"*" means status has changed in the past 24 hours--Hokie

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NRC OPERATIONS CENTER PLANT STATUS REPORT FOR 01/07/2000 UNEVALUATED INFORMATION PROVIDED BY THE FACILITY

REG PLANT NAME %PWR DOWN REASON OR COMMENT * # --- ------------------------ ---- -------- -------------------------------- - - 1 BEAVER VALLEY 1 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 BEAVER VALLEY 2 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 CALVERT CLIFFS 1 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 CALVERT CLIFFS 2 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 FITZPATRICK 1 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 GINNA 1 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 HOPE CREEK 1 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 INDIAN POINT 2 99 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 INDIAN POINT 3 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 LIMERICK 1 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 LIMERICK 2 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 MILLSTONE 2 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 MILLSTONE 3 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 NINE MILE POINT 1 100 * -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 NINE MILE POINT 2 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 OYSTER CREEK 1 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 PEACH BOTTOM 2 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 PEACH BOTTOM 3 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 PILGRIM 1 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 SALEM 1 0 01/06/00 Hot Standby * 1 MANUAL REACTOR TRIP DUE TO LOSS OF MFP CAUSED BY ISOLATION OF LP FW HEATER STRINGS - SEE EVENT #36567 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 SALEM 2 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 SEABROOK 1 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 SUSQUEHANNA 1 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 SUSQUEHANNA 2 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 THREE MILE ISLAND 1 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 VERMONT YANKEE 1 100 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------  NRC OPERATIONS CENTER PLANT STATUS REPORT FOR 01/07/2000 UNEVALUATED INFORMATION PROVIDED BY THE FACILITY

REG PLANT NAME %PWR DOWN REASON OR COMMENT * # --- ------------------------ ---- -------- -------------------------------- - - 2 BROWNS FERRY 1 0 03/03/85 Refueling DEFUELED -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 BROWNS FERRY 2 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 BROWNS FERRY 3 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 BRUNSWICK 1 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 BRUNSWICK 2 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 CATAWBA 1 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 CATAWBA 2 15 Power Operation * HOLDING POWER - MAINTENANCE ON FEEDWATER ISOLATION VALVES IN PROGRESS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 CRYSTAL RIVER 3 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 FARLEY 1 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 FARLEY 2 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 HARRIS 1 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 HATCH 1 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 HATCH 2 98 Power Operation MAXIMUM OPERATING POWER -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 MCGUIRE 1 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 MCGUIRE 2 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 NORTH ANNA 1 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 NORTH ANNA 2 100 * -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 OCONEE 1 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 OCONEE 2 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 OCONEE 3 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 ROBINSON 2 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 SEQUOYAH 1 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 SEQUOYAH 2 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 ST LUCIE 1 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 ST LUCIE 2 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 SUMMER 1 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 SURRY 1 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 SURRY 2 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 TURKEY POINT 3 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 TURKEY POINT 4 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 VOGTLE 1 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 VOGTLE 2 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 WATTS BAR 1 100 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------  NRC OPERATIONS CENTER PLANT STATUS REPORT FOR 01/07/2000 UNEVALUATED INFORMATION PROVIDED BY THE FACILITY

REG PLANT NAME %PWR DOWN REASON OR COMMENT * # --- ------------------------ ---- -------- -------------------------------- - - 3 BRAIDWOOD 1 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3 BRAIDWOOD 2 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3 BYRON 1 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3 BYRON 2 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3 CLINTON 1 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3 COOK 1 0 09/08/97 Refueling REFUELING OUTAGE - DEFUELED -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3 COOK 2 0 09/09/97 Refueling REFUELING OUTAGE - DEFUELED -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3 DAVIS BESSE 1 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3 DRESDEN 2 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3 DRESDEN 3 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3 DUANE ARNOLD 1 0 01/05/00 Cold Shutdown * REACTOR SCRAM ON SPURIOUS LOW RVWL DURING I&C MAINTENANCE - SEE EVENT #36565 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3 FERMI 2 93 Power Operation * INCREASING POWER TO 97% -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3 KEWAUNEE 1 97 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3 LASALLE 1 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3 LASALLE 2 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3 MONTICELLO 1 0 01/05/00 Cold Shutdown * REFUELING OUTAGE -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3 PALISADES 1 75 Power Operation CHEMISTRY HOLD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3 PERRY 1 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3 POINT BEACH 1 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3 POINT BEACH 2 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3 PRAIRIE ISLAND 1 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3 PRAIRIE ISLAND 2 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3 QUAD CITIES 1 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3 QUAD CITIES 2 90 Power Operation COASTDOWN TO REFUELING OUTAGE --------------------------------------------------------------------------------  NRC OPERATIONS CENTER PLANT STATUS REPORT FOR 01/07/2000 UNEVALUATED INFORMATION PROVIDED BY THE FACILITY

