American Airlines Flight Makes Emergency Landing in Caracas--engine problems cited

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Feb 7, 2000 - 11:57 AM

American Airlines Flight Makes Emergency Landing in Caracas--engine problems cited The Associated Press

MIAMI (AP) - An American Airlines flight on its way to Miami from Brazil turned back and made an emergency landing in Venezuela Monday because of engine problems.

Flight 904 left Rio de Janeiro Monday morning with 169 passengers and 13 crew members, said Martha Pantin, spokeswoman for American Airlines.

The crew noticed vibration in one of the engines of the 767 and decided to make an emergency landing in Caracas. It was a normal landing and there were no injuries, she said. ] The passengers were transferred to another plane and arrived in Miami at 9:05 a.m., Pantin said.

The first plane remained in Caracas, where it was being inspected by maintenance.

Link:

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/florida/MGIKANBBE4C.html

-- Carl Jenkins (Somewherepress@aol.com), February 08, 2000

Answers

Man, the buffers in those computers are overflowing all over the place. Unfortunately, there are going to be a lot more crashes in the near future. They should have listened to us.

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), February 08, 2000.

At least nobody died on this one. It's pretty clear that Y2K is destroying air travel. It's only a matter of time before all planes are grounded forever.

-- (jeffDD@ticon.net), February 08, 2000.

Hawk writes:

>>Man, the buffers in those computers are overflowing all over the place. Unfortunately, there are going to be a lot more crashes in the near future. They should have listened to us. <<

Lord a mighty, Hawk, youz gotz buffers all mixed up with mechanical problems. Y'all know this kinda stuff happened before rollover, doncha? In fact, I 'member you pointen out this here Mad Dawg-80 accident site:

http://www.dlc.fi/~andelin/md80acci.htm

Raise my rent! Looky at all them problems in 1999? Don't suppose them buffers was act'n up then do ya? Did ya ever look at January 99 Vs January 2000 like I pointed out in that thar other thread where you figgered out that buffers done caused this mess?

Hell-fire, there's an Alaska Airlines jet with a problem in Feb99. Doggone buffers anyway.

Shoot, I'm leaving Thursday fer Copenhagen, Paris and London. That be on Fokker 100's, couple Boeing 767s and 757s, Airbus and who knows what else. Airlines are Midway, SAS, Lufthansa, BA and 'Merican Airlines. When I get back, barr'n any buffer problems, I hope you can help educate on where you learnt so much 'bout aviation n 'lectronics.

Hmm, I seem to member stuff about buffers from my college days, lez see. In psuedocode:

RECEIVE COMMAND into Buffer If Buffer Overflow condition then request resend else move stabilizer up // :) couldn't resist! End IF

I dunno, lotz a beer them days in college.

Jest A dumb Ole Pilot who sez:

"I'm too stunned fer words"

-- jestadumb (old@pilot.com), February 08, 2000.


Where'd you come from all of a sudden anyway "just a dumb pilot"?

How much is Boeing paying you to try to distract attention from the real cause of these problems? That's a pretty funny little act you got there, but sorry to say, not at all convincing!

Boy, if everyone finds out that a lot of the Boeing flight computers have problems, they'd lose billions of dollars wouldn't they? Oh well, they should have listened to us!

I'll say one thing, it's gonna be really nice to be able to see the clear blue sky again, and not have to breathe jet fuel! :-)

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), February 08, 2000.


Hawk writes:

>>Where'd you come from all of a sudden anyway "just a dumb pilot"? How much is Boeing paying you to try to distract attention from the real cause of these problems? That's a pretty funny little act you got there, but sorry to say, not at all convincing! <<

Son, your medication prolly needs adjustin. Ain't no paid, (or free) spokesman fer the Boeing corp, but man, that would be a niiice gig. I'm sure glad yaz findin it funny, but I asurz you, it ain't no act.

All of sudden? Well, I must admit, I've been tuning into this heah debate for quite some time, jus' doin' my own reasearch, makin up my own mind. As a pilot, and a person who appreciates, studies, and works in the Aerospace biz, (but not fer no airframe manafacturer) I jus could'nt stand by any mo. Airplanes ain't fallin outtta sky no more than usual, y'all just be payin more attention. 1998 was the FIRST year that no US carrier had a fatal accident. My friend, this is an accomplishment that the industry can be proud of, and strive fer every year.

Look at some of them stats on NTSB site. Look at Mad Dawg incidents. I'd much rather be in a MD-80, or any other airplane (cept'n maybe an Airbus (jez kiddin)) at 31,000 (that'd be FL310 fer Cherri n me), then in my ol' Buick on the 405 freeway.

