I checked). No Gameshark was used. It took me nine years (gametime)to do it. Top that!
-- Francisco Rodriguez (amrodrig@flash.net), January 04, 2000.mine was 13 points better and made up a new move.
-- torey luvullo (dst10000@compuserve.com), January 04, 2000.spamming me will get u no where...lol..you're going to get it
-- Azn-beast (galrepellent@hotmail.com), January 04, 2000.Obviously it is not a combination did rna or wildcard talk about a monster's happinness,I didn't talk about nuts oil.I mean my guide is totally different.Hey,rna and wildcard plz back me up!
-- Azn-beast (galrepellent@hotmail.com), January 04, 2000.the stats seem too good to be true but not impossible. In a 3 year period i can usually max one stat out and get 800+ in another. in nine years(kudos by the way) it would be somewhat easy to get that many maxed and possibly moreespecially if it was a 3rd or 4th generation.
-- Zuumsaurian (b_hagstrom@hotmail.com), January 04, 2000.spammers just hate them...
-- Azn-beast (galrepellent@hotmail.com), January 04, 2000.I thought HIS stategy was completely oringinal and it worked quite well actually. So all the people making fun of him,shut the f*c* up!
-- Infinite Joker (musicalityl@eartlink.net), January 04, 2000.Well, seeing as there are a few of you who like to play badmouth, I may as well step in myself. I don't understand what some of you guys believe gives you the right to criticize Beast's method.. I'm pretty sure it helped a lot of people out. I'm also sure there are people out there which don't find Beast's to their liking. If it worked, then good for you; if it didn't, there's no need to go off and blow your damn top off.. I conclude that when someone does decide to open their mouth about it, one of two possibilities may be the cause: One, the person is ignorant and doesn't bother to regard the fact that Azn-beast even created his own breeding method for the benefit of other fellow ranchers.. or two, the person must have had some long object driven up their ass and have decided to take it out on the first person they see. By the way, I happen to use Beast's method of raising and I'm doing great.. Ask my Gooji with stats: 602-823-241- 408-381-492 (lif,pow,int,ski,spd,def) who is still kicking after 6 yr 2 mo old.
-- Jesus El Christo (JMasangkay@yahoo.com), January 04, 2000.Oops.. made a mistake.. his skill is supposed to be 480, not 408.
-- Jesus El Christo (JMasangkay@yahoo.com), January 04, 2000.How did you get your monster to live so long? Following your method precisely(even the resetting for greats) I could get not get my Ninja Kato to live beyond 6 years. Even though it was "Happy". And what do you mean by "Happy" anyway? i always thought it meant low stress, but thats just me. I think your lying...
-- Endoplasmic Reticulum (Endoplasmic Reticulum@cell.nuc), January 04, 2000.Thanks for the support jesus and infinite jokers.Remember i said i hope this method works for u(i didn't say it will work for u).So,some of u ppl don't need to blast words at me.I'm just providing an option to wildcard's and rna's(I never said i was the best).If u want to read it ok,if u don't that's fine with me.I'm just trying to share my experience in monster raising to all u ppl.I was not easy to write a guide i took really a lot of time and research to write this.Guides just don't pop out thin u know(rna should understand this:).For those of u like jesus,tigermonol i congratulate as you liked my method and had fun with it.Thanks for listening.Blasting out foul words at a person is so immature:(
-- Azn-beast (galrepellent@hotmail.com), January 04, 2000.I know for a fact that Azn-beast did not use a modified version of my raising method. I posted mine AFTER his came up so it would be impossible to do so.I believe that there is a method out there that is THE best/efficient in terms of high stats. This meaning that almost EVERY person playing this game for a long long time will eventually arrive at that method (or a close version of it) if he/she wants to go for the best stats possible for his/her monster.
My personal raising method evolved from really sucky(monster lives for 2 years max), to a version close to that of wildcard's(fights ALOT - also my first monster to beat legends cup), to a version close to azn-beast's(more and more refinements to make my method better), to the one I am using now. All this without reading about any methods on any message board - took me a long time though.
Wildcard's, Azn-beast's, and my method help players skip ALOT of game time to figure this out. Some will think it takes out the fun of raising by following other's methods. However, if I were a beginner, I would like a guide to help me. Anyone here use faqs? I use them now and then, especially if I want to find every single item in an rpg, etc. These methods are like faqs/guides.
