OT: Reports of trails today in NE Ohio

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FYI, I was told of spraying going on earlier today (mid-AM) in the Northeast Ohio area, specifically between Akron and Youngstown.

Aircraft were too high to be identifiable with the naked eye, but the trails were reported to be building rapidly.

Link to one of yesterday's trails threads, "Many trails over Austin". The final post in that thread by Elaine Seavey is a succinct, solid explantion of why some of us are concerned.

-- redeye in ohio (not@work.com), February 29, 2000

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redeye- What do you think of the logical explanation that they are testing dispersal mechanisms in the event of germ or chemical warfare of antidotes? I heard the trails contained surfactants/soaplike substances to aid in dispersal. I know plenty of folks might have an allergic reaction to even a mild soap or non-ionic surfactant, but if we do get hit with some terrorist's explosion of a deadly chemical, maybe this is the best alternative to having it disperse on the air currents and kill even more people. The fact is there are terrible threats out there, and they need to start examining antidotal measures. Just speculation of course.... Every time you see a trail, it is a reminder to have yourself prepped enough to be able to stay inside for at least a month until (hopefully) anything toxic washes out of the environment.

-- still (prepped@and.waiting), February 29, 2000.

I for one dont care anymore. This world is an illusion, and when I die it will mean nothing. God has put me here and I am going to deal with the things he has me to deal with. Be it going to war or dieing from a plague, or getting beat to death by a UN troop wondering why i have so many gas cans.

I hear people saying that "doomers" hate humanity and want it to fail. And for this they should be stopped.

Well guess what. I do hate humanity. i hate living in this flesh, I hate my very life in this world. And i hate dealing with others sufferings, cryings, bleedings, and heart aches. I hate the world and everything thing that it is.

It is not God's fault this is happening. It is the devil, the old serpent, Satan that has blasted us into confusion and ruin, corrupting our very human core with the beginning sin. i will stand in Jesus and praise God's name as he holds that vile, evil, traitor beast accountable for every woe, for ever more.

CUT MY HEAD OFF FIRST!!! I SHALL RECEIVE MY ROBE. AND I WILL GLOW WITH THE SPIRIT WHEN MY DAY OF RECKONING ARRIVES. And if any reads this and post, and see's me die, will know that it was I that wrote this letter, and will see this glow as bright as the sun.

Because I will be leaving this lie, this hUMaNitY, this world. It will be like a weird waking dream and a breathtaking relief that it is over. Which will equate to me wanting to spend eternity in praise and thanksgiving to the One True God. For his perfect delight. The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The God of Israel. This world is not even real. It is a day dream. A mist before dawn. A Chemtrail.

That is why choosing Jesus as your savior is the one true way. Because it is a simple little itty bitty choice. But all will make it. I already made mine. Let the dead bury their dead

Again, I hate this life, and i abhore everything that points to man living without complete and utter reverence to our Lord Father, through his one and only son Jesus. And everything that twists the one truth of our Father above. That includes queers saying they were born that way.

Tell them to all to repent, as i tell you now. And then prepare to die... the first death. THEN PREPARE FOR THE WONDERFUL FEAST. YOU ARE INVITED. A SEAT HAS BEEN SET FOR YOU

REPENT AND BE SAVED! RELEASE YOUR TEARS OF JOY AND BATH IN THE WARMTH OF THE TRUE LOVE OF THE LAMB. Promised by the blood shed at the cross. It is our prize, it was made for us, to be received by us, and we are to claim it in VICTORY!!!

-- He is coming (Elijah@chariot.com), February 29, 2000.


Hey I took some KILLER pictures of trails over my land in central Kentucky this morning. Even got one of the plane in the act.

Oh and before someone posts that air traffic is normal. Thats a big BONK. In my neck of the woods we never get planes flying overhead except for the military aircraft from FT. Campbell and the county Judge Executive flying his weedhopper.

-- Johnny (jljtm@bellsouth.net), February 29, 2000.


still,

Your 'dispersal mechanisms testing' hypothesis is one of the least threatening explanations I can think of. Just about any other explanation gets less benign rapidly. Yes, I have heard of and seen web sites describing chemical analysis of the residue which reached ground level and was identifiable. Doing a search of the Sightings site for 'chemtrails' ought to yield a mass of documents to peruse.

I am aware of ancedotal reports from hospital ER personnel of increased incidences of, e.g. very serious chest congestion coming within days of these incidents.

