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Universities face headaches after installing PeopleSoft software4.17 p.m. ET (2126 GMT) February 14, 2000 By Nicole Ziegler Dizon, Associated Press
EVANSTON, Ill. (AP) When students at Northwestern University wanted to register for winter classes last November, it was supposed to be as easy as point and click.
The university spent millions of dollars installing new software by PeopleSoft so, among other things, students could register online. But as hundreds of students tried to sign up from their rooms, point and click turned into crash and burn.
"When more than a handful of students tried to register simultaneously, the portal just shut down,'' said Rebecca Dixon, who as associate provost of Northwestern enrollment had to set up an emergency registration process at the school's computer labs.
Northwestern is one of several universities that installed PeopleSoft programs to replace outdated, non-Y2K-compliant computer systems, only to find serious glitches. Problems have delayed tuition bills and financial aid and registration.
Officials at PeopleSoft, one of the world's top business management software-makers, say the problems were to be expected, especially as large universities scrambled to prepare their systems for the year 2000.
Laura King, PeopleSoft's director of marketing for education and government, said it's extremely complicated to transfer old university systems fragmented from department to department into new ones that share records from, for example, the financial aid office and the registration office. King also said data entry errors hindered the software's ability to work at some schools.
Northwestern decided to go with PeopleSoft in 1996, a year before the Pleasanton, Calif.-based company released its student administration software. Since the university was one of the first to test that software, it was natural to have kinks to work out, King said. More than 420 universities use the software.
"It is a young product,'' King said. "There's lots of nuances to this type of software and this type of technology.''
In addition to Northwestern, other schools that have experienced problems include:
Cleveland State University, which hired a law firm to sort out problems that delayed financial aid for thousands of students and sent costs of installing the programs soaring from an original estimate of $4.2 million to $11 million.
Boise State University in Idaho, where transcripts were delayed and costs had ballooned to $16 million almost three times the original estimate by the end of last year.
The University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh, where trouble with PeopleSoft software created a loophole for students with poor grades who otherwise would have been asked to leave school for the spring semester.
Northwestern plans to try online registration again this week for the spring quarter. Dixon said students successfully added and dropped classes online last month, so she's hoping registration will work as well.
"It'll be time before you can say that we've got smooth sailing,'' Dixon said, adding with a laugh, "I hope in my lifetime, and I'm only 60.''
http://www.foxnews.com/national/0214/d_ap_0214_130.sml
-- Martin Thompson (mthom1927@aol.com), February 14, 2000
The state of Montana is also using this software with a lot of difficulties. Lee probably has more info on this.See
http://greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=002PYZ
-- Martin Thompson (mthom1927@aol.com), February 14, 2000.
I believe earlier posts will also show the University of Southern Mississippi also had troubles with Peoplesoft
-- Bud Hamilton (budham@hotmail.com), February 16, 2000.
Martin - I posted the same article and asked that it be deleted. Good find!Bud - You're correct. The University of Southern Mississippi is using PeopleSoft software.
So far, here's our list: 6 universities, 1 city, 1 state, 1 country
U of S Mississippi
Ohio State U
Cleveland State U, OH
Boise State, IA
Northwestern U, IL
U of Wisconsin
Montana State Dept
City of Cleveland, OH
Mexico - clients unnamed
(think I'm missing a university)
-- Lee Maloney (leemaloney@hotmail.com), February 18, 2000.
Here's a list of 177 universities world-wide that use PeopleSoft software. Not all could necessarily be having Y2k conversion or compatibility problems.~~~~~~
Apollo Group Incorporated
Art Institute Of Chicago
Australian National University Canberra
Baylor University
Benedictine University
Berkeley College
Boise State University
Boston College
Box Hill Institute Tech and Further Educ
California Polytechnic State Univ Found
California State University
California State University Bakersfield
California State University Fresno
California State University Los Angeles
California State University Northridge
Case Western Reserve University
Catholic University of America
CBSI
Central Queensland Univ Of Rockhampton
Central Washington University
Christopher Newport University
City Colleges Of Chicago
Claremont Graduate University
Clemson University
Cleveland State University
College Of Lake County
College Of New Jersey
College Of The Holy Cross
Columbia College Chicago
Community College of Rhode Island
Community College of Rhode Island
Connecticut College
Cornell University
Duke University
Ecole des Hautes Etudes Commerciales
Emory University
Fairleigh Dickinson University
Frederick Community College
Gallaudet University
Galveston Community College District
Gemological Institute Of America
Gemological Institute Of America
Georgetown University