In my opinion(no offense), I think the order(low = 1, high = 3) at which these 3 methods rank in terms of high stats are 1) Wildcard's (gets a beginner into a good monster rancher quickly), 2) Azn-beast's (uses many different mechanics to refine the monster), 3) RNA's[mine] (purpose, although not perfected yet, is to maximize the full capabilities of a monster so that it can do equal/better than any other monster raised with another method - in terms of high stats).
I bet nobody has thought that paradoxine(info courtesy of dark phoenix) would ever prove useful, right? If used with a wracky, you can max out POW and SKI before leaving its baby stage! In depth mechanics like these are required to get THE best method for those results.
So which method is better? None! They are all equal. If you want high stats as done with my method, you'll have to compromise alot of things such as fun and reload time. If you want fun as seen in wildcard's method, you'll have to compromise stats and lifespan. Azn- beast's method is in about the same category as my method, but his method is easier to understand(ie, you don't have to worry about details and stuff).
So, as a monster rancher, you can choose to use these methods or not. You don't need to stick with them, just get the points you like best and use them in your own method. Reading these methods will give you insight into ideas and concepts that you may not have known about before.
-- RNA (RNA@Ribosome.nuc), January 05, 2000.I raised a gooji before. My first monster to breach the 4000pt barrier. They kick butt.
-- RNA (RNA@Ribosome.nuc), January 05, 2000.hehe..u think i'm lying nope i'm not.'Happy' is my theory it has nothin to with the stress factor.Well,i never said your monster will have the same lifespan as mine does.I said i never said.Happy in terms of giving u monster stuff(Read my guide properly before u blast out question).Since you didn't read it properly,I'll tell u again that is I found that giving your monster mangoes and items it wants makes it happy!So,i found out by doing this it kinda did more greats in drills!Yeah,thanks for the support rna
-- Azn-beast (galrepellent@hotmail.com), January 05, 2000.I personally don't care much for hard drills I do use his first year method though. As for a happy monster It depends on spoiled factor If giving an item might make my monster soft I won't give it. I don't completely disagree with anyones method. I use bits of them all to make my own. These people aren't trying to tell you what to do, just telling you what THEY do. Except for the mangos Beasts method seems easier on the budget for the beginning trainer.
-- tjmax (tjmax@tnweb.com), January 05, 2000.I did read your method very carfully, I read both this one and your old to see if you left out anything in the transition. I gave my Ninja Kato mangos after battles and gave it everything it wanted, but mine didn't live that long, I'll try again though and see what happens, this time i'll read it more carefully...
-- Endoplasmic Reticulum (Endoplasmic Reticulum@cell.nuc), January 05, 2000.Spammer - a person who repeatly performs an actionhow the hell did I spam when I said one thing?
But now that you mention it, yes I will spam ya; you'll get mail from "Vertigo2E@hotmail.com"; you may spam it if you like too, knoc yourself out. Its a ghost acct.
-- Damnit, Satan is in my bushes again (aka_cp@hotmail.com), January 05, 2000.ALEX YOU IDIOT, GROW UP ALREADY!!!!
-- Link (Gr Jarkeld@Aol.Com), January 05, 2000.ALEX YOU IDIOT, GROW UP ALREADY!!!! melenium link out~
-- Link (Gr Jarkeld@Aol.Com), January 05, 2000.spam=stupid,pointless,annoying messages...
-- Azn-beast (galrepellent@hotmail.com), January 05, 2000.WTF????? that wasnt me!!!! ::sighs:: whoa, even im being impersonated! the real melenium link out~
-- Link (Gr Jarkeld@Aol.Com), January 06, 2000.strange! i ever raised ninja kato for 7 or 8 times to combine them with fire feather! (i don't have phoenix cd)it start the lif from 90 to 120 (depend on the season) your kato has a high intelegent, but it has high lif? how did you do that? ussualy my kato reach 999 int, 999ski, 999 spd when he is 3 and a half years with combinning RNA's method and my method, but it just reach 200 until 250 lif! (they was bonus poin from battle) and kato's speed is higher then the defense, how do you made the defense so big?
-- onomiba (abimono@mailcity.com), January 07, 2000.thats what I said above, a kato has really low defense and life; yet azn maxed both of them. He never got its power past about 150 (?) and that is raised with relative ease. Azn is just making this up; shame on you.
-- I swear shes 18 (aka_cp@hotmail.com), January 08, 2000.Anyone who thinks Azn-Beast is an a lyer is and idiot. My monsters always die at three years. My monsters have been living for 6 years + without peaches and therir stats were higher then I could ever get them. His stats are real.
