These are NOAA photos. Note the concentration around DeeCee but not NYC. Odd.

http://www.osei.noaa.gov/Events/Unique/Other/UNIcontrails042_N5L.jpg http://www.osei.noaa.gov/Events/Unique/Other/UNIcontrails042_N5.jpg

-- Ivan (workin@therailroadallthelivelong.day), February 11, 2000

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-- Ivan (workin@ntherailroadallthelivelong.day), February 11, 2000.

must have been an off day. actually i was driving from VA to ME over the past week and noticed contrails in VA, MD, DE, NY and MA. i did not see any in maine during the whole week. i also saw about eight planes take off in pairs on sun am from somewhere in northeast MD or DE. strange. some were spraying massive contrails immediately. others appeared to be on their way somewhere.

-- tt (cuddluppy@aol.com), February 11, 2000.

-- test (test@test.test), February 11, 2000.

FWIW the air temperature and dew point where any particular plane is flying determines whether or not a normal contrail forms. Many a time in the last many years I've seen a commercial airliner go by at 30,000 ft. or so leaving no trail at all. And at other times leaving heavy contrails.

So this image is inconclusive, and says nothing about chemtrails.

-- Tom Carey (tomcarey@mindspring.com), February 11, 2000.

-- works (works@works.works), February 11, 2000.

It should be comparatively quick work to check departing and arriving flight schedules for Maryland and D.C. airports and thereby determine what portion of these numerously parallel and nicely crammed contrails are accountable to commercial airlines flights in the hour or two before the picture was taken. The rest of the trails would be military flights or otherwise attibutable to ......... "OTHER".

Great pix by the way.

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-- Squirrel Hunter (nuts@upina.cellrelaytower), February 11, 2000.

Ivan,

The date at the bottom of the photo is 2/11/99. Is the photo a year old?

Jimmy

-- Jimmy Splinters (inthe@dark.com), February 11, 2000.

The larger NOAA image shows a lot more. Hard to figure how commercial traffic could account for this. But add in the mil flights and who knows?

The year-old date is also interesting, in its way.

What I suggested in the post above is that absence of contrails is not necessarily absence of traffic.

As usual in this business, nothing is unequivocal.

-- Tom Carey (tomcarey@mindspring.com), February 12, 2000.

I am throwing in the towel on chemtrails as they've been such a "way of life" here in this area of So. Calif, since last Summer to the present day, I would be more startled NOT to see them.

Hot, cold, wet or dry, they're there. Strong winds or no winds, they're there. Morning, noon and night, they're there.

-- Richard (Astral-Acres@webtv.net), February 12, 2000.

4th dimensional hyper space condensation-ionization trails due to non Y2K compliant cloaking devices of *unauthorized* ufo activities??

Prolly some kind of 3rd-4th D resonant interference patterns resulting from leaks created between overlapping dimension shifts. Otherwise referred to as "space goo". It's a common problem found througout this N-Dimension and should NOT be cause for concern, anymore than the extraordinary amounts of "Dust" already found throughout "The Realm..."

Brooms and vacuumes...are in order. Check the tops of door railings.

http://www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm

-- steve (WhoCares@nymore.Right?com), February 12, 2000.

As an old professor of mine liked to say, "I don't allow class discussion, as it is a pooling of ignorance."

-- Imso (lame@prepped.com), February 12, 2000.

BTW, the chemtrail problem has apparently been solved. Read the reply from SDB in Uncle Bob's earlier post--he got the scoop in a prophetic dream.

Apparently God is flying around in an airplane, spilling a plague from a bowl willy-nilly on the folks below. Not sure why He decided to use modern technology, what with the embedded chip problem and all.

Does anyone know how many countries are being plagued??

-- I'mSo (lame@prepped.com), February 12, 2000.

Thank you for this pic. A few months ago I thought it was bunk too! Not anymore. I have witnessed this too many times to know better. Every day it seems another `un-believer` finds outs for him/herself that there is indeed something quite ABnormal about these `trails`, not the people who have already experienced them. And for the record, I have no idea what these are about. But even if it was "just normal air-traffic" we all should be in an uproar about the health effects of that amount of pollution over the vast majority of our population!

-- mutter (murmur@ya.com), February 12, 2000.

What's UTC?

Yep I'm under the cloud pictured here. They started spraying Thurs around 1pm EST, and created a spectacular sun set. They sprayed through the night, and all day Friday. I had such a severe migraine Friday that I had to leave work. Could hardly see and had to leave for my 10min commute cause the migraine was bad enough to where I was afraid if I stayed at work longer then I would not be able to drive home.

Sore throat, chills, shooting pain, muscles spasms, "spacing out" (symptom of petite mal seizure), and when I walked the dogs last night around 8, we all felt like crap. I took a shower and also bathed them, then they returned to their normal energetic self. During the walk I get the novacaine face/lips effect so knew we all had to wash anyway.

Today I feel great though.

I watched them spraying, and for the first 24hrs they were at about 10,000 feet or so (where it is physically impossible to leave a CONtrail). Then last night they started doing the high atmosphere spraying, but the trails would not dissipate in 45 seconds (as contrails do).

-- Hokie (Hokie_@hotmail.com), February 12, 2000.

Anyway, yesterday my speech was slurring, and the migraine was so bad that the thought of a power drill installing a pressure valve in my cranium was exceptionally comforting even without anethesia.

If anyone wants to understand the symptoms of the chemtrails that I and many experience, then read up on gulf war syndrome, which is identical. I recommend this site:

www.gulfwarvets.com

-- Hokie (Hokie_@hotmail.com), February 12, 2000.

Mr. Lame: "Apparently God is flying around in an airplane"

You are an ignorant troll Mr. Imsolame. I find your little doggy pile posts all over this forum. I recommend that you be barred as I have yet to read one sentence from you that wasn't trollish in character. Do I hear a 2nd? sdb

-- S. David Bays (SDBAYS@prodigy.net), February 13, 2000.