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-- (FollowingOil@dot.com), January 22, 2000

Answers

No problem. Here it is:

LINK

-- I'm Here, I'm There (I'm Everywhere@so.beware), January 22, 2000.

Thanks "I'm Here..." Much appreciated.

-- (FollowingOil@dot.com), January 22, 2000.

Thanks for the hard information. We'll have to wait a few months, apparently, to get any valid comparison to refinery incidents before the rollover, judging from the number of previous incidents listed at the site.

-- Forrest Covington (theforrest@mindspring.com), January 22, 2000.

I have been watching this forum since 26 December, 1999. Despite the pitiful name calling that was bantered back and forth, there was posted some interesting and certainly knowledgeable information regardong, not only Y2K,but, also, other important issues. Your recount was very important for all of us who are following the development of the 21st century. Thank you. If I can help...

-- Robert Moss (bmoss3@prodigy.net), January 22, 2000.

Mr. Koskinen announced in December that the ICC was preparing data on problems that had occurred in all the different sectors in prior years so that they could compare what happened after the rollover with what had happened before during comparable periods of time.

That data about problems in previous years may be publicly available. If anyone knows anything about it and its availability, please post that information here or start a new thread, better yet. Thanks!

BTW, according to a report from someone who knows, over 6000 reports of problems were received by the ICC in the first five days. It sure would be nice to get a full reporting on those 6000 incidents as well as on all of the incidents since then. It would be helpful to get more information about the actual reported incidents as well and to get the information well in advance of February 29.

-- abc (abc@ad.dc), January 22, 2000.

Abc,

You are absolutely right. Does anyone here know how to file a request under the Freedom of Information Act for that list to be published? After all, we all spent $50 million creating it, we ought to at least see the results of our tax dollars at work.

-- Jay Golter (JGolter@aol.com), January 23, 2000.

Jay Golter,

I understand that Public Citizen (Ralph Nader's organization) has a template for filing FOIA's. The costs can be prohibitive if you have to pay per page of information. If a reporter requests it or a non-profit organization or institution, they it can be "for the public interest" and you don't have to pay. This is my vague understanding, anyway. Ted Bridis of AP (in Washington) might be a candidate. (He was first to report the Navy Report story.) Please anyone, correct me, if this is in correct.

I have heard that the filing needs to be as soon as possible. It is against the law for anyone to destroy anything after it has been requested. So in this case there are two things that are needed. See my entry above.

-- abc (abc@ad.dc), January 23, 2000.

AS I recall, the ICC made confidentiality agreements in order to obtain information that could be privileged corporate material. It is unlikely these agreements could be voided by a FOIA.

-- Forrest Covington (theforrest@mindspring.com), January 24, 2000.