-- NLS Gotenks (jksgoten@cs.com), January 08, 2000.nope i'm not man the guy with the hotmail aka cp@hotmail.com.First of all i'm not lying.U have heard ppl get 999 spd for their durahans rite.So why can't katos get 999 and def=908 if it sucks at it while durahan sucks at spd and it is possible to get 999.Then,i say i'm not lying.Remember my second gen kato got that lif=999 and def=908.The only reason i maxed out those stats coz i got 999 in my int,ski,spd immediately just after i still have 3 months of peak traning left.It happenned when it was around 5y5months.So i kept training on def and lif until my monster was 9yrs4months.It had stats gain of heavy drill def=12 points,lif=8 to 10,Not only that i was in the s-rank so i earned some lif and def points as well in the process.Well,That's how i got my def and lif up so high.It took me 4years to do that.Well,it is possible like me if you kato still have 4 years left while already maxing out int,ski,spd.So,aka cp@hotmail.com if u don't buy my method stop posting here you immature individual.Hope that tells u how my kato got so incredible,onimimba!.Also my kato was getting great in drills more frequently gaining 15+ in a def heavy and 10+ in a lif drill.
-- Azn-beast (galrepellent@hotmail.com), January 08, 2000.sorry i made a mistake in my raising guide it is suppose to be hard drill,two light drills,rest(not rest,rest)!:)
-- Azn-beast (galrepellent@hotmail.com), January 08, 2000.If you have such proof of stats, take a picture and scan it; then post it. I'll help you out with the HTML if you don't know it
-- Corrosion (aka_cp@hotmail.com), January 08, 2000.obviuosly if my stats are not genuine why would i post them.....I even compiled this guide based on my experience.....As long as many ppl use my method is happy with it...then i'm satisfied...I don't hafta prove anything to ya...First,i wouldn't lie.Second ppl believe in method and love it,Thirdly,many ppl have thanked me for my knowledge on mr2.Lastly,in every apple tree there is one rotten apple.I mean out of 10 ppl they would be at least 2 or 3 ppl who will always question me.I'll answer these ppl but if they are not convinced they can just go away.If u don't support my method,then stop posting to my topic with your pointless questions..I only listen to logic not rubbish..And why do ya always bother me,go to someone else blast away your pointless questions at them!I have no time for this.....I only answer questions related to my guide.So for the last time go away aka cp@hotmail.com.
-- Azn-beast (galrepellent@hotmail.com), January 09, 2000.For all you "Happiness" non-believers, i can back Azn up on this. Colt may not specifically tell you you're monster is happy, but giving it the items it wants and a prize for winning a tourney will make you're monster happy. This worked in MR1, and works in MR2.Just try it for yourself. Save the a game in 2 slots and play off the first one. Log everything(yes,everything,drills,rest,items used,battles,etc.) you're monster does and raise the monster through its life with no wanted items/prizes. Note how long it lives and save the game in its slot.
Next, load up the slot you didnt use. Follow you're log exactly except give it prizes and all the items it wants. Eventually, you wont have a log to follow because you're monster has outlived the other. If you haven't done this yourself, do so at once and be amazed!
-- Spot (spot___@hotmail.com), January 09, 2000.I thought I'd throw in some random thoughts and things: I haven't tried a ninja kato with this method (yet) as I don't have the needed cd, but...nobody who has tried it (except Azn-beast) has done quite as well as he (at least thats posted anything I've seen). I make no claims as to the reason for this, just an observation. As RNA said, any method that works will have certain similarities with others, I don't feel "copied". Other monster whose stats have been posted have also been nowhere near those Azn-beast reports (again no acusations intended or implied), HOWEVER they have been much better than those you could get using an "average" breeding method, giving a pretty decent combination of stats and lifespan (although nowhere near the lifespan you could get from RNA's method, or one that incorporates nuts oil, light drills and minimal battles, but everything is a sacrifice). I don't have a lot of experience with "happiness", I tend not to give my monsters stuff due to spoilty, but it does seem that it has some effect on lifespan, (+25% is my gut reaction based on the results posted, although thats by no means scientific. So, to recap. is it a good method? It seems so, enough people have raised laudible beasties using it. Is it as good as Azn-beast claims? I have to admit, I am skeptical. as I would be of ANY technique until I tried it myself. Part of that is the reseting (even if it's only for 'liked' drills), it's not really my style. But until I can lay my hands on a ninja kato I'm willing to give Azn-beast the benifit of the doubt, as should anybody who hasn't actually tried it. Even then, any discrepancy is not necisarily dishonesty on his part, he could have been lucky, there could be something about the order in which he raised the stats, the exact times of his erentries, a peach he forgot to mention (or you failed to include), etc. Botom line, until you've tried it: question, but don't criticize to the point of an attack. and if you have tried it, try to keep your criticizms focused on the method and not the character of the originator.P.S. apropos of nothing, I tend to agree that nothing in this thread fits the definition of "spam", although there are a few 'flames' perhaps...
