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I'm in Rogers, Arkansas, and there a planes criss-crossing the sky, leaving white trails that are expanding and settling toward the ground. I've heard of this before, but seeing it is AMAZING! What's going on here?
-- Roger (email@example.com), January 13, 2000
evidently you don't have enough people sick or dying from the flu. they want to rememdy that. :-)
-- tt (firstname.lastname@example.org), January 13, 2000.
You're seeing something that's happened every once in a while your entire life, but since you've "heard of it" you've bothered to look up at the sky more.
You have a combination of upper-level humidity and temperature leading to the formation of persistent contrails today from normal commercial jet traffic.
Upper level winds are smearing the trails out and making them wider.
And if there was anything in them untoward, they'll "hit the ground" somewhere in Ohio, New York, West Virginia, North Carolina, Georgia, etc. depending on upper level winds for the past week. -).
-- John H Krempasky (email@example.com), January 13, 2000.
Yea, John we believe you. Whatever you say.
-- ~***~ (~***~@earth.ebe), January 13, 2000.
yes,... we received another dose this morning... they had already been hard at it when I left for work this am around 7:30... our weather was clear and blue, now (this afternoon) we have nicely drawn cloud formations, most would think they were God's clouds...I don't think so...
I have some great pics when they innundated the sky at my house late last fall (literally overhead for at least an hour, two or three planes, can't be sure).. low flying, lots of X's and "lines"... One formation was cleary two x's overlaid so the formation looked like a star.. it is totally unbelivable... when I show these pics to anyone, they say "great picture" and hand it back without question... more babies asleep at the wheel.. zzzzz.. ps. I'm in North Florida, my son lives in Sheridan, AR.. Best to you...
-- booann (firstname.lastname@example.org), January 13, 2000.
From: Y2K, ` la Carte by Dancr (pic), near Monterey, California My Chemtrails Page
-- Dancr (email@example.com), January 13, 2000.
check out this thread
-- cloudy (firstname.lastname@example.org), January 13, 2000.
Hi Roger! I'm up the road in SW Missouri near Shell Knob. I've been watching the con trails down your way all morning not being able to decide if they're Chemtrails or not. I'm a retired airline captain and know there is a difference between contrails and chemtrails. I think we're looking at contrails (condensed water vapor as a byproduct of combustion being frozen at high altitude). The temp and humidity have to be within certain ranges for the contrails to be as visible and pronounced as they are today. They certainly have spread out to make a cirroform (high ice crystals) cloud layer. Some of the web sites concerning Chemtrails have convincing data and photos. Not all of the photos, or witness reports have validity, as far as I'm concerned. I find the tic-tac-toe grid patterns compelling, as are a "spray pattern" from wingtip to wing tip and not just behind the engines. Playing with the weather? Mass innoculations? I haven't seen any trails behind aircraft down at lower altitudes as some say they have. Most casual observers can't come close to guessing altitude anyway, so I don't pay much attention to altitude reports. The contrails we've been seeing today I'm pretty sure are regular air traffic. Keep looking, I think something is going on, but I'm from Missouri. I want to see for myself. Glen
-- Glen Curtis (email@example.com), January 13, 2000.
Roger, Check out : www.contrailsconnection.com for recent pictures and health related problems people have been having. It is an interesesting site from across the nation,photos and descriptions of what other people have seen. Recently the HISTORY CHANNEL had an article showing how the Military/GOVT have been spraying the US for and since 1950 with various biological agents to see what happens to the public health. Very similar to the spraying of Florida a few years ago with MALATHION which all the news channels said, " Oh, it's ok ,you can even drink the stuff it's so safe". In the Tampa area they were sprayed for about 8 weeks straight, and the DC-3 that helped spray was parked on the tarmak at TIA airport in the hot sun ,which increased the toxicity of the chemical... But, read the label to Malathion and you'll find the only antidote for it is ATROPINE.... OOOPS !!!
-- Furie (firstname.lastname@example.org), January 13, 2000.
We are trying to eradicate Gary North.
