Those who prepared were NOT wrong!

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As we're all finding out just now there's certainly no lack of those who want to come out and crow about how wrong all of us survivalists and doomers were about Y2K.

Well, I'm here to tell you all for a certain fact that you were NOT wrong. To date, the Millennium Bug has been a non-event for the most part though we've yet to see what's going to happen tommorow (Monday, first day of the work week). In a charitable spirit I'm willing to concede in advance that will be a non-event too. It may even be that the price of oil (and thus gasoline, heating oil, LPG and so on) won't go up because of it. I'll concede it all.

So what.

Folks, there's 3.5 million people in France just at the moment without electrical power in January from one of the worst storms ever to hit Europe in recorded history. A couple of years ago there was this ice storm went through Quebec, Northern New York state, Maine and other states. Remember that? Remember how many folks went without electricity in midwinter because they had all electric houses?

There's a sight of folks still in North Carolina needing homes and replacement of possesions lost in the worst flooding ever to hit the state.

Weren't too long ago that a fair part of Texas was trying to wash into the sea from the flooding there. Couple of years ago Florida had its worst fire season in history. How long ago was the Northridge earthquake in California? How about the other major quakes?

Is there any state in the union that's immune from natural disasters? If there is, please let me know, the wife and I will quit our jobs and move there tommorow. Never mind man made disasters. Those can happen anywhere there are men.

Folks, these are the reasons you should have been preparing all along. We've known all along that Y2K might turn out to be a non-event (not that it is has been shown to be, just yet) and a one-time event never to repeated on such a wide scale again. So what? Natural and man-made disasters never go out of style. You have plenty of good reasons to prepare.

Let the fools crow. They'll be the ones come hat in hand to the shelters the first time the disaster happens to them.

.......Alan.

-- A.T. Hagan (athagan@netscape.net), January 02, 2000

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Ah yes, the meme must go on, for there is SO much more huckstering to be done... so many more sheeple to be fleeced.

Why quit while they are ahead, right Alan? People like Yourdon and North and Hyatt can make another cool million off germ warfare if they play their cards right.

-- (give@it. a rest), January 02, 2000.


Let's not forget Venzulea, Turkey, Taiwan, Phillipines, Mexico earthquake and flood victims. They would be grateful to have 1/10 of our stash.

-- ~~~~ (~~~@~~.xcom), January 02, 2000.

Alan...Thanks for a sensible reminder

'Give It A Rest'......I am amazed that people like you don't want to play ball with your own kind. It is obvious that you don't understand the rules of the game here and don't have the right equipment to play 'our' game. It reminds me of a group of children who are happily playing a game of 'foursquare' with a rubber ball, working out all their strategies for winning, and you come up and want to play with a baseball and a set of rules that don't work in foursquare game.....yet, you continually try to insert your right to play and want to impose your rules. Please go find someone playing a game that you could understand and enjoy. It isn't that we don't want you here 'lurking', but this isn't the playing field you should be participating on.

-- Kenin Marble (kenin17@yahoo.com), January 02, 2000.


I agree. But there doesn't even have to be a reason. We behaved prudently. No one knows the future, but has to proceed on a best guess.

-- Mara (MaraWayne@aol.com), January 02, 2000.

Yes, and as they are sponsoring a relief effort, one of our local tv news people said we can now send our Y2K provisions to Venezuela.

We might contribute to this effort as we have in the past, but it won't be our Y2K preps!

-- Lurkess (Lurkess@Lurking.Net), January 02, 2000.



Give it a rest....

Who did North and Yourdon make their cool million off of? I didn't purchase anything from them. You have it in your head that we are all a bunch of bumbling idiots who were fooled into giving up every last dime to a couple of crooks. YOU seem to be the most mis-informed of anyone.

And were all the prophets in the bible out for a cool million also?

Open up your mind and open up your heart. Perhaps then you'll see past your own nose.

Peace .... Cin

-- cin (cinlooo@aol.com), January 02, 2000.


It's not that you were wrong, it's just that you were stupid. The rest of us aren't buying your crap about "Oh, it's good to be prepared for emergencies anyways." Just go back and look at all the nonsense you jerks were predicting. When history looks back at this, you y2k crazies will be considered the biggest fools of the past century, people so frightened of the future that they could see nothing but doom and disaster. Try to remember the next time you want to warn us about something - you have zero credibility (see Chicken Little, the boy who cried wolf, etc.)

-- tiredofyou (y2kcr@zies.com), January 02, 2000.

That is really the whole point. Natural disasters are one thing, but all these other crazy FEAR stories were just ridiculous.

CHEMTRAILS

The NWO

Klinton's plan for a third term

Blue Highway Signs

Planetary alignment causing geophysical disruptions

the 9/9/99 scare

Comets and Coronal Mass Ejections

These were just a few of the stories that were posted, discussed, and researched, all under the mysterious shroud of the Y2K bug. If it weren't for Y2K none of these stories would have ever have gotten any air time at all. It's time that this FUD syndrome is put to rest forever.

-- (give@it. a rest), January 02, 2000.