Gettysburg College
Grand Rapids Community College
Grand Rapids Community College
Griffith University
Heartland Community College
Hogeschool Holland
Hogeschool van Amsterdam
Houston Community College System
Howard Hughes Medical Institute
Illinois Central College
Indiana University Iona College
James Madison University
Kansas State University
Kentucky Community and Tech College Syst
KPMG LLP
LDS Church Education System
LDS Church Education System
Leland Stanford Jr University
Long Beach Community College District
Los Alamos National Laboratory
Los Rios Community College District Louisiana State University At Alexandria
Louisiana State University In Shreveport
Louisiana State University System
LSU Medical Center
Maricopa Community College District
Maryland Institute College Of Art
Metropolitan Community College
Middlesex University
Miracosta College
New Jersey City University
New York Medical College
New York University
Noorderpoortcollege
North Carolina State University
Northeastern University
Northern Alberta Institute of Technology
Northern Alberta Institute of Technology
Northern Arizona University
Northern Illinois University
Northwestern University
Ohio State University
Ontario College Application Services
Oregon Graduate Institute Sci and Tech
Oregon State University Foundation
Palomar College
Polytechnic University
Princeton University
Regents Of The University Of CA San Fran Regents Of University Of Minnesota
Research Corp Of The Univ Of Hawaii
Rhode Island College
Rhode Island Office of Higher Education
RijksUniversiteit Groningen
ROC Eindhoven
ROC Nijmegen
Salem State College
San Diego State University
Santa Clara University
Santa Monica College Southeastern Louisiana University
Southern Methodist University St Fontys Hogescholen
St Petersburg Junior College
Stichting Hogeschool van Utrecht
Stichting Katholieke Universiteit Nijmegen
SUNY Stony Brook
Syracuse University
Technische Universiteit Delft
Texas Christian University
Trinity College
Tufts University
UNITEC Institute of Technology
Universidad de Navarra
Universidad de Zaragoza
Universitair Ziekenhuis Antwerpen
Universite' Laval
University At Albany State Univ Of NY
University Of Adelaide
University Of Akron
University Of Alberta
University Of Auckland
University Of British Columbia
University Of British Columbia University Of Ca Berkeley Extension
University Of California Riverside University of California, San Francisco
University Of Central Florida
University Of Colorado
University Of Colorado Foundation Inc
University Of Connecticut
University Of Delaware
University Of Florida Foundation Inc
University Of Hawaii
University Of Iowa
University Of Kansas
University Of Kansas Medical Center
University Of Louisville
University Of Massachusetts
University Of Michigan
University Of Missouri
University Of New Orleans
University of New South Wales of Sydney
University of New South Wales of Sydney
University Of Northern Colorado
University Of Oklahoma Health Sci Cntr
University Of Rhode Island
University Of Rochester
University Of Saskatchewan
University Of South Florida
University Of Southern California
University Of Southern Mississippi
University Of Southern Queensland
University Of St Thomas
University Of Surrey
University Of Sydney
University Of Texas At Tyler
University Of The West Indies
University Of Utah
University Of Waterloo
University Of Western Australia
University Of Western Ontario
University Of Wisconsin-Madison University Of Wisconsin - Whitewater
University Of Wisconsin Oshkosh University Of Wisconsin System
University Of Wyoming
Vanderbilt University
Virginia Community College System
Washtenaw Community College
Wesleyan University
West Chester University Of Pennsylvania
West Virginia Network for Telecomputing
SOURCE: PeopleSoft, Inc Customers List - Higher Education
http://checkers.peoplesoft.com/ourcust.nsf/CustHE ?OpenView&Expand=1.1
-- Lee Maloney (leemaloney@hotmail.com), February 18, 2000.
Here's part of an article from January 7, 2000. PeopleSoft has really cornered the market.....~snip~
The [Ohio] university has joined six other Big Ten schools in asking PeopleSoft of Pleasanton, Calif., to improve its student-tracking programs that handle things such as registration, financial aid and grades.
Even though many schools are having problems with PeopleSoft's student-information-system software, officials of OSU and the other Big Ten schools say the company has the best products on the market to overhaul and replace outdated, home-grown, patchwork computer systems at big, complex universities.
~snip~
Complete article on this board at: "Ohio State University WWW weather server"
-- Lee Maloney (leemaloney@hotmail.com), February 18, 2000.
January 3, 2000Leading Stories - Technology
Bay Area outlook
Company to watch -- PeopleSoft Inc.
It's Chapter Two for this Pleasanton company, a high-flyer who hit the wall in 1998 but plummeted last year. Stock prices are inching upward from a low of $11.5 in April and are promising to be in the $20 range by year end. PeopleSoft executives blamed Y2K for its woes, which in all fairness hit its most of its competitors just as hard, but 2000 will tell if PeopleSoft has what it takes to make a comeback. Armed with new hard-hitting CEO Craig Conway, the company is on the acquisition path, and with rumors of the company being ripe for acquisition, 2000 will be the beginning of Chapter Two.
East Bay Business Times; Pleasanton, California
ht tp://www.amcity.com/eastbay/stories/2000/01/03/story5.html
-- Lee Maloney (leemaloney@hotmail.com), March 21, 2000.