Women begin to abandon Hillary

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February 23 2000 Women begin to abandon Hillary

BY DAMIAN WHITWORTH

HILLARY CLINTON, whose stoicism during the Monica Lewinsky scandal won her much admiration among women, suddenly finds female voters are turning off in droves as she tries to make a political career of her own.

In an alarming trend that could ensure her defeat in the New York Senate race if it continues, Mrs Clinton's popularity has slipped so badly that her opponent, the brash, tough-talking Rudolph Giuliani, is now as well liked by women as she is. Her campaign is searching gently for reasons for the antipathy among her former core constituency and is plotting ways to revive her appeal.

At the beginning of last year, when the impeachment drama was at its height and Mrs Clinton was standing by her husband while making it clear that she was hurt by his behaviour, Mrs Clinton's record approval ratings owed much to the support of women. The popularity fuelled the first talk that she should run for the Senate herself, and a Marist poll showed that if she did so 58 per cent of women would support her compared to 34 per cent who would back the New York mayor.

Now, a new Marist poll shows that among women she is just one point ahead of her rival, on 44 per cent.

An equally alarming poll, by Quinnipiac College, shows she is particularly unpopular among white women, who favour Mr Giuliani by 52 to 34. "If she can't win among white women, historical trends show she can't win the election," said Doug Schwartz, director of the poll. Mrs Clinton now trails Mr Giuliani by several points in the polls, while a year ago she was well ahead.

Recent history also shows that the Clintons are devoted to polling, and so the First Lady has made it a number one priority to woo women again. The first task is to establish amount of general "Clinton fatigue", as there is with both sexes, after years of scandal. But many women also express an unhappiness that Mrs Clinton is using her position as the President's wife to seek power herself.

To this end Mrs Clinton, like the Vice-President, Al Gore, is engaged in the difficult task of distinguishing herself as her own person, independent of the President. She is trying to sell her own independent biography, emphasising the work she did before her husband's presidency to prove that she would have had the qualities for the job if she had not been living in the White House.

When she launched her campaign with an 18-minute video, she was portrayed as a mother, a high-flying student, a lawyer working on the Watergate impeachment committee and an advocate of issues involving children and families. Mr Clinton was mentioned almost in passing, and if you only had the film to go on you would have had only the vaguest idea what he did.

"I think a lot of women don't know about anything I did before the White House. It is my burden to talk about the professional and public career I had independently of my husband," she told The New York Times. "I mean, I have a very long record of independent public service, but it was understandably subsumed into the larger mission of the President in 1992."

She also plans to focus heavily on issues that women are concerned about, particularly education and health, and she has embarked on a drive to speak to as many New York women's groups as possible. "With regard to women, we have work to do and we're going to do it," Howard Wolfson, her spokesman, said. "It's incumbent upon us to make the case on the issues and also her record and her life story."

-- Spoonfed (Spoonfed@spoonfeddd.xcom), February 23, 2000

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Don't ever let it be said that waitress's never get their revenge :::giggle:::

-- cin (cinlooo@aol.com), February 23, 2000.

{ Her campaign is searching gently for reasons for the antipathy among her former core constituency and is plotting ways to revive her appeal. }

Just have ol' Bill drop his pants in public again....hehehe

Seriously, 'BOUT TIME !!!!!!!!!!!

Never could understand how you could win an election based on your husband's indiscretions and your acceptance thereof.....Not even women want a doormat in office representing them!!

We may accept her as a "good" wife (I don't by the way), but the very thing that made her a "good" wife makes her a poor choice for office. No guts, no glory......Tell the schmuck off!

-- Alice (Looking@glass.com), February 23, 2000.


Alice, I absolutely agree with you!

And, what exactly has she DONE to aspire to a Senate seat? What exactly are her accomplishments? (Aside from a lot a touchy feely "statements" about the "chiiiiiillldruuuuuuun?") Is it that a kid can divorce its parents if it feels wronged? Sheesh...let's get a collective reality grip here!

-- Birdlady (Bird@nest.home), February 23, 2000.


Have watched her, and can not see any real leadership qualities. Her track record in handling difficult situations (husbands infidelity, whitewater, travelgate), just doesn't seem to provide honest leadership qualities. How has she done as a first lady? Mother? Wife? Honesty? Integrity? And whats the deal with this lapel pin she and others are wearing?

-- suzy (suzy@nowhere.com), February 23, 2000.

Do you mean the pin of phoenix clutching a pearl?The same one that McCain'S,Bush's,Gore's,and Bradley's wives all wear?Symbolizes that the globalists have control of the world.

-- just a thought (tigerpm@netscape.com), February 23, 2000.


the Pin ? Oh that bull-dyke thing... yeah it's all the rage wid dose biker chicks.

-- Culry-weee! (curly@mo.com), February 23, 2000.

DUHHHH! Who wants a leader whose already proved they'll put up with being lied to, cheated on and then lies down for more? My heart goes out to her as a wife, but not as an elected leader.

Of course, it's the "Leader" who lied, cheated and generally sc****d around. Hell of a choice there, isn't it?

-- little wifey (wife@home.com), February 23, 2000.


It has always bothered me to watch many an Admiral's wife or Captain's wife "wear" her husband's rank.....Maybe that is why I am so offended every time I watch Hillary do the same thing.

Some women think sleeping with a man and/or wearing his ring gives them some kind of special "privelege" or "ability"....just don't understand it.

I agree that Hillary has not demonstrated one bit of ability/experience in the political arena (well, other than disaster management....and only on a personal front). Her whole campaign seems to be about "polls". She should have shoved one up her hubby. THEN maybe I would have considered voting for her. (smile)

-- Alice (Looking@glass.com), February 23, 2000.


The article said,

"An equally alarming poll, by Quinnipiac College,"

*Equally alarming*?!? Equally alarming to whom? Surely not the good voters of New York.

Frank

-- Someone (ChimingIn@twocents.cam), February 23, 2000.


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