But, as they say, poop happens. We dum ol' humans ain't perfect, never was, never will be.

Hawk, I bleive I been more'n fair with you in our lil talks. I unnerstand where imma comin from. I have a hard time followin' yer arguements. I'va asked ya a coupla questions, but y'ain't never given me an answer. I swear, I respec' ever'ones opinions (well, maybe not Yankees (jez kiddin again)), I'm just asking fer some stand up facts on yer opinion.

Jest a Dumb Ole Pilot

Who sez: "I h'ain't 'fraid of the unknown"

-- jestadumb (old@pilot.com), February 08, 2000.



"I'm sure glad yaz findin it funny, but I asurz you, it ain't no act."

LOL!! You think I'm gonna believe that hick language you stupid troll?? ROTFLMAO!!!

I bet dollars to donuts you're the same asshole that calls himself "Liberal Hater", and both of you are the same moron troll that used to call himself "silver ion". I bet the sysops can confirm that with your ISP. Get lost, retard.

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), February 08, 2000.


Hawk,

You have this propensity to personally attack the writer with whom you disagree. Quite distasteful, really. It is quite obvious from your lack of response regarding my questioning of the source of your missives (warning: big word), and your qualifications to make such unfounded conjecture, that you really have the slightest inkling of what you are talking about. Tis quite sad, really, that you won't engage in meaningful discourse regarding the subject matter.

You prefer, and this is your perogative, to pronounce that, you, Hawk, have determined the cause of the crash of an aircraft with utterly unfounded information on servo drivers, which you have no idea if exists on the MD-80. Alas, Hawk, this is the world which you paint for yourself in your own manner.

Hawk writes:

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I am not anyone else on this forum, I am me. And I am a "southren boy", and I likes talkin' southren. I don't know why you feel so threatened by me, and won't engage in meaningful debate. Nor do I understand why the "sysops" should want to, or care to confirm anything with my ISP. Nor do I think my ISP would care to comment.

I feel I have contributed information, based on my knowledge of the Aerospace biz, that puts a learned perspective on the issue, not a sky is falling, mumbo jumbo, pictures of servo motors rambling.

Jest A Dumb Ole Pilot Who Sez:

"Ain't never bought more'n a pound a dried beans at a time"

-- jestadumb (old@pilot.com), February 08, 2000.


Previous post has HTML probs, reposted, sorry.

Hawk,

You have this propensity to personally attack the writer with whom you disagree. Quite distasteful, really. It is quite obvious from your lack of response regarding my questioning of the source of your missives (warning: big word), and your qualifications to make such unfounded conjecture, that you really have the slightest inkling of what you are talking about. Tis quite sad, really, that you won't engage in meaningful discourse regarding the subject matter.

You prefer, and this is your perogative, to pronounce that, you, Hawk, have determined the cause of the crash of an aircraft with utterly unfounded information on servo drivers, which you have no idea if exists on the MD-80. Alas, Hawk, this is the world which you paint for yourself in your own manner.

Hawk writes:

>I bet dollars to donuts you're the same asshole that calls himself "Liberal Hater", and both of you are the same moron troll that used to call himself "silver ion". I bet the sysops can confirm that with your ISP. Get lost, retard.<

I am not anyone else on this forum, I am me. And I am a "southren boy", and I likes talkin' southren. I don't know why you feel so threatened by me, and won't engage in meaningful debate. Nor do I understand why the "sysops" should want to, or care to confirm anything with my ISP. Nor do I think my ISP would care to comment.

I feel I have contributed information, based on my knowledge of the Aerospace biz, that puts a learned perspective on the issue, not a sky is falling, mumbo jumbo, pictures of servo motors rambling.

Jest A Dumb Ole Pilot Who Sez:

"Ain't never bought more'n a pound a dried beans at a time"

-- jestadumb (old@pilot.com), February 08, 2000.


Well you haven't been around here enough to know how these trolls work, so I may be mistaking you for someone else, but that just happens when people keep changing names. I don't mean to offend you personally, but I still have a hard time believing that someone who is seemingly illiterate could fly a commercial passenger aircraft. Cropdusters, yes, but I'm not convinced you have flown the MD80. You did say you were old, so even if you have, it was probably not one of these newer models.

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), February 08, 2000.

Hawk,

In all my posts, never once did I claim to have flown an MD-80. I explained what happens in a runaway trim condition, which is common to any motorized trim system.

Jest A Dumb Ole Pilot Who sez:

"Cleared to land"

-- JestaDumb (old@pilot.com), February 09, 2000.



off off

-- (off@off.off), February 09, 2000.

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