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Astounding news pre-empts what I had intended to write about next:

Dollar monetarization in Argentina - A part of the movement towards One World Currency one of the lynch pins of the NWO. I wished to discuss the good and the bad aspects.

Hopes pinned on the SPR The Strategic Petroleum Reserve And why it CANNOT solve the current oil crises.

Politics in the Oil Patch A global view of what is happening with OPEC and the possible inter-relationship of the close Bush involvement there and the upcoming American elections. This is not political advocacy but rather geo-political analysis. There is a similar Chechnyan relationship and situation with Russia.

There is another parallel curiosity here. Putnin, former head of KGB George Bush Sr., former head of CIA. Make of it what you will.

The CME (Coronal Mass Ejection) news this week. Even the heavens are amove, not only with the sun but also in other interesting ways. (Sorry about the crazy long link, but that is the way that I got it).

So many, many things. (Are you watching the stock market, derivatives, and the gasoline prices?) But, there is just too much to present and analyze, and far too much to ask anyone to read so I must pick and choose.

But all this has been pre-empted by news reports of yesterday and today. Probably not making your local media, I understand, but nevertheless of astounding importance.

I will give you the headlines, a couple of brief quotes, and the links, and you can read them yourself, if you like.

Number 1:

Wednesday, 8 March 2000 22:50 (ET)


LONDON, March 8 (UPI) -- Reports from a London-based think-tank say the Clinton administration may offer to slash America's nuclear arsenal and put anti-missile weapons on Russian soil if Moscow lifts a roadblock to the United States' proposed National Missile Defense system.

Not going to happen, but it is important to: Look at the source (UPI) when it was said (yesterday) and who originally made the statements (very credible people).

What this tells us, is not what it says, but who is saying it. I think that we can conclude: a. There is a highly perceived missile threat. b. The ABM is a foregone conclusion (it is going to be funded). c. The perceived threat is China (not named except as "other"). d. That the system cannot be deployed in time (even if it were of any use). e. This is about as close to getting to know what is actually going on, as we can get.

Now, Number 2:

The Times of India News Service


NEW DELHI: India and China both talked tough in the first-ever security dialogue which ended in Beijing late Tuesday. Despite known differences on the nuclear issue, ...

You have to read this for yourself and ask why it is that China is so very, very upset about India being in the nuclear club. Note the date. (Today.) I did not have this information yesterday when I wrote the article that some have scoffed at.

And Number 3:

Chinese Army Asked To Prepare For Taiwan War, As Leaders Talk Peace

BEIJING, Mar 8, 2000 -- (Agence France Presse) China's military has been asked to "prepare actively" for war with Taiwan, the army daily reported Wednesday, as top leaders kept up a verbal barrage mixed with talk of peace ahead of Taiwan's presidential elections.....

Again, look at the date. And the source. I had none of these three pieces available yesterday. In this one, you must read the peace announcements and realize that the reality is opposite of the words. Look at the position announced by each of the Taiwanese Presidential Candidates, and compare that with the Chinese leaders saying, "Oh, I think we are going to work everything out, there will be no need for war." The old saying, "Actions speak louder than words".

None of these things are going to appear in your local media, or on the National TV programs tonight. The people in North America think that the world revolves around them and their interests.

The people in North America think that the rest of the world thinks like they do. But the cultures of China, Iran, Russia and many other places are very different. When you hear people saying, "Oh people everywhere are all just alike", those people saying that are very WRONG.

I could write more on cultural psychologies and motivations but most of my readers (and certainly not the rest of the populace) would either not be interested or amendable to hearing it. (And please no remarks about my snobbishness or attitudes of superiority, I know very well the kinds of remarks and replies that I get.)

I have given you my original sources. You are as free to interpret them in any way as I am. Differently if you wish. But I conclude:

a. A very, very rapid build up of arms is taking place in China, Russia, the U.S., Japan North Korea, Israel, Near Eastern, Far Eastern, India, Pakistan, and other countries.

b. Talks and alignments are being strengthened on all sides, and the public is going to hear about the great peace progress being made and how the arms race is being wound down the numbers of missiles being reduced and so forth but the reality is going to be just the opposite.

c. A world economic crises would greatly increase tensions and the race towards a NWO currently being led by the U.S. will be GREATLY resisted by China, Russia, India and others who wish it to be bi-polar, or multi-polar, or uni-polar, rather than mono-polar as is the current thrust. None of these ways being just. They would just be rule by a gang of bullies, rather than by a single bully.

d. I conclude that all this will lead to nuclear world war in the next four to ten months. I greatly expect the lower number. It will be definitely felt by some of the protagonists to be to their detriment to wait longer.

e. I recognize that I am a single voice crying alone in the wilderness, (and yes, I recognize that a few readers agree with me) But, how terrible to be like Cassandra and be right, and have no one (so few) believe you. In this case, just how terrible it will be for me to plain be right.