-- (workin@Orkin.pests), January 13, 2000.
Warfare Chemicals being Tested
The strange-looking streaks in the sky aren't your imagination. They are anti-bacteriological warfare chemicals being tested by the federal government. And the public has been kept in the dark.
Exclusive To The SPOTLIGHT, By Mike Blair
The Pentagon, and possibly other federal government entities, is testing anti-biological warfare agents, which produce the mysterious "chemtrails" that are appearing on an irregular basis in the skies over many American cities, towns and rural areas, according to a scientific researcher in an exclusive interview with The SPOTLIGHT.
An Air Force veteran, who while on active duty was attached to the nation's top secret National Security Agency (NSA), presents compelling evidence that the Pentagon is using regular Air Force and Air Force National Guard aircraft to release anti-bacteriological warfare chemicals into the skies.
The chemtrails were detected some two years ago over central Virginia. They were initially reported nationally by The SPOTLIGHT. Since The SPOTLIGHT's original report, thousands of people across the country have contacted this newspaper about the tell-tale streaks in the sky.
Some casually look at the "contrails," thinking they are from a plane's engine exhausts condensing water vapor into a visible cloud. UNLIKE TRUE CONTRAILS
If you closely watched the trails over an extended period of time, you can tell they are unlike regular aircraft contrails. The chemtrails do not rapidly disperse. Instead they gradually spread out in a lacy pattern, ultimately forming what appear to be banks of clouds. Even after fanning out, the chemtrails can be readily spotted because the banks of clouds are in straight lines across the sky as they mesh together. Sometimes they turn an otherwise sunny day into one that is overcast.
The former researcher told The SPOTLIGHT that he believes he has tracked the chemical spraying to the "unconventional pathogen countermeasures program" of the top secret Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA). The agency has funded laboratory studies and tests conducted by scientists at the University of Michigan at Ann Arbor.
DARPA Director Lawrence H. Dubois claims the agency is "not doing any large-scale or outdoor testing" and he knows of "no evidence that [the chemical substance] is being sprayed from aircraft by any agency of the federal government." However, The SPOTLIGHT's source said he is convinced that DARPA is deeply involved in the massive spraying.
"After talking to friends in Congress, government and medicine, I have been referred to the University of Michigan and Dr. James Baker Jr., his nanotechnology oil-water liquidthe same liquid developed by Dr. Craig Wright, a scientist at Novavax Inc. in Columbia, Md.," the researcher said. "I speak for thousands of American citizens who are being sprayed by military aircraft and haven't a clue why the government is spraying and lying to them. They are very concerned in light of the present administration."
The researcher said the government is planning for a biological attack against the United States. Government officials have referred to such an attack as "not if, but when."
A number of Third World countries hostile to the United States as well as Russia and Red China are involved in massive chemical and biological warfare development programs. The government and its scientists claim that the chemicals being tested are harmless to humans. The researcher disagrees.
"Certain illnesses including pneumonia tracked the spraying effort across America but the American people have not been told about the project," the researcher said. "In fact, government agencies have deliberately lied to the citizens again and again."
These aircraft trails appear below 10,000 feet and do not act like ice crystals. Spray from aircraft are observed cutting on and off as you would throw a switch on the aircraft control panel. Grid patterns are painted in the sky with 'X' and circles are also painted."
According to the researcher, the oil in the substance being sprayed is responsible for "rainbow-like" colorations that appear frequently during the formation of the chemtrails. The "X" found in an area being sprayed probably marks the areas for satellite study of the dispersal patterns.
Government officials are concerned about a biological attack against the United States involving the use of the deadly disease anthrax, which several countries, including Iraq and North Korea, are developing as a biological weapon. Government officials also are concerned about the development of a pandemic outbreak of a deadly flu, similar to the so-called Spanish flu that killed tens of millions worldwide in 1918.
Recent outbreaks of a new flu strain in Hong Kong, which appears to be transmitted by chickens, has given rise to fears about a pandemic outbreak developing and quickly sweeping across the globe.