REG PLANT NAME %PWR DOWN REASON OR COMMENT * # --- ------------------------ ---- -------- -------------------------------- - - 4 ARKANSAS NUCLEAR 1 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4 ARKANSAS NUCLEAR 2 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4 CALLAWAY 1 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4 COMANCHE PEAK 1 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4 COMANCHE PEAK 2 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4 COOPER 1 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4 DIABLO CANYON 1 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4 DIABLO CANYON 2 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4 FT CALHOUN 1 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4 GRAND GULF 1 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4 PALO VERDE 1 99 Power Operation * REDUCED POWER FOR SG BLOWDOWNS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4 PALO VERDE 2 0 01/05/00 Hot Standby MAINTENANCE OUTAGE -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4 PALO VERDE 3 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4 RIVER BEND 1 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4 SAN ONOFRE 2 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4 SAN ONOFRE 3 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4 SOUTH TEXAS 1 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4 SOUTH TEXAS 2 100 * -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4 WATERFORD 3 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4 WNP2 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4 WOLF CREEK 1 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- * - REASON OR COMMENT HAS BEEN CHANGED IN PAST 24 HOURS # - NUMBER OF REACTOR SCRAMS WITHIN PAST 24 HOURS NOTE - REACTOR STATUS DATA COLLECTED BETWEEN 4 A.M. AND 8 A.M. EACH DAY. ALL TIMES ARE BASED ON EASTERN TIMES (ET).

-- Hokie (Hokie_@hotmail.com), January 10, 2000

Answers

Wow...it's been a long time since I've seen that report. I think it was about 8 or 9 years ago that I wrote a little software and a suite of macros that grabbed that report and did some formatting and so forth on it, for a nuclear-related company here in Georgia.

You don't post any analysis or conclusion. What's your point? You make a big deal in the title about every plant that is running at less that 100% generating level, so you SEEM to be saying "all is not well." Yet my memory of this report suggests that it's nothing terribly out of ordinary. For example: of fifteen reactors not generating at 100%, five of them are in the middle of refueling--powering down, changing fuel, or powering back up. A reactor running out of gas is not exactly a Y2K problem. Most of the rest look pretty standard: maintenance stuff on a lot of them, a couple of exceptional events that come and go all the time in the nukes.

If you have another conclusion to draw, why not make it? What was the aim of this post--to scare people with unexplained data? (Oh my god, 15 nukes have gotten bit by Y2K!) Because, if it was, I have to be blunt: I think that's a disservice to the community. The most dangerous and hidebound theorist is the one who claims "to let the facts speak for themselves."

-- Craig Kenneth Bryant (ckbryant@mindspring.com), January 10, 2000.

Craig, Hokie gave us some FACTS, you gave us NOTHING!!

Ray

-- Ray (ray@totacc.com), January 10, 2000.

Facts without context, without analysis, without interpretation are also without meaning. The original post trumpets "7 nuke plants aren't generating power!" Horrors! Maybe Y2K really _IS_ disrupting power supply!

Until you examine the report with a little domain knowledge. Even the tiny scrap of domain knowledge I retain from my time in the nuclear industry tells me that 3 of those 5 shutdowns are from refuelling outages--perfectly routine and scheduled months in advance. I also note that, of all these reactors at sub-100%, only two of them list an event number, suggesting that they're the only ones with out-of-the-ordinary trouble.

