Can anyone give me a link to Steve Meyer's original post? Thanks (no text)

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-- Yan (no@no.no), January 22, 2000

Answers

Yan -

Thanks for asking: (here's the sequence of events as it unfolded.)

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FIRST POST:

SRM: Y2K...DID WE REALLY LEARN ANYTHING?

http://hv.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=002I7J

============ SECOND POST:

"OIL CRISIS?" THREAD:

http://hv.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=002Lfp

===================== THIRD RELATED THREAD: "Ron's Hotel on Fire"

http://hv.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=002MNo

====================== FOURTH RELATED THREAD: "Flame Wars, Sparks & Fun"

http://hv.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=002Mr2

=================================================== (To get a balanced picture of Steve Meyers)

30 YEAR GLOBAL ENVIRONMENTAL RESEARCH PROJECT:

WEBSITE: http://www.bashar.com/GSP

====================================================== These are some of the most important papers by Meyers:

WHITE PAPER: "Houston...we have a problem."

(Sent to President's Council On Year 2000 Conversion; and to the "House Special Hearings on Y2K and Nuclear Reactor Safety" November 1999)

http://www.bashar.com/GSP/houston1.htm

=========================================== Y2K GRAPHIC & VISUAL DRAWINGS:

http://www.bashar.com/GSP/door-y2kgrafix.htm

=========================================== "WHAT'S A PLANET WORTH?"

http://www.bashar.com/GSP/erthwrth.htm

============================================ "LETTER TO EPA" - (Industrial Hemp & Environmental Pollution)

http://www.bashar.com/GSP/hemp-epa.htm

======================================= "CORRUPTION IN HIGH PLACES: THE IRS"

or "How your rights were quietly ripped off"

http://www.bashar.com/GSP/sovereign.htm

========================================= That's about it. There is much more...much more. If anyone thinks this work is important, I need some help with funding so I can finish the project. We are running out of time.

"The only thing more expensive than education...is ignorance. As far as our environment, we are in a race between education...and catastrophy."

Obviously, I can't do it all by myself...

Sincerely,

-- Steve Meyers (SMeyers33@aol.com), January 22, 2000.


Steve, you didn't tell me you were looking for money when you asked for help. I just thought you wanted to get even for something.

I'm disappointed in you , Steve.

Now I'm wondering if that guy deserved what you did , I don't know if I can trust you anymore.

-- Darla (i'm@private.com), January 22, 2000.


good morning Ron-Sock

-- darletta (its@private.com), January 22, 2000.

Darla,

Sorry about that. Not sure what the confusion is about, or what you are referring to about asking you for help. If you can provide quote, reminder or context...let me know and I'll try to respond fully.

The truth? I've been working on that project for many years. It's been pretty hard for me to ask for help. Actually, it was pretty hard for me just to come out and say, "I need some help...I can't do this by myself."

If you read the article above, and if that gives you an idea about what we are all facing...well, know this: Yeah...I'm scared. I'm scared for humanity, I'm scared for future generations, I'm scared for what we are doing to other species, and rain forests, you name it.

The most disturbing to me were the recent ice-core samples pulled in Siberia; the recent report in National Geographic about the present rate of species extinction; the August 3rd, 1999 report from the UN on the state of the environment. Yeah...I'm bothered. Yes, I think if you read "Warning" at the GSP website, it's not just me that is concerned about all this.

Over the years, I've comiled the works of over 300 groups and individuals who have worked on global environmental issues. My website has only 5% of that information up. All the rest of it is sitting here. Yes, I need some help to get the rest of it up. No, Im not selling anything or have any hiddened agenda.

I tried to do that book, but it was a flop. I did that because many years ago I was very discouraged to find, from personal experience, that many of the environment groups were about as focused as what they were pointing to in the government...all kinds of hidden agendas.

So, I thought "hmmm...why not just get a product, sell it, earn the money...and you won't have to ask anyone for their permission to do what you know you need to do Steve." Lovely thought...but it didn't work. Spent five years trying to make that go...there is just no interest in that material, thought it did make $4.5 in Japan. But that is Japan, and this is here.

