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It was a real life-and-death situation between us,” passenger Chris Honochick said this morning on ABCs Good Morning America.

Flight 259 was traveling from Puerto Vallarta, Mexico, to Portland, Ore., via San Francisco. Police say the jet was just short of San Francisco when 40-year-old Peter Bradley of Blue Springs, Mo., became agitated, switched seats and took off his socks and his shirt.

"He walked down with his shirt off to the front," said Honochick, who eventually helped tackle Bradley. The stewardess started to stop him from going back and forth tried to calm him down.

At one point, Bradley said, It.s not what's on the floor, it's not the love you lost, another passenger said.

Bradley eventually sat in first class, where he made this threat: "I'm going to kill all of you; keep away from me, while simulating the shape of a gun with his hand," according to San Francisco Police Officer Joe Reilly.

Shortly after, Bradley, who is more than 6 feet tall and weighs more than 250 pounds, made a run for the cockpit and briefly grabbed hold of the controls before the crew and five to seven passengers were able to tackle him to the ground, police said. At the time, the plane was flying near Monterey, 115 miles south of San Francisco.

"I grabbed him around his neck, two other guys grabbed in the front pulled him down and we had two other guys that took care of him as far as subduing him," Honochick said.

Bradley was bound with plastic restraints. He was taken into custody once the plane landed safely on the ground at 7:50 p.m. PT.

"The crew and the passengers acted heroically and they averted a tremendous disaster," Reilly said.

"Fortunately all the guys moved quick and he ain't dead and we're not dead," said passenger Robert Benjamin, 56, of West Linn, Ore., who helped restrain Bradley until landing. "I was scared to death."

"What really scared me was when he tried to open up an exit," said Honochick.

Bradley was released to federal custody after being treated at Mills-Peninsula Hospital for cuts and bruises, authorities said. He was later arraigned in San Francisco on federal charges of assaulting crew members and interfering with their duties.

Bradley did not enter a plea. Magistrate Bernard Zimmerman put off concluding the arraignment until he had more information.

"This was a rather puzzling and bizarre incident and without knowing why it happened, I have to be concerned that it may happen again," Zimmerman said.

Additional charges were pending, according to prosecutor Geoffrey Anderson.

Zimmerman said he could face up to 20 years in prison and a fine of $250,000 if convicted.

Police in Blue Springs and in neighboring Independence told The Associated Press they had no record of problems with Bradley other than two traffic violations in 1979, when he apparently moved to Blue Springs. Authorities were holding the aircraft, a McDonnell-Douglas MD-80, to inspect damage done to the cockpit door during Bradley's entry, and to interview passengers who were aboard the flight.

The plane was carrying 43 passengers and five crew members. No other injuries were reported.

Alaska Airlines Flight 261 from Puerto Vallarta to San Francisco crashed Jan. 31, off the Ventura County coast, killing all 88 people aboard. On Feb. 7, sparks flew from one of the engines of an Alaska Airlines flight that was leaving San Francisco after arriving from Puerto Vallarta. No one was injured in that incident.

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It's interesting that this is another MD-80 on the same route as the ill-fated AS 261. In fact I suspect that it was Flight 261 renumbered.

Just wondering if one of our irrational doomers has gotten impatient with the low crash rate and taken matters in hand. Has anyone seen any postings from Hawk or Squirrel Hunter since yesterday?

-- Mikey2k (, March 17, 2000




-- Laura (Ladylogic@...), March 17, 2000.


Yup. Sure sounds like something Hawk might do or say!

-- FutureShock (gray@matter.think), March 17, 2000.

Mikey, you're an asshole, plain and simple. Several times you've had sysops check other people's IP addresses because you suspected it was me, and you were dead WRONG every time. Even when I completely ignored your stupid ass remarks for over a month you continued to troll on my threads, shooting off your stupid mouth with inflammatory comments intended to provoke and insult me. You are a perfect example of the reason why most of the intelligent crowd has been forced to retreat to a password protected forum. Isn't it ironic that assholes like yourself are the ones who keep crying about wanting the freedom to speak your mind, but when anyone else does you insult them until they are forced to leave. I have never seen this article until now and I have no idea why you keep bringing up my name or what the hell you are talking about. Give it a rest you childish dipshit moron.

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), March 18, 2000.

BTW, nice job on the HTML dipshit, clearly you are far more intelligent than I. :-(

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), March 18, 2000.

If I received such a chewing out from someone who actually had some intelligence -- well I guess I'd go an blow my brains out. As it is, I'm ROFL.

"Once" is one time, "twice" is two times, and "several" must mean three or more times. I'll admit to asking the sysops about your IP address ONCE. If you can point to two more times than I'll admit you're correct but until then you're showing your unique grasp of facts.

Name one person who I've forced to leave.

What I find ironic is that you're allowed on the new forum and Flint isn't. Well, maybe it isn't so ironic.

And I do believe your statement that you don't understand why I related your name to the article. One of the few of your statements that is believable.

And I'm sure you never made an HTML mistake, right? Good to see you're still ignoring me.

-- Mikey2k (, March 18, 2000.

Go to hell asshole. Find someone else's shoes to stick to like the piece of shit that you are.

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), March 18, 2000.

No irony, mikey. The censors are simply working to prevent unauthorized opinions from confusing the congregation. The quality of discourse Hawk illustrates is just a lucky side effect.

-- Flint (, March 18, 2000.

Fuck off Flint.

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), March 18, 2000.


That language again. Your vocabulary is being progressively reduced to four letter words.

-- Jim Cooke (, March 18, 2000.


Usually, when he's reduced to that point he gives up and returns to rejoin his fellow smart people. The wonderful thing about being stupid is, you don't have what it takes to figure that out.

Sometimes, though, I think Hawk is a persona of a 13-year-old born to incompetent parents. It's a sobering thought.

-- Flint (, March 18, 2000.

Hawk, you're flying very low. Watch Out for that anthill.. AAAiiiiyeeeeee!!!

-- CJS (, March 18, 2000.


Or, how about being born to incompetent 13 year old parents? :^)

Using Hawk as an example, it's now clear to me why you were banned - just too many big words. Now, if you'd only use Hawk's witty reparte as an example for future postings, you might even be invited over there.

-- Jim Cooke (, March 18, 2000.

Jim and Flint,

I have had civil discourse with a Hawk on the subject of Global Warming. Though we disagreed he did not resort to the sort of conduct that he has shown lately.

I believe he is an intelligent young man who cannot at times control his passion and gets angry at himself when he realizes he has been wrong on something. He then loses control and blasts what he percieves as his enemies.


Only one person has never been wrong or made a mistake and I know this deep in my heart...I married her.

-- Chief (, March 18, 2000.

Four letter words or swearing doesn't bother me a bit; I'm not a Puritan. But the hateful text of Hawk's rant was uncalled for.

-- gilda (, March 18, 2000.

I just love it when someone upsets that poor guy Hawk. He likes to call people morons, dipshits, and other uncalled for names. He only does it when he's wrong and been shown to be transparent and phony. A child's world is awfully small when you have to play by yourself and I think lately he's found that out. Or is it called dishing it out but you can't take it!

-- Liberal Hater (, March 18, 2000.

My oh My-I thought this was just a good joke to start-Then Hawk came swooping down faster than a speeding bullett to start the illiterate response-

Hawk-Rule 62-"Don't take yourself so seriously"-We have to laugh at ourselves in life-Are you a Scorpio?? You are too serious for your own good?

Chief- too too funny-I guess you are happily married!

-- FutureShock (gray@matter.think), March 18, 2000.

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