*CAP: NECESSARY FOR U.S. TO GO TO WAR WITH CHINA*

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From INSIGHT magazine:

Taking note of yesterdays announcement by Liberation Army Daily, the official newspaper of Red Chinas armed forces, former defense secretary Caspar Weinberger told a meeting on Capitol Hill Tuesday that, It might not be wise for America to go to war with China, but it might be necessary. The threat by the Peoples Liberation Army to engage in long-range missile attacks on the U.S. mainland needs an unequivocal, immediate, unambiguous, firm response, Weinberger said.

The former defense secretary also cited an 11,000-word white paper released by Beijing as a high-level negotiating team led by Deputy Secretary of Defense Strobe Talbott left China to return to the United States. Weinberger noted that although Clintons ambassador to China, Joseph Prueher, claimed the document contained only a sentence or two that was threatening, it was in fact so warlike as to contain no nuances, Weinbeger said, adding: Clinton should have picked a stronger U.S. ambassador.

Weinberger also noted Chinas forward deployment of missiles directed at Taiwan even as a carrier task force led by the USS Kittyhawk and two U.S. missile cruisers maneuvered off Japan. Thanks to U.S. technology sold to and stolen by the Red Chinese, Beijing is thought by defense experts to have at least 24 long-range missiles capable of hitting most of the United States with warheads the equivalent of 5 million tons of TNT.

Weinberger told the hushed audience at the Monday Club, hosted by former Indianapolis News editor M. Stanton Evans, that this would be a very good time to have a missile-defense shield in place as proposed under President Reagan. Because of the Clinton administration, Weinbeerger said, I dont think we are militarily ready for conflict with China.

-- Ray (ray@solarcollector.emp), March 01, 2000

Answers

W

-- Prince of Spain (Always@the.helm), March 01, 2000.

Wut bodders me is this: If they shoots all their misskles at us and blows us off the map, who in the world is gonna buy all their cheep little merchandises dat I sees in the stores everywheres?

-- Prince of Spain (Always@the.helm), March 01, 2000.

Rather than build individual bomb shelters, we could all rush to the local Wal-Mart when the sirens go off.

-- Russ (aa2gs@isoc.net), March 01, 2000.

Ray...

This is really frightening!! Thanks for the report.

You jokesters above: war is no joking matter!! y2k, war... are they only important if it affects you or yours? I hope you or yours are not of age to serve active duty military service... not to mention the millions of unmentionable horrors that will be inflicted on the innocent. God help us all!!

-- ilovemy38 (Godgunsguts@keepamerica.free), March 01, 2000.


Weinberger also brought nuclear weapons into Germany and then declared that counterstrikes agaist a Russian attack wouldn't necessarily be coming from the point of attack.

With Germany suddenly a nuclear base, it became a potential initial target. The Germans didn't forget that. It ws not helpful for the relations between our countries.

Weiberger's wisdom is not universally accepted.

-- W (me@home.now), March 01, 2000.



Germans should be glad that they aren't all speaking English. They bludgeouned and raped Europe, and would have taken us out next. The rest of us haven't forgotten *that*.

Instead of crushing them utterly and executing every surviving Nazi officer, as we should have, we helped them rebuild their economy and protected them from slavery to the Russians. And they whine because the armor we gave them is too heavy to bear, and might attract hostility!

China is going to do the same thing that Japan did in 1941: use our naive optimism and largesse against us, brutally and cynically.

Make your peace with God, because the 20th century isn't done with us yet...

Ray

-- Ray (ray@solarcollector.emp), March 01, 2000.


I admit, we all have selective memory!

-- W (me@home.now), March 01, 2000.

Does China think we won't hit back?

-- Mellow yellow (Yellow@bewildered.com), March 01, 2000.

Sure, they know. It just has to be said by a credible administartion.

-- W (me@home.now), March 01, 2000.

If we were nuked during Klinton's tenure, the only 'retaliation" would be the immediate "surrender" of the U.S. by that SOB, as he wets his panties. He's made a BUNCH of mortal enemies, ones who swore an oath to defend our country, and who STILL take that oath seriously. They won't forget his treason. Watch and see.

-- Dennis (djolson@pressenter.com), March 01, 2000.


I find this article frightening. The starwars defense system that congress passed was mangled to pieces after Clinton got ahold of it. The system is to be dumbed down and not ready to use till 2005. Also, executive order says US will absorb a first strike. (from Joel Skousen)

Do we have some kind of blackbox project or something that makes SDI obsolete? Surely Clinton must know that a Chinese missle would have his name on it.

nancy

-- nancy (new@mindspring.com), March 01, 2000.


Drat it! I was afraid there'd be a good reason for me having the bunker, after all...

The reports that I've seen in the press tend to bear out Cap's analysis...