Facts are crucial--but only to the extent that facts are used to produce INFORMATION. And that was what the original post lacked utterly. No analysis of the number of reactor outages. No notes on whether this was high, low, or about average. No information on whether any of this could be attributed to Y2K. Just "7 nuke plants at 0 power."

-- Craig Kenneth Bryant (ckbryant@mindspring.com), January 10, 2000.

Here are some useful nuclear reactor links at the NRC Web Site:

Plant Status Report

Daily Events Report

Nuclear Reactors Page

-- snooze button (alarmclock_2000@yahoo.com), January 10, 2000.

Have you ever noticed when somebody posts something real like this,

An "expert" suddenly materializes and belittles the original poster?

Makes me think there is something really there and *they* don't want the info to get out of hand.

-- Swampthing (in@the.swamp), January 10, 2000.

Craig is simply unable to make a point without belittling.

-- (putz@R.us), January 10, 2000.

Craig is correct. This is a standard report. One reactor, Browns Ferry Unit 1 has been out of service since 1985 - hardly a Y2K problem. Reactors are often at varying levels of power for a variety of reasons. This report could look like this at any time, pre-2000 or now. I speak with 15 years in the electric industry, 5 1/2 at TVA, which has 5 reactors at 100% power on the list - Browns Ferry #2, #3, both Sequoyah units, and Watts Bar.

-- David M. Callis (davidcallis@yahoo.com), January 10, 2000.

Thank you, David. That is the way to make a contrary point while retaining credibility. Could you speak to Craig, please?

-- (putz@R.us), January 10, 2000.

geez, i can read and understand what "refueling" means, so i didn't leap to the conclusion that Craig feared. However, I AM a little concerned about what effects the (temporary) loss of seven nukes will have on the REST of the grid. If everything else is running at 100% to keep the voltage up, what happens when the next glitch occurs (whether or not it's 'not' y2k related)? And, then a coal train wrecks? On its way to a generating plant? And then an ice storm hits the high-lines? it's called the chaos theory for a reason, Craig. And, in some cases, you might be able to see it coming!

-- sheesh (get@life.org), January 10, 2000.

And as far as analysis goes, here's five minutes of analysis conducted at www.nrc.gov:

This post alerted us to a total of fifteen nuclear units operating at less than 100% power.

I pulled the daily status reports for this day (or the closest day reported) over the last three months.

Month # units at < 100% power January 15 December 18 November 26 October 33

So there's four data points, versus the one in the original post. If there's a trend here, it isn't towards trouble.

Incomplete analysis? Sure. But it beats that isolated 15, hanging out without any context. If I get bored later, I might do a better job--perhaps looking at 180 consecutive days and counting the number of 0's distinct from the number of < 100's. But I'm not the one suggesting that something is happing to our nuclear plants, and I don't think the onus of proof is on me.

-- Craig Kenneth Bryant (Ckbryant@mindspring.com), January 10, 2000.

---pay no attention to the critics, all you did was post a report, the shrill observations by others are just rude. Nothing from pre and post rollover is y2k related except for the anecdotal stories we are getting. People who have a ned to protect their positions will always over react, vast majority of folks here are quite content to look at any and all available evidence, measure it against what they personally are aware of, and come to their own conclusions. Nothing wrong with that at all. That's how human beings work. Y2K-to me-has shown just one tiny truth, that there are ZERO "experts". Yes, folks work in different fields, have expertise in this or that, but unfortunately, as this forum has proven over and over, two "experts" can look at about exactly the same thing and come to two different conclusions. Me, I go by past history in dealing with human beings and corporate entities-if a corporation screws up, odds are they try to pass the mistake on to you if it involves money, and it's never their fault, if a project is scheduled to be fixed by xxx date and cost xxx money, it's usually past that date, and costs more. Just a teeny rule of thumb to go by, that's all. Yes, our entire economic infrastructure goes chugging right on, but we have ALWAYS had serious customer service problems in any industry you care to name, the courts are always backlogged with civil suits, and companies never admit to any problems until they've been dragged kicking and screaming in front of congress, and even then they tend to "massage" reality quite a bit. Who the heck knows, for me, I'd be glad to have all the nukes gradually shutdown, to be replaced with more decentralization of power generation, with renewable resources. Sure, stuff would cost more initially, so what? How many people here are worried about their neighbors solar panels melting down and making their neighborhood uninhabitable? Just an example, but it's true, too. Decentralization and micro generation will be the next wave of power, it's coming sure as manure, the "old" ways are going to change, bet a nickel on that. And maybe a little more use of tesla rather than edison, maybe? h-m-m?

