Who was it that pissed Lady Logic off? It's too quiet today, and not the same without her. Laura, don't let those creeps get your goat. Please come back soon. We're drowning in four-letter words from people jerking themselves and each other off like adolescents. Come back and twist their heads with finesse.

-- bored (boredas@expletive.deleted), April 08, 2000

Answers

Hawk. Evidently, it is difficult to compete with the genius of the "ant hill kicking faction". Or so I heard. On another note, she may have an off-forum life.

Best wishes,,,,

-- Z1X4Y7 (Z1X4Y7@aol.com), April 08, 2000.

I'm certainly guilty. I disagreed with her on the Debunker forum several months ago, defended everyone having a clean slate on this forum, but I STILL found myself being accused of posting things under a pseudonym against her. She asked that I not read her posts and I don't.

-- Anita (Anita_S3@hotmail.com), April 08, 2000.

Old Novice:

I wouldn't worry to much. Laura will forgive you tomorrow.

Best wishes,,,,

Z

-- Z1X4Y7 (Z1X4Y7@aol.com), April 08, 2000.

bored (is that you again, Laura?),

Who gives a rip? Good riddance...at least for today.

-- Still Loony (after all@these.years), April 08, 2000.

Oh Anita, stop with both the mea culpas and the whimpering. You, Malcolm & Latimer have always been welcome in both camps and for good reason. PS: Turned out to be Austin instead of DFW. Maybe next time.

-- Carlos (riffraff@cybertime.net), April 08, 2000.

Carlos:

You hadn't heard that Jonathan was banned from the EZBOARD forum before he ever even tried posting there?

-- Anita (Anita_S3@hotmail.com), April 08, 2000.

Anita, Yeah I know bout JL & EZ. But, that's a house game as is this. Rules are different wherever you go. Invite him to MSN chat again. Malcolm is missed here and there as well.

-- Carlos (riffraff@cybertime.net), April 08, 2000.

Z,

I agree with your post on the last thread. The "lime" color is VERY ANNOYING, *PLEASE* stop using it.

Frank

P.S. I guess this shows my life isn't too bad right now, as this is apparently my biggest concern...

-- Someone (ChimingIn@twocents.cam), April 08, 2000.

Laura, please don't run off and leave without me. They are burying me in roadside shrines!!!!

-- gilda (jess@listbot.com), April 09, 2000.

Haven't heard much from LadyLogic lately. Is she still "entertaining" that 17 year old?

-- questor (questor@where.areyou), April 10, 2000.

She is with me and we have at last found our true soul mates. Oh how I love the lady.

-- Manny (No@dip.com), April 10, 2000.

Psssst, Manny!

I know she used to ADORE you, but haven't you heard? She is going to marrry that man who flushed peoples heads in toilets.

-- (Let @ it .go now), April 11, 2000.

ROFLMAO!! STICK YOUR HEAD IN A TOILET AND FLUSH!!! AND FLUSH AGAIN!!! AGAIN!!! BWAHAHAHAHA!!!! AND AGAIN!!! Yeah, that St. Louis Louis BDSM guy was really funny. They will be very happy together.

-- (those were@the.days), April 11, 2000.

Louis will be wearing a polyurethane tuxedo and carrying a cat o' nine tails as he whips Laura crawling up the aisle on her knees, wearing only a leather hood, a ball gag, and a spiked dog collar. It will be a scream.

-- (Count Dracula@nite.bats), April 11, 2000.

Carlos,

Thanks for the kind thoughts. I've been away on a car rally for the past 5 days, but back at the keyboard now. I've tried the chat room on a number of ocassions, but there is never anyone there. :-)

-- Malcolm Taylor (taylorm@es.co.nz), April 11, 2000.

Is this Louis guy really an S&M type? If so, is he really Mr. Polly? Good luck LadyLogic unless you dig that stuff too. Bizarre, to say the least. Manny, you had better move fast to save her soul.

-- kinko (kinko@wierdos.togo), April 11, 2000.

If you guys think I'd ever let anyone hurt or humiliate me, you're out of your minds.

OBVIOUSLY, there are people here who don't know me, or Mr Polly.

This conversation is so sick I'm not going to engage in it any further.

~*~

-- (Ladylogic@...), April 11, 2000.

Yeah, that makes sense....

Why let others humiliate you when you do it so well yourself, eh?

HA HA HA HA HA HA

-- HA HA HA HA HA HA (HA@HA.HA), April 12, 2000.

Posted by (24.217.26.182) Mr Polly on January 11, 2000 at 20:41:27:

In Reply to: Re:Ladylogic on January 11, 2000 at 20:01:34:

You WILL succeed if you follow my direction, Lady Logic. I've often found that as time goes by, one simply needs something to re-direct one's focus upon. Would a strong...firm yet loving, guiding hand help?