Its really simple Darla, and I don't mind you asking because so many people have so many hidden agendas. That's true.

But this is real simple. If someone can read those papers above, maybe "get the drift of what's going on"...yeah, it's humiliating to ask for help. But that's all it was, and yes, to work on this full time (which I have been doing for many years, and at a pretty great cost to my own financial well being)....yeah, its real simple. I do need some help; I've been very afraid to ask, becuase it hurts to be turned down, it hurts for people to dismiss all you have worked on and cared about...to come down your throat like Ron...just for suggesting the idea that something might be done...or needs to be done.

And you'd have to try it to see what its really like, to really know.

Yes, I'm hoping that maybe, maybe...someone out there is not desperate, is financially abundant, maybe knows more about how to do that than me. I'm a pretty good researcher...but pretty lousy at "marketing". And if you notice my website (Global Strategies Project) all that is there for free, for everybody, because nobody should be selling them information that has to do with their rights, or the safety of their world, or "marketing" them sound solutions.

They just need the information. There are alot of resources here, and I thought someone would have noticed by now, and so, I just decided, "Steve...take a chance. Don't be afraid. Yeah, they might shoot you down, but nobody can help you if you don't ask. Sit back, take a chance, ask...push the button. And Trust."

And thats about it Darla, and I hope you can understand.

No mystery, no hidden agenda, sitting on a ton of knowledge resources here (what a waste to not share). Just want to make it available. They will know what to do with it, if anything at all. It keeps me from going insane to at least be trying to make a positive difference, because to see what is happening in the world, after what happened to me as a child, is just too painful to sit back.

Real simple Darla: "There's too many children dying, there's too many Mothers crying." We have all kinds of solutions that are available.

G. Ford once said, "Don't confuse people's lack of caring...for lack of being informed." And I really believe that education is the key. And so I follow what is in my heart, and I've been very afraid to ask for help...for fear of finding out that people will not see what is here, and turn away.

So how's our world goanna change Darla? Our society is so disconnected, so far from community, so into competition, people shudder when you say "I need some help please..." We're not programmed to respond to that.

But its not "me" that needs the help. It's the project; that's the focus. The body of information...and it's not going to do anything just sitting, and yes, we are running out of time to make a difference...or many, many people will suffer...to say nothing about what we are leaving future generations, and I haven't given up yet.

Thats the truth Darla.

Why does someone asking for help, for something that counts and has value to all...why does that seem 'suspicious' to you? You think you could do it alone? You think you could hold down an 8 hour a day job...and then come home and do all the work you see at that website? Dont you think that someone who worked on something like that for 30 years might have even one nugget of something that would be useful to others? Any idea of how much time, money and expense it really takes?

Try it sometime...get a taste...and you tell me. Ok?

Yeah, sorry to admit it folks....yeah, I'm not a financial wizard...yeah *this project* needs some help. Real simple.

Go read those papers above...and see if I'm kidding. See the "Problems" section at http://www.bashar.com/GSP

Click on the red triangle logo at the lower left on the website...then click on the graphic that comes up...and you will see what the project is about. Its all there, if you have the time or interest to read it. I'm open to any suggestions that will move this forward.

With respect - and you have every right to ask,



-- Steve Meyers (SMeyers33@aol.com), January 22, 2000.


PS. Don't trust me...trust the quality of the work, and the quality of the information that is there. That will tell you what you are dealing with. Trust your intution, and think of your family and children, and what we are all facing here on this little planet together.

How are we ever going to do it, if we don't have a way that everyone can understand what the problems are, and what solutions are available? The whole key is education, listening to each other. Being curious, and acting on principle. I believe that with all my Heart.

bio: http://www.bashar.com/GSP/bio.htm

-- Steve (SMeyers33@aol.com), January 22, 2000.



Thanks Steve, stll trying to digest everything from your site.
Only 5%, boy the storage cost for all that paper must be something! (grin, from one packrat to another...)

-- Possible Impact (posim@hotmail.com), January 23, 2000.

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