-- Mad Monk (madmonk@hawaiian.net), March 01, 2000.


I had a prophetic dream a few days ago. China was standing there in the form of a tall Chinese Military Officer. He had a red military dress coat with many decorations. Standing next to him was his wife, Taiwan. They were standing outside a box office, outside a theater. The "SHOW" had not begun yet but it was about to begin soon.

I saw Russia, a 20 ft. tall grizzly who was also standing nearby to the left and was looking out for her interests which were her cubs. Standing next to the the bear was an alien or demonic life form as large as the bear. It had dark eyes which were cut as if it were cut like quartz or diamond shaped. He was there to help or influence the bear.

Earlier in the dream, I had run across a couple bear cubs and realized that the mother would be nearby. So I told several people there with me in the dream that we need to get out of here fast because the mother has to be around here somewhere. We began to run fast. Then we ran into another cub and that is when we noticed the mother, the alien, China and his wife preparing to enter the theater for the Show.

Prince of Spain said: "Wut bodders me is this: If they shoots all their misskles at us and blows us off the map, who in the world is gonna buy all their cheep little merchandises dat I sees in the stores everywheres?"

God responds to POS: "Standing afar off for the fear of her torment saying, Alas, alas that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come. And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:" Rev. 18:10&11.

...sdb

-- S. David Bays (SDBAYS@prodigy.net), March 01, 2000.


Please look at the crisis from what the Chinese have seen:

North Korea threatened war with South Korea over their nuke program and Clinton gave them foreign aid (He bought them off.) instead of a firm strong response.

Saddam consistently has gotten the better of Clinton. 1) He tried to assasinate George Bush and the punishment was that we blew up the equivalent of their CIA building. (In the night so that there were only 3 to 5 casualties.)Saddam could have cared less about that building and would have traded in ten of them for a chance to "off" GB. He also learned that BC was afraid of shedding blood and that he didn't know how to make retaliation painful.

2) About two years later he threatened to invade Kuwait again by massing troops on the border. Clinton did a quick build-up and the Iraqis retreated. But again Clinton did not punish SH for making us jump through those hoops.

3) Then SH invaded the Kurdish enclave and forced our CIA funded operatives to move permanently. We did some token retaliation but again it wasn't painful and SH had what he wanted.

4) So SH played all sorts of games with our nuclear inspectors and the net result is that they have been out of Iraq for what, about a year or a year and a half? He hasn't feared BC's responses enough to live up the terms of the cessation of hostilities of 1991.

5) And our planes get shot at every day in the "no fly zone" because there is little fear of American responses.

NOW THE CHINESE HAVE SEEN ALL OF THIS AND KNOW THAT DRAFT DODGING, POT SMOKING, SKIRT CHASING CLINTON DOES NOT HAVE THE CHARACTER OR ABILITY OF A NIXON, BUSH, OR JOHNSON TO DEAL WITH THEM.

Very dangerous times for us all.

-- Dana (A_Non_O_Moose@xxx.com), March 01, 2000.


Ray, isn't INSIGHT owned by Reverend Moon and the Unification Church? Thought I saw somewhere that this is one his political organs (along with The Washington Times).

pa

-- panjandrum (panjandrum@samfoote.net), March 01, 2000.



I'm certain that the Washington Times is owned by Moon's Unification Church. Don't know about Insight mag.

By the way, someone mentioned President Reagan's "Star Wars" vision and how his program has been scavenged. It looks like President Reagan's health went the same way as star wars: down and out in a hurry. Strange...

-- I.M. Benedict (prayingdown@theriver.com), March 01, 2000.


War?

We can't win a ground war against China if all 1.26 billion WANT to fight us off. They can't get their 1.26 billion to us to win a ground war in the U.S.

What can happen is our two countries can kill lots of people in some other country (like Taiwan) or our own (with nukes) until someone gives up trying.

Frank

-- Someone (ChimingIn@twocents.cam), March 02, 2000.


May I kindly suggest that we put Cap and all of his relatives and cronies who support him on the front lines of this war? If he really feels this way, that will be no problem....

By the way, I think that should be the criteria for launching any war or "military intervention".....Would you put your kids on the front line to support this cause?

-- Alice (Looking@glass.com), March 02, 2000.


There's a better way. My sneakers, cellphone and numerous other products we own were made in China. If the PRC does not not promptly release our flight crew and arrange to return the Navy plane (gutted now, anyway), this is how individual Americans can respond. Refuse to buy anything "Made in China" or anything whose components were made there. Tell the store manager your reason, but if you'd rather not explain, just quietly refrain from buying Chinese manufactured products. The U.S. is China's largest trading partner. This is a good time to look for "Made in USA" labels and support American workers. Pas

-- Mignon Cameron (MABCam@aol.com), April 03, 2001.

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