Peace and love, Bruce Beach

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-- Nancy (, March 10, 2000


Bruce was wrong about the significance of secondary clocks. I can only hope and pray he is wrong about this as well.

-- (@ .), March 10, 2000.

What is the difference between "mono-polar" and "uni-polar"?

-- (, March 10, 2000.

I'm still on his mailing list although others have demanded to be removed. His commentary is still worthwhile to contemplate. I don't believe his consensus of friends has increased, but those who appreciate his words will pray for him and others. Selah.

-- dinosaur (, March 10, 2000.

Well, Brude is right about points a,b,c. An economic crisis could bring war. The economies of NOrth Korea and Russia are in the toilet. War would solidify their leaders' power. China has her eyes on Taiwan. India and Pakistan are always fueding about borders. It won't take much to start a war somewhere.

-- John (, March 10, 2000.

I think the air down in those buried buses is getting very, very stale....

-- Jim Cooke (, March 11, 2000.


Shame on you. Judging a man's ideas just because he buries buses in his backyard. My dog buries all sorts of things in the backyard, and I don't look down on him ;<). Well, actually I do, he is shorter than I am.

Best wishes,,,,,

-- Z1X4Y7 (, March 11, 2000.


To finish what was cut off {;<). Actually I do look down on him, he is shorter than I am.........

Best wishes,,,,

-- Z1X4Y7 (, March 11, 2000.

Censorship by software. It doesn't like that last sentence.

Best wishes,,,,


-- Z1X4Y7 (, March 11, 2000.

Poor Bruce, he's so desperate to be right about ONE earth changing event, he's resorted to this scattershot approach. This guy has been wrong so many times, people have lost count. How long ago DID he bury those buses in his backyard? Thirty years?

No, the wonder is that someone posted the words "Bruce Beach" and "thoughts" in the same line without using a smiley (or a dreary emoticon). Tinfoils, ya gotta laugh...

-- Y2K Pro (, March 11, 2000.


Funny comments. Yes...he confessed himself in one of his "updates" that he hasn't been right his life. He's been worried about a nuclear war since .... since whenever it was that folks BEGAN worrying about a nuclear war. His other concerns are like hang-nails in comparison, but I'm sure that in HIS mind they are all signs that the nuclear war is a neighborhood near YOU...SOON.

-- Anita (notgiving@anymore.thingee), March 11, 2000.

Astounding News!

These are the kind of lead in headers that get my eyes rolling. Folks, I dont know Bruce Beach personally but he has become somewhat of a carnival act after his national TV appearance last year. Kind of a Grizzly Adams on windowpane. Everything that he espouses has a modicum of possibility attached to it but as a whole it comes up way short. I guess my amazement continues to be that these visionarys have an audience to play to. Better to listen to real experts that know all of the facts, like Yourdon, North, and Hyatt.

-- Ra (tion@l.1), March 11, 2000.

Beach was no more "wrong" than thousands of other experts in CIA, IT, .gov and elsewhere. He buried a $10 school bus; they buried multimillion dollar bunkers.

Pro and Anita - go fuck yourselves you sanctimonious unemployed morons.

-- Better safe than sorry (, March 11, 2000.


It seems as though we hit a discord in someone's evaluation of Bruce Beach's messages throughout the past few years. It would seem to ME that this person never read where Bruce himself confessed that he's been wrong all his life. What do YOU think? [Were you over/under- whelmed by the response by this person? Did you SEE the dialogue that provided evidence to indicate that Bruce has ever been right?]

-- Anita (notgiving@anymore.thingee), March 11, 2000.

Anita: Bruce's defenders are often more strident than Bruce himself. I have seen Bruce on television a couple of times, and while he is a self- admitted kook, he seems relatively harmless. Who knows, one day he may make an inadvertantly correct prognostication - stranger things have happened.

The cowardly and anonymous Tinfoil defending Bruce is another matter - another of the Doomer brethren who's still pissed that TEOTWAWKI didn't happen. Another one of those folks who no doubt dreamed about "spreading lime on the corpses of my children". Takes all folks...

-- Y2K Pro (, March 11, 2000.

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