OT, Negative Article on Pine Ridge Today, alert to River et. al., link here will let you submit update to concerned parties:

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WAS THE FBI-INDIAN STANDOFF A HOAX?

Posted By: Posted by Rayelan

Date: Monday, 24 January 2000, at 5:37 p.m.

FROM RAYELAN:

I have received two emails today which make me think that we have been the victims of a HOAX.

If anyone has the real story, can you please post it?

Following the email from Russ Michael is a letter from a woman who lives near the reservation where this "supposed" standoff was taking place.

After reading it, I think you will have as many questions as I do. Unfortunately, I don't have the time to follow up on this. I hope one of the RMNews Agents will take the time to do some research and let us know what the truth is.

Thanks,

Rayelan

From: russ.michael@vpn.at (Russ MICHAEL)

Beloveds-- looks like the original URGENT message needs to be retracted--thanks to swift and immediate action of "setting the record straight" by committed "reporters" in my network....As Pope stated--surely something positive will and does show itself from this quick alert. It shows people care--and that people want to know the real truth around every issue. "We are humans becoming--help us become!!" So be it! LOVE***Michael : :"S" wrote,

Russ -- I just received your "urgent" message about the "situation" on Pine Ridge. I live within an hour's drive from Pine Ridge, as this town is the closest shopping center to Pine Ridge; I have students who frequently go back and forth from there, and my husband is a law enforcement officer. I can tell you in no uncertain terms that much of the information in this message is untrue, despite the "reputable sources" quoted.

Since I also have friends on the reservation, I just called a friend who is Oglala Sioux/Cherokee who works in Pine Ridge every day. As of four o'clock Friday afternoon, January 21, 2000, he said there were no armored vehicles, no 200 Feds in riot gear, no commotion except for one guy running around trying to rile everyone up. There are Feds there (after all, all Indian reservations are under the juristiction of the Federal government, and when a confrontation does occur, it's automatically the "Feds" who handle it if it cannot be taken care of within the tribe), and they are undoubtedly armed (as Federal agents usually are), but they certainly are NOT in armored vehicles, and they certainly are NOT in riot gear. There is absolutely no way this could be compared to a Waco, or Ruby Ridge, or whatever, and it's inflammatory even to suggest it. Nobody up there wants another Wounded Knee I or II or III, or anything like it.

I myself took some high school students to Pine Ridge and to Wounded Knee on a field trip during the time this event was allegedly occurring (riot gear, SWAT teams, armored vehicles), and saw and heard nothing of this whatsoever. It did not exist then, nor does it exist now.

The aforementioned gentleman's boss is a woman whose father (Johnson Holy Rock) is an elder of the tribe and is the head of the Grey Eagles, an association of elders. This information comes directly from that group. The elders of the tribe felt that tribal funds were being misappropriated by the treasurer, who, by the way, is Indian, NOT white, and called for Federal help in obtaining the records so they could be audited. Notice: they REQUESTED Federal help to obtain the records for auditing. For a couple of days, one street was blocked off, but otherwise, it was business as usual in Pine Ridge. As usual, however, people like to get a small bite of the story and make it into a much bigger issue.

Please ask this particular source of information to check the facts and to be sure of them before sending out information that gives everyone a totally untrue picture of what is going on. All anyone has to do is check with the local media (try calling The Chadron Record 308-432-5511 for information). The Omaha World-Herald also reported basically this same information. Another source would be the Rapid City, South Dakota, newspaper (The Rapid City Journal, I believe). Also, another piece of gross information stated that this Reservation was near Sioux Falls. It most certainly is NOT.

Pine Ridge is almost as far west from Sioux Falls as it can be and still be in the same state. Also if the "Talking Leaves" person was supposed to be on the Reservation, the area code was completely incorrect for a South Dakota number.

If this "Standing Elk" person had his phone and email cut off, it was probably because he hasn't paid his phone bill. Nothing of any particular significance is happening on the Ridge at the moment, except that the tribe has asked for their records to be audited, a completely logical thing to do if a number of people suspect fraud.

