Sepia/selenium split toning with Ilford Gallerie : LUSENET : B&W Photo - Printing & Finishing : One Thread

Anybody has any experience with split sepia and selenium toning with Ilford Gallerie? Any recommendations for dilutions and timings?

-- Jerry (, March 13, 2000


I can't get Ilford Galerie to tone well at all, let alone split tone. If anyone knows how to do this (with any paper and toner combination), I would love to hear about it.

-- (, March 14, 2000.

what is split toning?

-- Connie (, March 15, 2000.

Split toning is when the toner acts only on certain areas of the print--say, the middle or low values, while leaving the rest of the print with no color change. The old Agfa Portriga (particularly in the matte finish) would often turn a beautiful purple-brown in the low values, while the rest of the image would remain unchanged. This resulted in prints with much greater apparent "depth." Early prints by Keith Carter showed this effect, and they are highly prized.

-- (, March 16, 2000.

Jerry, I note that you also refer to sepia toning. My comments above were directed toward selenium. If you use sepia toner, you can bleach the print only part way, so that, when you redevelop, only the bleached parts of the print will have the sepia color. This will give a split tone effect, though in my experience it is often not very aesthetically pleasing.

-- (, March 16, 2000.

Split toning often (usually?) refers to the use of two toners, (often sepia and selenium) on one print, without masking. You could apply a light bleach to sepia the highlights, and selenium tone the rest. Sorry, I've never tried it with Gallerie.

-- Alan Gibson (, March 17, 2000.

Right Alan, thats what I thought split toning is. Anyway, tried split toning with Galerie just like you described and there seems to be only a slight darkening of the dmax areas after the selenium toner. Actually it is so slight that I am wondering if there is any effect at all. Tried to only selenium tone (no sepia this time) Galerie paper and find it very difficult to tone too. Anyone has similar experiences?

-- Jerry (, March 17, 2000.

Ed, if you go to Silverprints homepage and check out the black & white paper selection ( you'll find that they state that Forte Polygrade Warmtone "gives a very good split tone in selenium toner". I actually have this paper but by mistake I got a fixer with hardener so I don't want to use my selenium toner on it before I get a new fixer. When I do, I will post the result. By the way, the Silverprint home page is great, and so is their catalogue!

-- Peter Olsson (, March 20, 2000.

Though not a direct answer to your question regarding "split toning" of Ilford galerie,it was my impression "split toning " referred to the toning of one end or the other of the tonal range utilizing only 1 toner.The use of 2 different toners I thought referred to "dual toning".

-- Michael (, September 22, 2000.

FWIW, I use Gallerie occaisionally and have found that it tones a nice brownish-black with selenium, but you need a fairly strong dilution (I use 1:5 or so) and a longer time, sometimes up to 10-12 minutes. Hope this helps. ;^D)

-- Doremus Scudder (, September 23, 2000.

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