So why not get rid of your car?

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and ride a bus. If all the people who are yelling and screaming about how SOVS are ruining the world for everybody else would get rid of their own personal vehicles (especially people like Ron Sims who uses limos) then the congestion would go away. Just like if all the wacko environmentalists would give up all the modern conveniences we would have a much more sustainable environment. Imagine how the congestion would just disappear if all the people who keep screaming would put themselves and their entire families into the buses ALL the time.

Just think. Take the family of five to the mall to go shopping, see a movie and have dinner. No worries about finding a parking place, having your car dinged or broken into. What a life of freedom??

$10.00 each way and lot's of storage space for your packages, not to mention all the good times and fine company on the bus.

-- maddjak (maddjak@hotmail.com), January 24, 2000

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Or, you can just live where there's a theater and shopping IN YOUR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD and you'd never have to get on a bus to go to the mall in the first place.

Total transportation bill for a family of 4 to walk five blocks to the corner market and neighborhood theater: $0.

-- Common Sense (1@hotmail.com), January 24, 2000.


"Total transportation bill for a family of 4 to walk five blocks to the corner market and neighborhood theater: $0. "

Except someone brings them their food, someone brings them their pharmaceuticals, their beverages, their clothes, their shoes, someone brings them everything, up to and including the movie they watch. And roads are required to maintain their lights, their sewage, their telephones, their natural gas. The fact that you don't see the logistics requirements of your life style doesn't mean they aren't there! It just means that you lack the knowledge or insight required to see them.

If you want to be "one with nature" you need to live a rural existence, although even the Amish have a transportation requirement. They just fulfill theirs with horse drawn vehicles (http://www.amishfarmandhouse.com/). For complete freedom from vehicular transportation requirements, try this site: http://archnet.uconn.edu/archnet/software/for20.html

The REALITY CS, is not your perception. The REALITY is that the higher the concentration of humans, the GREATER the logistics requirement.

-- (craigcar@crosswinds.net), January 24, 2000.


CS

You want to ride the bus CS? No one here is trying to prevent that. (OK, maybe one or two might.) Most of us just want you to pay more of the cost, and for Transit to be more cost efficient.

You want to impose your will on us. Force us onto Transit or move closer to where we work? What about Matthew? Why are you not attacking MR. I live in Gig Harbor and commute to Seattle, pay my way please Matthew? Where is your lecture to him? Hippocrit!

I think perhaps you are both unreasonable.

-- Marsha (acorn_nut@hotmail.com), January 24, 2000.


To Marsha: Hey, I want transit to be more cost effective, too.

I'll make a deal with you. Cancel all expenditures and subsidies for the new Narrows Bridge, and I'll agree to cancel all expenditures and subsidies for ridesharing. Fair enough?

I'm really not asking anyone to pay my way. When I first moved to Gig Harbor, I was in a privately run vanpool. But the driver took a job elsewhere, and, lo and behold, Pierce Transit had a vanpool van waiting for me. But, amazingly, no one else in the private vanpool would take the initiative to make it happen. And, only a few are qualified to be back up drivers, but it is usually not a problem because of my high reliability. Although, even I take a vacation from time to time.

Honestly, I'm not asking for a handout. But, I do respect the right of the majority to tax themselves in order to subsidize ridesharing. I don't expect it or consider it a right.

-- Matthew M. Warren (mattinsky@msn.com), January 25, 2000.


Matthew states "Honestly, I'm not asking for a handout. But, I do respect the right of the majority to tax themselves in order to subsidize ridesharing. I don't expect it or consider it a right."

I hope the opposite is true too. I hope you don't have a problem when the majority decides NOT to tax themselves in order to subsidize ridesharing. It is good you don't expect it or consider it a right. I think Craig called you educable. Maybe he was correct.

It was well publicized and well known that Transit would take a big hit, if I-695 was approved and the voters approved it anyway. Is it a glimpse into future lack of support?

Roads have been neglected to long and I think the voters will support the Transportation Initiative.

As far as your problem with that bridge, I thought the concept was dumb back then and I still do. I voted against it and so did all my pals. Don't ask me to commit to something and not tell me what I'll have to pay. It's like buying a car, taking it home, and finding out three weeks later what it will cost.

-- Marsha (acorn_nut@hotmail.com), January 25, 2000.



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