It makes me sad to read this kind of thing being spread about on the internet because it makes me highly suspicious of everything else I read. All people everywhere are deserving of good thoughts and in need of prayer, the Lakota as well as all other peoples of the world, and I would certainly encourage everyone to hold thoughts that this situation, like any other, will end to the satisfaction of all concerned. Many people get their jollies from "fear-mongering" and spreading rumor and gossip, and this seems to be one of those cases. I have enjoyed many of your other postings,

Russ, but this particular one contains a great deal of misinformation, unfortunately. I urge whoever wrote the original posting to check the facts and post a correction.

S--------



-- Hokie (Hokie_@hotmail.com), January 24, 2000

Answers

http://www.eaglesup.com/news.html has some info (like a press release it appears)

-- John Galt (still@doom.er), January 24, 2000.

here's the info...have NO idea as to its veracity...

TUESDAY JANUARY 25, 2000 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Red Cloud Tribal Building, Pine Ridge Indian Reservation, South Dakota Today the Grass Roots Oglala Lakota Oyate celebrate seven days of sovereign immunity from the oppressive, corrupt Oglala Sioux Tribal Treasurer and members of the Tribal Council. The Grass Roots Oyate believe that traditional law supercedes I.R.A. (Indian Reorganization Act) government. They are exercising their sovereign rights under the 1868 Fort Laramie Treaty. In a January 20th tribal court hearing, Grass Roots Oglala Lakota Oyate (Plantiffs) v. Oglala Sioux Tribal Treasurer, Wesley "Chuck" Jacobs (Defendant), Chief Tribal Judge Patrick Lee did not ask the plantiffs if they wished to waive their sovereign immunity. Therefore, the traditional leaders claim that the tribal court has recognized the plantiffs as an entity, immune from removal, arrest, or prosecution.

-- John Galt (still@doom.er), January 24, 2000.


That would be good news then, thank you John!

-- Hokie (Hokie_@hotmail.com), January 24, 2000.

Sorry, I've been out of the loop as far as TB2000, didn't see your question til just now.. To answer your question--Yes someones trying to pull a hoax again. The situation is tense, but still peaceful.. No remakes of Waco, etc...Here is the latest email I have recieved from Grass Roots Oyate

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To All Responsible,

The subject post being forwarded over the internet making statements of "200 Feds in riot gear" and "armored vehicles" is FALSE! This type of inflammatory and inciteful mis-information is not only NOT appreciated by those occupying the Red Cloud Tribal office, but is also dangerous in this type of peaceful occupation.

The FBI were requested by the grass roots traditional Lakota people, occupying the tribal office, in order to obtain documents to investigate the mis-management of tribal funds. To state otherwise is complete untrue. You are damaging the efforts, not helping.

I would suggest that you all check your sources, before attempting to post anything in regards to the occupation in Pine Ridge, as it is understood that this post and it's claims have been brought to the attention of the media and will most likely have serious repercussions.

In Struggle,

Kathy Morning Star ---------

I would again remind all of you that as far as I know (after talking to the protestors by phone) Ishgooda@voyager.net is still the only valid source of information from Grass Roots Oyate.

-- River (Riverwn@aol.com), January 25, 2000.


Ish is the contact. This was the latest I have seen.

From: ishgooda@voyager.net
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 12:55 AM
Subject: Re: Pine Ridge

I understand an updated list of needed supplies is supposed to be forthcoming soon. things peaceful as far as I have heard..
Ish

I understand that they are in need of food, blankets, etc. in the Tribal Building. If I see the 'updated list' I will post it and also and address.

-- Blue Hawk (bh_silentvoice@hotmail.com), January 25, 2000.



Re-post, last one wasn't clear who said what. Ish is the contact. This was the latest I have seen.

From: ishgooda@voyager.net
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 12:55 AM
Subject: Re: Pine Ridge

"I understand an updated list of needed supplies is supposed to be forthcoming soon. things peaceful as far as I have heard..
Ish"

(My words)I understand that they are in need of food, blankets, etc. in the Tribal Building. If I see the 'updated list' I will post it and also and address.

-- Blue Hawk (bh_silentvoice@hotmail.com), January 25, 2000.