Maybe some training is in order...mix in reward and punishment as consequences of your actions in weaning yourself from the TB2000 crowd. Lets say...for instance....doing something nice for yourself for going the whole day without responding to them...and...say....a spanking for every time you do.....sound like fun?

Most of all....you need something to focus on....that will be your guiding light and provide loving, yet firm, no nonsense direction out of the pit that is TB2000 and the people that inhabit that haunt....a strong yet gentle....loving yet firm....hand is what you need....you WILL make it

-- (Louis@S&M.com), April 13, 2000.

-- geez! (some@ss.holes), April 13, 2000.

Does Lady Logic post here anymore? I see something from April 11, but today's the 14th. I guess being "in love" does amazing things. Too bad most people wreck it by getting married.

-- bachelor (bachelor@keepinglove.alive), April 14, 2000.

Bachelor,

Marriage (IMHO) doesn't wreck a relationship; it enhances it. I can love a man a whole lot, but until we make that legal commitment, I will always hold back.

Personally,

I have the ability to love.............................................

unconditionally.

(So does Mr Polly.)

I can love someone................................................... .

to the depths of my soul.

Why would I give that part of me....................................... ......................

to a man.............................................

who isn't willing to do the same?

How is that willingness demonstrated? Can giving someone money demonstrate it?

No.

Can screwing someone's brains out demonstrate it?

No.

Can a combination of those two --

and a legal,

and moral,

and spiritual,

comittment demonstrate it?

Heck, yes!

Marriage is the only way.............................

I can show Mr Polly,

and he can show me,

that we intend to work everything out together....................

to walk through life unafraid,

of what will happen tomorrow;

because we know one things for certain.......................................

the other will be there.

I'll give myself to him,

in every way humanly imaginable....

and he's promised to do the same.

We're looking in the same direction,

and all good things in life seem possible now.

But, it's that piece of paper.....................................

................................that makes him my man,...................

that makes him my companion,

...................that makes him my husband.........................

that makes me his wife........................................(I LOVE that word: Wife.)

No, Bachelor, marriage doesn't diminish a relationship, it allows it to be nutured, to grow, and let's two people love each other unconditionally.

Of course, if you're happy being a bachelor; carry on! ;o)

~*~

-- (Ladylogic@...), April 14, 2000.

Ladylogic,

Marriage doesn't always change a relationship for the worse, but it often does. Men and women view many things differently. Marriage is natural and beneficial for women, unless the guy is a jerk. It may or may not be so for a man. I've been married a couple of times, and "para-married" several others. I must honestly say that the best times were over soon after marriage. I'm happy for you and all those happily married people. Just don't think that it always makes a relationship better. From the perspective of many men, it doesn't. But, since they love their wife and family, they "adjust" and stick it out, at least until the kids are grown. If you would like to learn something about the "whys" of men's attitudes about a lot of things, read Warren Farrell's book "Why Men Are The Way They Are". I love you ladies, maybe too much, but don't try to tell me that marriage enhances a relationship for men. For some it does, for a lot more it doesn't. As Warren Farrell says, marriage is the fulfillment of a woman's dreams, and the end of a man's.

Best of Luck

-- Bachelor (bachelor@keepinglove.alive), April 14, 2000.

Bach,

You said, "It may or may not be so for a man." Statistically, men who are married DO live longer, but I guess whether or not that's a GOOD thing depends on the marriage...

Frank

-- Someone (ChimingIn@twocents.cam), April 14, 2000.

Bachelor,

As a man, I KNOW the fact is real simple. Most guys who don't want to marry just want to keep their options open in case someone better or better looking comes along. That way, as the years go by, and his wife's looks fade, and his ego bothers him as HIS looks fade, he gets to easily indulge his vanity by dumping his wife for some firmer bodied twenty something half his age without the trama and cost of a divorce. Real simple and selfish and shallow -- period. Of course, it works the same for the "climbers" on the female side too. Basically the "always looking for a better deal" character trait knows no gender boundary.

All the talk about marriage diminishing his happiness is really just a cover for marriage revealing the shallowness of one's character.

Just admit you're an opportunistic jerk looking for the best Ms. Right Now until Ms Better comes along.

I just hope the decent women don't let their heart lull them into settling for someone who will "trade them in" for a "newer model" like a used car. Hey, to each their own. It's just too bad too many women go for it -- and too bad so many men are so shallow and lacking in character. Too bad the "better dealer" types never realize that if they just cultivated the "deal" they HAVE in their current spouse, that deep love for each other can not only conquer anything -- but give them the deepest contentment and satisfaction they are capable of knowing -- which they simply won't find if the have one half of their heart focused on their Ms OK for right now -- but have the other half of their heart always looking for something better, or newer or more novel -- because they lack the ability or desire or both to fully, deeply commune and connect with another human being -- heart to heart, soul to soul -- and every other way that makes life together so wonderful for the "till death do we part" folks.