itain'twhytookay@makeyourown.juice

-- zog (zzoggy@yahoo.com), January 10, 2000.

David is a shill. Ignore his worthless drivel.

-- (steve56A@retornim.net), January 10, 2000.

Thanks, Craig, for a stabilizing contribution: the data is otherwise mindnumbing and -- especially to the uninitiated -- requires informed interpretation to be meaningful. Continue posting please. As a critic, you are much easier to listen to than some of the recent pop- ups. I.e. Mr. Krepasky.

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-- SH (squirrel@huntr.com), January 10, 2000.

The trend in the data suggest having as many Nukes running at the Roll as possible...kinda like Greenspan adding Liquidity just prior.

Now, those units must be powered down for refueling in time for the surge in Demand come Summer!!

-- K. Stevens (kstevens@ It ALL went away ten days ago .com), January 10, 2000.

Craig, for what it's worth, I like you. You may be a little blunt sometimes (can't we all?), but you're also one of the most logical, rational, intelligent people I've seen on this forum. Come to think of it, you're probably the only reason I still check in. :)

-- Rochelle (rainbowdrop@usa.net), January 10, 2000.

Craig, if you pulled your head out of your ass once in awhile then you'd realize this is a non-event info update for the board, who has already discussed the interpretation of these reports at infinitum, and now has the opportunity today to discuss again the interpretation at infinitum.

...oh, and FU you conceited pompus dickhead. Oh, and by the way, character analysis is my field, and so where I am qualified to perform "analysis and interpretation", at your request.

-- Hokie (Hokie_@hotmail.com), January 10, 2000.

Oh, and thanks Zog, always liked you.

And so sorry if the title frightened you Craig; maybe you should go change your shorts. Sheez.

-- Hokie (Hokie_@hotmail.com), January 10, 2000.

Help me out here, folks.

The link to the Plant Status Reports, as of NOW, 0051, 1/11/2000, currently links to a status report dated 1/3/2000, NOT to 1/7/2000. What the HECK is going on? Or am I imagining things? Can you say Revisionistic?

-- Spindoc' (spindoc_99_2000@yahoo.com), January 11, 2000.

You're imagining things. 0600EST, 1/11/2000

Status report for 1/10/2k lists 10 plants at 0 power (Limerick 2, Salem 1, Seabrook 1, Browns Ferry 1, Cook 1 & 2, Monticello 1, Arkansas Nuclear 1, Cooper 1, and Palo Verde 2) and one plant at 7% power (Duane Arnolde 1). And one more (Quad Cities 2) is coasting down to a refueling outage.

Of these, 4 are refueling or defueled, one has an oh-so-helpful 'Maintanence Outage' while at hot standby, 2 are starting back up, and the other 3 look to be unintentional (but not unusual) shutdowns to fix problems. Only one still has an event # listed (#36567, at Salem 1, if you're curious).

From someone not intimately in the industry, NONE of these are uncommon. I'm more impressed with how many are up and at capacity at the moment.

-- harl (harlanquin@aol.hell), January 11, 2000.

Oh, and Duane Arnolde is holding at 7% while adding auxillary systems. Sorry for not listing that. Palisades 1 is holding at 75% at a "Chemistry hold"- expect that to change in the next week. All the rest are 89% or greater, with the vast majority at 100%. For anyone still doing the math, there are 104 plants listed.

-- harl (harlanquin@aol.hell), January 11, 2000.

Is your power off?

No?

Then what do you care?

Wake us up when something happens. This is no news.

-- Servant (public_service@yahoo.com), January 11, 2000.