I'll just wait for more refineries to blow. Then we should have undeniable evidence of the y2k wildcard.

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I still think y2k is going to put oil into a checkmate position.

-- Brent Nichols (b-nichol@ihug.co.nz), January 23, 2000

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I know it sounds crazy, but I still think the power is going to go out on Jan 1st, 2000!!! I really do!!!!!!!!!!!

-- Billy Vyper (billy_vyper@postmark.net), January 23, 2000.

Brent, if this is typical of your thoughts, then you are are a very sad person. y2k has done nothing to oil, and will not do anything in future. It's over.....

-- Mr. Sane (hhh@home.com), January 23, 2000.

Mr. Insane

please explain the evidence in Marcia's exhaustive table...

you are out of your mind...

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), January 23, 2000.


Don't hold your breath Andy, typical troll attack.... :-)

-- Netghost (ng@no.yr), January 23, 2000.

Andy, could you please tell me where this table is, i'll have a look at it.

Best regards

Mr. Sane

-- Mr. Sane (hhh@home.com), January 23, 2000.



Here you are troll... hope you know how to copy/paste :-)

http://nckodokan.com/charts/crude.html

-- Netghost (ng@no.yr), January 23, 2000.


Andy, If that is "evidence" of anything, then your definition of the word evidence must be different from mine.

This table is a list of unsubstantiated reported problems based on data available on the web. From what i've seen in this forum, most of the reported problems had nothing to do with y2k. The raw data is obviously suspect.

How can anyone take seriously any reports on highly technical problems from Justpeace.org? Take a look at their website.

I'd like to see some real evidence, not this rubbish from crackpot loonies.

-- Mr. Sane (hhh@home.com), January 24, 2000.


Hey, if we investigated "real" data, then we would have nothing to get excited about right? (just kidding)

-- JoseMiami (caris@prodigy.net), January 24, 2000.

Mr. Sane,

Y2K related or not, we are looking at what could be a very real problem. What don't you understand about this? <:)=

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), January 24, 2000.


Sysman,

He is a Polly and a Troll...

Y2K related or not, we are looking at what could be a very real problem. What don't you understand about this? <:)=

All of it.. :-)

-- Netghost (ng@no.yr), January 24, 2000.



Brent,

an intersting presumption.

Let's take it a step further.

I seem to recall some kind of "flap" regarding the closure of any future date, registered predictions at ironic.com

http://ironic.com/y2k/index.html

Is that still the case? i see the last entry is in-part, media related

Request for Date Prediction :

At what date does "it" become Y2k?

a, armed forces, n, reactors, r, refineries, s, shortages, o, outages g, governments, f, finance, b, business ,p, public, and finally - m, media.

At what date, if ever, does any of the top ten info-moguls, via their top draw (rather, jennings, brokaw...), say "it's y2k related."

it seems the world was not as lucky as it thought, regarding the infamous y2k computer bug

today word was released that by the ___ regarding the cause of the

in yet another y2k related impact

ironic

Anyone?

Best Regards,

-- Tom McDowell (bullriver@montana.com), January 24, 2000.


Mr. Insane

Put together that evidence with the Price of OIL...

PLUS

You present YOUR evidence THAT THERE IS NO PROBLEM with refineries and oil in general...

YOU CAN'T DO IT!

Marcia has shown a graph going off the richter scale... what don't you understand about that?

Oil prices are also off the scale - ditto...

I'm sorry pal you are a complete waste of space

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), January 24, 2000.


True, Marcia has put together raw data, and it has some problems. But it's a start.

I will have to check out justpeace.org because the Y2K thing has made me very suspicious of 'information' coming from people with agendas.

-- Forrest Covington (theforrest@mindspring.com), January 24, 2000.


OK, Justpeace.org is catholic social left. Apparently they were into Y2K preparedness before. Not exactly Christian Reconstruction, but a little marginalised after John Paul put the kibosh on Liberation Theology.

One difficulty in judging the numbers of explosions past, is that her list covers precisely the time when the Internet went from a minority, alternate news source, to the primary news source on the planet IMHO. I read a newspaper every day, and they are at least a week behind on most stories I see on the Net. They mostly print the wire services verbatim about two days after I read them online.

However I think her chart is certainly suggestive of an increase, even accounting for the statistical skewing. It would be excellent if there was a way to establish a control sample from the pre-computerised industry, say, the 1950's. It would probably have to be adjusted for different factors like usage levels, but the problem is, who is going to go into a conventional library and spend a thousand woman hours doing the research? I don't think there are too many left who even remember how it was done pre-PC. Dewey Decimal System? Huh?

If there is a definite increasing curve in oil failures, we will soon see a website put out by industry watchdogs, investors, and environmentalists. These might get enough publicity to smoke out some real information from the industry itself.

-- Forrest Covington (theforrest@mindspring.com), January 24, 2000.


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