What bothers me most about these incidents is that we seem to have no solid indication of who (specifically) is behind it. Government, certainly, but what part? DOD? Defense is only one agency that could run its own fleet of unmarked jet tankers.

Finally, you might want to check up on the U.N.'s Agenda 21; it is a plan, well under way, which has as its goal turning most all of this country west of the Ohio River back to total wilderness. Agenda 21 is not BS, repeat not, BS. Since those wilderness areas are to be totally not-human-accessible, all we will have is travel corridors. Now, making that plan work will involve some pretty radical population reductions. A carefully-engineered pandemic ought to do nicely, no?

-- redeye in ohio (not@work.com), February 29, 2000.


If you look really close, you can see the two spray cans in this guys hands.



-- Ivan (workin@ntherailroadallthelivelong.day), February 29, 2000.



Heard on a net audio program the other day that the national statistical figures have an additional ten thousand (10,000) deaths above the normal rate for this time of year due to URIs (Upper Respiratory Infections).

-- Lurkess (Lurkess@Lurking.XNet), February 29, 2000.

Well, if he has a spray can in each hand, I sure hope he had his toesies snug around the stick!

Contrails reference: "Contrail Connection"

Agenda 21 references: "Soverignty.net" and "Local Agenda 21 -- The U.N. Plan for Your Community".

Also, "Mind Control" might also be of interest.

-- redeye in ohio (not@work.com), February 29, 2000.


This is a response to ImSo posted on the Austin chemtrail thread. This is a duplicate post.

ImSo, yes, you may question a poster; however, belittling, intimidating, and ridiculing queries are not appropriate. And this is what you have been doing on the chemtrail and other controversial threads since the day you arrived on this forum. You have been harassing posters.

I've replied before to several of your questions directed to me personally; however, there have not been responses from you to my replies. Things seem to be quietly dropped.

I'll ask you for the third time: What happened to the highly respected investigative reporter Dorothy Kilgallen? How about opening that can of worms?

Waiting for your reply....

-- Lurkess (Lurkess@Lurking.XNet), February 29, 2000.


redeye,

Thanks for posting the Agenda 21 links. I hadn't heard of this effort, this "Master Plan" as it were.

YIKES!!!

I always knew there was a reason that I just never felt comfortable around "do-gooders". While growing up, I spent a great deal of time in Mystic, CT, home of the ever-popular, monumentally boring Mystic Seaport. I knew many humanlike creatures who worked there, festooned with Birkenstocks and ratty pony tails, with Socialist drivel spouting from their cake holes. I affectionately refer to these "people" as Meaningful F**ks.

Shame on me! While I was busy making fun of them and tormenting them in whatever way I could, they were organizing the takeover of the world. Who'da thunk it?

Yes, the time is soon coming when we Christians will be sorely tested. I saw a thread yesterday on some guy who had patented the Human Tatoo ID system. Let's not mistake what this is. The Mark of the Beast, pure and simple. As the persecution of Christians becomes trendy, and the resistence more pronounced, all of us who openly profess our Christian faith will be forced to make the choice of whether we live or die. As the Bible instructs us, we must resist the Mark at all costs, even to the point of martyrdom.

Are we strong enough to make the choice we know we must? For Christ's sake, I hope so!

Jimmy

-- Jimmy Splinters (inthe@dark.com), February 29, 2000.


Would so mind posting that link.

I for one believe that the mark will not be a biochip. it will physically have no more control over you other than a brand has on a cow. I see a great ushering. I have had my own family forbid the idea that a simple tattoo is the mark. They said its just a testing system, because God would obviously not send you to hell for just a tattoo its all in the gearing up for the bio-chip. That's what will control our minds. And make us banned from life.

I didnt cry that night. But I trembled. I like to get that stuff out of the way early.

IM FIRST... lets just say i quit when I am ahead.

-- He is almost here... (Elijah@chariot.com), February 29, 2000.