Maybe some of the guys having their mid life crises' will have the courage to face their fears and overcome their vanity -- and know a deeper pleasure with their wife whom they are devoted to heart and soul -- than their dick will ever know with someone half their age. But then, I guess we all have a different level of maturity, character and wisdom. Choices and capabilities. Some just don't have the capacity to understand what I've written -- those that do know the truth of my words. Doesn't matter to me what you think. I agree with Lady Logic 100%. Always have, always will. Wouldn't have it any other way.

BTW, don't bother telling me how great your character is or whatever rationalization you might use to con women or yourself. Actions speak louder than words ever will. Always have, always will.

-- Mr Polly (mrpolly@yahoo.com), April 14, 2000.

BTW,

For any of you sick people without a life who were wondering, I've not into S&M. Never have been, never will be. Not that it's any of your business mind you. Furthermore, FWIW, I would never, ever intentionally hurt or harm Laura in any way shape or form. In fact, just the idea makes me sick to my stomach. Fact is, what I AM going to do is this:

Love her and love her and love her and love her....

and love her and love her and love her and love her....

forever more.....no matter what....

And you know what? I couldn't care less what any of you people here think. I just know that my Laura....is walking away with ALL the goodies! Any troll post are just either folks who are jealous or wish they had the kind of life we will enjoy.

Good bye...have a nice life....if you can...or not! *sigh*

'nuff said.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!! :o)

-- Mr Polly (mrpolly@yahoo.com), April 14, 2000.

"ALL RIGHT, I'VE HAD IT!

I'm so sick of people complaining about my posts I could just throw up. It's gonna be REAL hard for me, but I'm not gonna post ANYTHING for a week, and I'll decide at that time if I EVER want to post anything again.

-- (Ladylogic@...), April 07, 2000."

Okay, it's been a week, you can come back now, but please, try to keep that diarrhea of the mouth problem under control, will ya?

-- (pepto-bismol@anyone.?), April 14, 2000.

Mr Polly,

Take it easy. Relax. Take a Valium.

Apparently I pushed one of Laura's buttons, and she in turn pushed one of mine. My reaction apparently pushed ALL of yours.

I and most others here wish you and Laura only happiness. Because you likely will not have the necessity of raising children, your marriage will have pleanty of time and space to keep romance alive.

You have badly misinterpreted who and what I am, and have gone off on a rant based on very little information. You accuse me of being "an opportunistic jerk looking for the best Ms. Right Now until Ms. Better come along". On what basis do you make such a judgement? Actually, I think that I probably have a number of gold stars next to my name in the Book at the Pearly Gates, and would likely get pre-boarded ahead of you if we were to arrive at the same time. You're making rash judgements on precious little evidence.

I am a nice, solid, stable kind of guy who has spent a lot of time and money and emotional energy raising several other people's children. Unfortunately it was not easy, and not something that I would recommend that anyone else try, unless the children are very young and the spouse is truly supportive of your role as a parent.

One thing that I consistently experienced, however, was what I call the "what you see is not what you get" phenomena. On the other hand, I am pretty much who I appear to be and the women in my life get pretty much what they start with. The problem is that I don't appreciate attempts to reprogram me to fit someone else's idea of who and what I should be after marriage.

It's a proven fact that counsellors time and again observe that the things that women complain about are things that their men did or didn't do BEFORE marriage. What they are complaining about is the fact that their husbands didn't respond to their reprogramming efforts after marriage. They accepted his flaws, believing that they could change him after marriage. On the other hand, most of the complaints that men make to counsellors involve new attitudes and behaviors that their wives manifested AFTER marriage.

I'm serious about recommending the Warren Farrell book for both men and women as a tool in better understanding men. He doesn't have all the answers, but his ideas are thought-provoking.

I am still friends with many of the ex-ladies of my life. I care about them, but am glad that I no longer have to live with them and experience their continued attempts to force me into their molds. I look forward to the possiblity of finding a soul-mate, but hold no high expectations any more of it happening. In the meantime, I will continue to enjoy life as I search.

Next time don't be in such a haste to jump to conclusions and judge another so harshly on so little evidence. By doing so, you judge yourself. One final thought. Are your harsh judgements in any a reflection of some part of yourself, perhaps in the past? The venom with which you attack makes one wonder.

-- Bachelor (bachelor@keeping.lovealive), April 14, 2000.

Hi, Mr Bachelor,

I'd love to discuss what you just said, but I don't want to do it here. I don't want to answer two threads on the same subject so I'm going to cut and paste our responses on a new one. The other reason I have to do this is because Mr Polly doesn't read this site, and I haven't had time to tell him this conversation is going on in another thread.

I hope you don't mind?

~*~

-- (Ladylogic@...), April 14, 2000.