Latest News

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

January 24, 2000

Red Cloud Tribal Building, Pine Ridge Indian Reservation, South Dakota:

Today, as everyday, the "occupants" of the Red Cloud Tribal Building began the new day with prayer under the sacred pipe.

This is the 9th day that the Grass Roots Oglala Lakota Oyate did exercise their sovereign immunity rights under the 1868 Fort Laramie Treaty by taking control of the Red Cloud Tribal Building. The sole purpose is to protect financial records from the corrupt Oglala Sioux Tribal Treasurer Wesley "Chuck" Jacobs and members of the OST Tribal Council. Tribal Council mismanagement and mishandling of federally allocated funds have oppressed the grass roots people for years on this reservation.

According to the Oglala Sioux Tribal Constitution, the Tribal Council has the authority to remove the Treasurer pending a termination hearing. Since the first day of the peaceful monitoring of the tribal building, the demands have been consistent and straightforward. The first demand that is non-negotiable is the removal of Wesley "Chuck" Jacobs, Tribal Treasurer. To date, Jacobs has not honored his word to resign and the Tribal Council has not exercised their power to remove him. Consequently, there was a total "lock-down" on the Red Cloud Tribal Building today. Many employees did not return in to work because they support the grass roots efforts, still others are in fear due to threats received by corrupt politicians.

In a meeting today with the Robert Ecoffey, Bureau of Indian Affairs Agent and a mediator from the U.S. Department of Justice, the Grass Roots Oyate reiterated its position that mediation will not begin until the permanent removal of Wesley "Chuck" Jacobs. Mr. Ecoffey stated that, contrary to false rumors, there will be an independent A-133 audit of the Tribe's financial records at the expense of the BIA. The BIA has repeatedly downplayed its trust responsibility to the Tribe in the financial management of the BIA grants and contracts.

As of today, the OST Council remains in contempt of the tribal judge's order to appoint an assistant treasurer to carry out minimal day-to-day financial services for the Tribe. The Grass Roots Oyate maintains that the Tribal Council has had numerous opportunities to have vital services restored once the Tribal Treasurer is permanently removed from office. The "lock-down" will remain in force and mediation cannot commence until this demand is met.

The Grass Roots Oyate wishes to extend their gratitude to many supporters from around the world who have offered support and assistance in many forms.

For further information, please contact Floyd Hand, or Dale Looks Twice, Media Relations Coordinator at (605) 867-5303.

As with all posts concerning the Pine Ridge Occupation please forward to any and all interested parties

Wadv

Wild Horse

------- The above article is valid information...Now to answer the question about who is sending fake emails....

I contacted Ishgooda lastnight about some of the fake emailings around the net---Just to let you all know, any emailings recieved from Tndothb@aol.com, or Newshawk, or Norm Olsen, or FREEDOM NOW NETWORK are FAKE AND NOT FROM GRASS ROOTS OYATE! GRASS ROOTS OYATE IS NOT ASSOCIATED IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM WITH NORM OLSEN. He is head of a Militia in Michigan that is trying to use this situation to his/their own advantage. DO NOT beleive anything except information from Ishgooda@voyager.net.

-- River (Riverwn@aol.com), January 25, 2000.


I'm sure the BIA will straighten this WHOLE thing out. All these folks need, will be a 25 year supply of goods. Send TP.

-sheesusHchrist-

-- Will continue (farming@home.com), January 25, 2000.


Thank you River, for the accurate update.

Please do keep posting the latest details.

Diane

Note: prior threads relating to the story... with many twists and turns... but it shows... the truth will "out!"

EMERGENCY CALL UP FOR PINE RIDGE - This is not a drill
http://hv.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id= 002Nb2
-- January 21, 2000

Pine Ridge Indian Reservation * UPDATE * (good news)
http://hv.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id= 002MAR
-- January 19, 2000

The Ongoing Situation at Pine Ridge Reservation - Day Two
http://hv.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id= 002LoM
-- January 18, 2000

OT - FBI/Indian standoff at Pine Ridge Rez!
http://hv.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id= 002Kto
-- January 17, 2000



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