Dang! Redeye, you beat me to the Contrail link. I was busy searching my bookmarks, guess I should clean them up. To any interested, I relay what I have seen in Florida. Perfectly clear morning, very high flying aircraft start to systematically fly while white plumes of vapor(?) trail behind them. The vapors I remembered from once upon a time, ALWAYS disappeared in a short period of time, and still do, from some aircraft. Well some days, with this blitz of flying and trails, those things don't go away. They eventually blend together to form a white, lace like cloudy blanket. And within three hours of this continuous flying, the sky is a cloudy blanket. I swear I have seen them fly at an almost straight up angle. But someone told me it was an optical illusion, but I don't think so. So I try to reason with "self". Other people say these are commercial air lines, okay, if that is the truth, why are the flying helter skelter some days, and not other. Some days the sky traffic is light, with no plumes. Don't the commercial airlines fly the same routes every day? they publish their flight route (pictures) in their magazine. The route must not change very much. I have never witnessed any of that white gooey stuff the site claims. I don't know what that vapor is, if anything. I only know it turns a beautiful clear day, to overcast. I have watched it. Your turn to start watching and help figure it out.

-- Tag (you@reit.com), February 29, 2000.

I can't tell if you guys are pulling a practical joke and baiting me or if there really are people silly enough to take a single chemtrail as sinister. Everytime I think people can't possibly get any stupider...

-- ImSo (lame@prepped.com), February 29, 2000.

redeye; we had some real interesting trails this morning before the sun came up. Many lines together and crosshatched patterns and with the sun coming up it was looking at a blue sky and the trails were of a pinkish/orange color. So apparently they were layed down last night, I'll post these pics when the film gets developed. If my developer here in North Carolina will do it, small town people get real scared sometimes,know what I mean ? Anyway, my thoughts are these about the parties involved, Either the Military is spraying the substance we see so that HARRP can follow it on their screens and activate it by EMF's. Or, we have UN planes doing it for the WHO organization to follow the numbers of illnesses reported by hospitals. So they can determine if the substance developed actually works,similiar to the synthetic biological agent to eliminate the human eminue system and dispersed in third world countries.

-- Furie (furieart@webworkz.com), February 29, 2000.

ImSo, may I burn in Hell forever, if I lie about what my human eyes have seen to see.

-- Tag (you@reit.com), February 29, 2000.

ImSo,

So you think NASA is stupid then because they supported with research the belief that contrails formed above 33,000 feet dissipate in 3 seconds? and uh can't form under 33,000 feet? If NASA is correct, then this activity called chemtrail is not a contrail. So what is it? I've got NASA on the phone, and we are anxiously awaiting your response...

-- Hokie (Hokie_@hotmail.com), February 29, 2000.



redeye- they were heavy over central ohio on tuesday also. started at sunrise and worked us all day long. not a `cloud` in the sky all day....but sure was alot of UNclouds by late afternoon! :{

-- mutter (murmur@ya.com), March 01, 2000.

Well, for an alegedly good reason I was up and out and about yesterday and I DID look up. I saw normal, high altitude, unstable atmosphere contrails in the Southeast, over normal commercial routes. I ahve mad myself familiar with the comercial routes in NEOhio over several years and these were right on the money.

They were about as persistent as I would expect them to be given the atmosphere we had yesterday, with today's weather moving in and the upper altitude temp and humidity ranges.

Remember, in some conditions, it doesn't take much to start a cloud, and the sucker'll grow like Topsy.

Chuck, who isn't saying that Chemtrails are bunk ('cause I believe otherwise, based on some testing data I have seen elsewhere), just that the 2/29 ones were pretty much normal contrails.

-- Chuck, a night driver (rienzoo@en.com), March 01, 2000.


Mr Hokie--

Reference, please? I remember back in my college days when "NASA" found proof of the missing day in the Bible...

-- Jim Thompson (jimthompsonmd@attglobal.net), March 01, 2000.


From: Y2K, ` la Carte by Dancr (pic), near Monterey, California My ChemTrails Page

Hah! unclouds ... that's a good name for them!

-- Dancr (addy.available@my.webpage), March 01, 2000.


Chuck, Hello! hope you and better half are doing well! Re: the "Plumes", it doesn't happen every day. I have not started a diary on the dates, because I keep dismissing any kind of explanation. Hoping it will go away, or suddenly some be revealed as something "totally normal", so that I, will have to smack my head again, after being sooooo wrong on another issue. I can't bite into "population control". It has to be costing way more money for air craft fuel, than it would to pay for Social Security benefits for those folks on the ground. I only know it is "different". I have a need to know WHY it is different. It might be a very simple explanation. If so, I want to understand it, (taking up limited brain space!) .-) And also, I am not one to claim those "plumes" have sent me to the E.R.. I am still smoking, joking, and E.R. free.

-- tag (you@reit.com), March 01, 2000.

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