Yup, I remember that story of the boy who cried wolf.

Seems that in the end the fools who mocked and who didn't prepare got eaten by the wolf, eh?

-- (4@5.6), January 02, 2000.


CME'S are real enough. Get your facts straight!!!!!!

-- John Smithsom (vgd38@hotmail.com), January 02, 2000.


wife &i only bought what we needed to survive in case something bad happened,we brought only what our family eats,not mre's and stuff like that.we usally don't have too much money after xmas&news year so we will just go on living our plain normal life.our kids never gave y2k a thought.boy just played video games,girl on phone.would not be the first or last time making a fool out of myself.family comes first. might not be over yet who knows for sure.to early for imformation that can't be covered up to be brought to light.

-- harry huges (daddyo57@hotmail.com), January 02, 2000.

Your right on AT Say it loud and proud your love for your family shows thru what you do.

-- davebullis (davebullis@aol.com), January 02, 2000.

Give it a rest, Tired of you;

You've demonstrated an ability with the personal attack. Tell me, do you have anything of substance to contribute?

-- eve (123@4567.com), January 02, 2000.


I am drooling to tear into our stash (got some premium stuff via triple-couponing), but having gone thru the Texas Oil Bust of the late 80s, I have a keen appreciation of how things can unravel.

I'm celebratin, but it ain't over yet.

-- lisa (lisa@work.now), January 02, 2000.


Ah yes, the meme must go on, for there is SO much more huckstering to be done... so many more sheeple to be fleeced.

Why quit while they are ahead, right Alan? People like Yourdon and North and Hyatt can make another cool million off germ warfare if they play their cards right.

(give@it. a rest), January 02, 2000.

Well, "give@it. a rest" you can choose to be willfully oblivious, that's your choice. One of the most ridculous things to have happened in this forum is this two dimensional all-or-nothing assumption that has crept in. If you prepare you must buy whole hog into whatever North, Milne and Co. are espousing. Sorry, we survivalists don't do that no more than all pollys have bought whole hog into everything the naysayers have said.

I've stated above the reasons why everyone should prepare and they've been demonstrated repeatedly here in the U.S. and in the recent past at that. If you want to ignore what FEMA, the Red Cross and your local emergency management agency advises that's your lookout. My wife is a classicist and she tells me there were plenty who laughed on the slopes of Vesuvius too. Should you find yourself caught in a natural or man-made disaster perhaps one of your better prepared neighbors will take pity on you until Uncle Sugar can get there and take you by the hand.

The rest of us choose not to be wards of the state.

It's not that you were wrong, it's just that you were stupid. The rest of us aren't buying your crap about "Oh, it's good to be prepared for emergencies anyways." Just go back and look at all the nonsense you jerks were predicting. When history looks back at this, you y2k crazies will be considered the biggest fools of the past century, people so frightened of the future that they could see nothing but doom and disaster. Try to remember the next time you want to warn us about something - you have zero credibility (see Chicken Little, the boy who cried wolf, etc.)

tiredofyou (y2kcr@zies.com), January 02, 2000.

More of this two dimensional crap. You prepared so you must be an acolyte of North, et. al. Sorry, doesn't wash. I made no predictions at all, not in this forum, not in the prep forum, the misc.survivalism newsgroup nor any other newsgroup or web site forum. I came into this forum because I'm a survivalist and there were (and are) a lot of folks looking for advice about those things I give advice about. If you don't like it, don't read it. History can worry about itself and I'll worry about myself. That is really the whole point. Natural disasters are one thing, but all these other crazy FEAR stories were just ridiculous.

CHEMTRAILS, The NWO, Klinton's plan for a third term, Blue Highway Signs, Planetary alignment causing geophysical disruptions, the 9/9/99 scare, Comets and Coronal Mass Ejections

These were just a few of the stories that were posted, discussed, and researched, all under the mysterious shroud of the Y2K bug. If it weren't for Y2K none of these stories would have ever have gotten any air time at all. It's time that this FUD syndrome is put to rest forever.

(give@it. a rest), January 02, 2000.

You do keep trying don't you? Sorry, if these things were posted here it's beause the forum moderators chose to allow them. Most of them are silly, some may not be. So what? Still doesn't change anything I've said. Natural and man-made disasters will still keep happening and folks will still keep needing to prepare for them. Not you though, you can go right on being oblivious.

I've been listening to the anti-preparedness folks debate against those who want to prepare for twenty years and the arguments haven't changed. Pick out the most loony tunes scenarios and use them to discredit all the rest. Do this in spite of the fact that every major media outlet in the world gives us all proof every day that preparing is just plain good sense.

If some of these folks only got into preparedness because of Y2K that's OK, so long as they keep their gear, rotate their perishable supplies and don't let their skills and knowledge rust. Their preparations will stand them in good stead the first time a real disaster comes around. Those who choose not to prepare will have to accept the consequences of their actions.

...........Alan.

The Providence Cooperative

http://www.providenceco-op.com

-- A.T. Hagan (athagan@netscape.net), January 02, 2000.



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