As it turns out, the chemical substance is being tested at the University of Michigan under Baker's direction. Baker, a professor of internal medicine, serves as director of the Center for Biologic Nanotechnology at the university's medical school, which is effective at countering flu viruses and anthrax spores.
The substance, called BCTP, is a milky-white emulsion of tiny lipid drop lets suspended in solvent developed by Wright, chief research scientist at Novavax. Wright is also president of Novavax Biologics Division. Novavax is a bio pharmaceuticals company.
BCTP is made of water, soybean oil, Triton X 100 detergent and the solvent tri-n-butyl phosphate. BCTP envelops the viruses and spores, causing them to explode and thus destroying them upon contact. The researcher told The SPOTLIGHT that he believes the Clinton administration is using BCTP as a countermeasure against anthrax, dead ly influenza and other potential biological killers. If, for example, the government instituted a full-scale anthrax vaccination program, the public would panic, the researcher noted. This is particularly true in the wake of a mandatory anthrax vaccination program instituted by the military, he said. Many critics are convinced the military is using an unsafe vaccine. "I believe the government is undertaking experiments with BCTP, a means of countering an anthrax or other biological attack without anyone being at war," the researcher said. "It is, I think, a case of 'what they don't know won't hurt them (it may help them).'
"But the point is, you don't experiment on the public without their knowledge and consent, or at least that is the way it's supposed to be," he added.
-- ribbitt (email@example.com), January 13, 2000.
Ribitt, go buy yourself a freakin paragraph break so I can read your post.
-- JoseMiami (firstname.lastname@example.org), January 13, 2000.
glen, a sincere question because you give a fairly plausible set of explanations--
so why didn't we see what some of us are calling chemtrails until the last few years or so???
if you believe that chemtrails are really harmless contrails--what changed in aviation technology to create more noticeable (longer lasting) trails? i have a good memory and i don't remember anything like this.
plus, how would you explain the chemical content of them as indicated by some of the subsequent analysis.
-- tt (email@example.com), January 13, 2000.
Glen Curtis: if you read my post last evening on a thread about chemtrails, you will note that living in the DC area in NoVA, I see many, many, many contrails daily, from not only planes using Reagan Intl. Airport and Dulles Airport, but from the many military installations in the area. I was also formerly wife of a USAF pilot who became an FAA inspector after Vietnam, and did a lot of "sky-watching" with him. I can tell you that what I saw last evening from 5:30-5:50 (and then went indoors, realizing this wasn't a healthy place to be!)over Fairfax, VA, were X's in the sky at a much lower altitude than the planes that fly constantly overhead, some of which were flying 'way above those trails I was watching in horrified fascination. This has commonly been reported by other pilots who've seen this criss-cross pattern in the sky.
-- Elaine Seavey (Gods1sheep@aol.com), January 13, 2000.
Been seeing some great ones in south central Kansas. I found this site yesterday. Scroll down a few inches and on the left side is 25 pages of multi-pictures. http://www.contrailconnection.com/index.html#Photos
-- Mary Jo (MaryJo_5@Yahoo.com), January 13, 2000.
Mary Jo, that site is excellent. Anyone who wonders what "chemtrails" are need only look at that first tic-tac-toe photo to understand we're talking about something "unusual" here. I've seen them twice here in NJ and both times, criss cross grids like that. Made us all terribly sick too. I've bookmarked that site, good find! -Kirsten
-- kritter (firstname.lastname@example.org), January 13, 2000.
Ribbitt, good post.
-- Hokie (Hokie_@hotmail.com), January 13, 2000.
good answer elaine.
-- tt (email@example.com), January 14, 2000.
I am trying to find information on a report I found on the Iea page thru a bunch of links to the kyoto meetings. I am turning up zilch on searches. can someone help me? It's called "Special Report on Aviation and the Global Atmosphere" It is mentioned in the meeting reports as existing, but I cannot find the actual report on the net yet. I am interested about contrail/chemtrail and the results of these reports. thanks
-- t.mcmillan (firstname.lastname@example.org), January 20, 2000.