-- WildCard (rincewind@uswest.net), January 11, 2000.thanks for support wildcard i guess.....I already stated the usage of peaches in my guide.Yep i did use guides..well i found that hapinness does improve lifespan.For example,I raised a phoenix without giving it mangoes i didn't give the items it likes too.Then,i raised another phoenix without giving it the items it likes but i gave it mangoes after every battle.You see both of them were raise in the same style (like same number of errantries,both got golden peaches), but one of them had mangoes.The end result the first phoenix lived for 6yrs9months and the second lived for 7yrs1month.That gave the conclusion of happiness bring out longer life...
-- Azn-beast (galrepellent@hotmail.com), January 11, 2000.hey the last message i said Yep i did use guides oops it was a typo it was suppose to be i did use peaches
-- Azn-beast (galrepellent@hotmail.com), January 11, 2000.Yay this is one of the things i forgot to include about spoiling a monster and giving it a smoked snake at the right time If it become spoiled jus use a smoked snake.Ok i did it this way,when my monsters loyalty go to 90+ it's style is even.I keep giving him the items he wants .Eventually loyalty will become below 90 and style will change to soft.Here ,is the time to use it-use it when the loyalty drop to 85.After giving it a smoked snake your monster's loaylty will go to 90 to the style even.If u give your monster a smoked snake when the loyalty is more than 85 let's say 86,your style will become strict.So,give it a smoked snake when it's loyalty drops from 90+ to 85.Hope that helps.
-- Azn-beast (galrepellent@hotmail.com), January 11, 2000.Hey now, beast's method aint too shabby. I raise Gali's nonstop because i a freak about them and ive never gotten them to live past 3 yrs 8 months. I used beasts method and got one to live 5 yrs 2 months without golden or silver paeches and he was 1st generation. Unfourtuantly im still not very good and he was only able to beat A class and half way win S. He has now been combined with my old Fanged mask(Gali/Tiger) and his starting stats were: Lif-95 Pow-121 Int-278 Ski-219 Spd-152mDef-103. Hopefully with these starting stats i have(the best ive ever had muahahahaha) i can get to and beat S class at least. Thnx for the help beast. Helped ALOT.
-- The Joker (mandm@aeroinc.net), January 15, 2000.No problem joker glad to help ya!
-- Azn-beast (galrepellent@hotmail.com), January 15, 2000.About the "happiness" mangos provide. Did you know that mangos heal a small amount of fatigue? About 1/4 as much as Nuts Oil in fact.
-- Dark Phoenix (Arax7@aol.com), January 16, 2000.YES!!!! My Fanged mask(Gali/Tiger) that is from a 2nd Gen fanged mask and a1st gen gali has succedded in beating all 4 of the M4!! And im now a Master Trainer WOOOHOOO!!! He lived to the ripe old age of 5yr 9 mon with beast's method. his stats were: Lif 175 Pow: 155 Int: 999 Ski: 600 Spd: 735 Def: 88 Unfourtunty he couldnt hold out til the Legends Cup....alas...but he shall live again! Just as soon as i finish this new gali hehe. This leads me to another question...im master rank....but i still cant open all of my disks...it says im not an official IMa trainer yet..how do i get that? The Legends Cup? Thnx for your method beast i use it all the time now and it works great for me specailly with galis...damnit i want a joker so damn bad...lol i thought id be able to get on but sstupid shrine woman wont let me. If you know anything about that plz tell me
-- The Joker (mandm@aeroinc.net), January 16, 2000.That means u haven't unlocked the monster for e.g durahan,phoenix etc.It has nothin to do with your rank.Glad to see that u like my method joker!I thought my method would have collected cob-webs by now lol
-- Azn-beast (galrepellent@hotmail.com), January 16, 2000.I am posting this to back up Azn-beast's method. I used his method on my first Durahan, a purebred, and so far it has lived for 6 years, 8 months, with a golden peach. It will probably make it to the Legends Cup. It stats are: 452 Life, 999 Power, 87 Int, 901 Skill, 88 Speed, and 851 Defense. It won all of the major four and brought my rank from 4 to Master. Good job Azn-Beast!!
-- DurahanMan (id666@hotmail.com), January 16, 2000.I'm not sure how this one will show up.
-- The Man (djedmond@@pinenet.com), April 12, 2000
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