Anyone else noticed that we are in a _news blackout_ with regard to worldwide y2k ***NEWS*** [as in, real, hones, non-BS news]

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Last night's reporting by news organizations was nothing less than bizarre. As the date change began in the South Pacific, a parade of nearly identical stories came across the major wire services. From each country the same report, "We had a wonderful celebration, and the lights are still on." Period. End of story. New Zealand's OK? Fine. No more news from New Zealand. Great party in Australia, mate? Fine. No more news from Australia. On and on it went. Great party. Lights still on. News Blackout. At 8 AM this morning, Reuters filed a story indicating their headline writer didn't understand the basic concept: "World Completes Crisis-Free Millennium". So much for a thousand years of history. Only the Japanese had the honesty to report trouble, thankfully minor, at two nuclear generating plants. At the International Y2K Cooperation Center, only tiny Gambia had the guts to list their government computer systems as "yellow" while the rest of the world's nations show "green" in all sectors. So it looks like we are to enter the new year blind, and on Monday morning we begin what may be, in economic terms, the death of a thousand cuts. Later you can see the movie, "Revenge of the Nonessential Systems!" If nothing else, in data processing centers the world over, managers are going to remember that back in the farthest filing cabinet is a large stack of almost forgotten programs labeled "Year-End Processing". They were non-essential on Day One...

So what's happening worldwide???

Nothing, according to AP, UPI and Reuters.

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), January 02, 2000

Answers

To check for yourself,

go to www.drudgereport.com

and click on the controlled-media news feeds.

you'll know they are controlled-media because your BS antennae should start twitching...

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), January 02, 2000.


This much "good news" everywhere is simply not credible. It's improbable. When it seems to good to be true, it usually is.

The reporting we recieved on rollover, and are recieving continuously is nothing short of a controlled propaganda stream.

Alliswell, alliswell, alliswell, alliswell, alliswell, alliswell.

Look folks, on normal days we have more problems than this. Not a day goes by in the oil industry that we don't have SOME problems. A blow up here, a pipe stop there blah blah. That anyone expects me to believe that we're gonna skate through this cleanly is simply unbelievable. I am glad the lights are on and the refineries are running. Lets hope it stays that way. I for one would have liked to see a few things going wrong, that would have a little more credibility than the current spin campaign. After all, we lost one of our most mission critical systems, spy satellites, and didn't find out about it til after the fact. Not that I expected them to announce "Attention enemies of the United States, we are now flying blind, feel free to invade at will..."

However, the fact that the most powerful nation on earth, who spent bbbbbillions of dollars, blew it on probably "THE" most important of systems, shows that this thing couldn't have gone so smoothly in all sectors around the world. Not buying that story at all.

-- Gordon (g_gecko_69@hotmail.com), January 02, 2000.


I'm waiting anxiously to hear from a girl I know in Australia. She and family went on a vacation to a beach house the 28th...not due back till the 4th [her time] Also noticed at another place I go...a BBS not relayed to Y2k but that has peeps from all over the world on it and many times gets 10 or 12 posts on a busy day-it has gotten 3 since the rollover...2 from the states and 1 from Canada...Really starting to wonder what the hell is up....

-- Satanta (EventHoriz@n.com), January 02, 2000.

Tell me this isn't to good to be true for educational and spindoctoring only:

News Stories - U.S. Cuts Y2K Disaster Footing - Reuters (01/01/00) - Y2K Glitch Blinds Pentagon Computer - AP (01/01/00) - U.S. Y2K Money Stash to Be Stored, Used in 2000 - Reuters (01/01/00) - Trouble-Free Y2K Eases Worries - AP (01/01/00) - Microsoft Cures Two Y2K Glitches - AP (01/01/00) - Y2K Bug a Bust at PC Call Center - AP (01/01/00) - Postal Service Passes Y2K Test - AP (01/01/00) - SIA: Wall Street Ready After Minor Fixes - Reuters (01/01/00) - Banks Sail Into New Century - AP (01/01/00) - Private Militia on Alert in Denver - AP (01/01/00) - New Year's Passes, Fears Abate - ABC (01/01/00) - Early word on line: 'Whew!' - Boston Globe (01/01/00) - White House Stages Y2K Postal Stunt - Reuters (01/01/00) - Kennedy Space Center Clears Y2K Hurdle - Reuters (01/01/00) - Asia Breathes Sigh of Relief Over Y2K - Reuters (01/01/00) - North American Power Grid Clears Y2K Hurdle - Reuters (01/01/00) - No Y2K bug in sight, fears give way to fetes - San Jose Mercury News (01/01/00) - Y2K verdict: more glitz than glitch - San Jose Mercury News (01/01/00) - Y2K Problem Strikes Japanese Plant - AP (01/01/00) - Russian, U.S. Military Elated, Will Keep Monitoring - Reuters (01/01/00) - U.S. Oil Officials See No Y2K Disruption - Reuters (01/01/00) - All Quiet in 'War Rooms' of U.S. Techs - Reuters (01/01/00) - Exchanges Say Unaffected by Y2K Bug - Reuters (01/01/00) - Y2K Concerns About Banks Ease - AP (01/01/00) - Y2K Rollover Passes Smoothly - AP (01/01/00) - U.S. Timekeeper Leaps Millennia in Web Site Glitch - Reuters (01/01/00) - Well-Wishers Jam Y2K Bug-Free Phone Lines - Reuters (01/01/00) - At Y2K Center, Eyes on Clock and the World - Washington Post (01/01/00) - For Electric Utilities, No Big Shocks - Washington Post (01/01/00) - The Bug Didn't Bite - Washington Post (01/01/00)

-- Gordon (g_gecko_69@hotmail.com), January 02, 2000.


Keep searching for data, and bring them back here. The big picture is slowly emerging.

Godspeed,

-- Pinkrock (aphotonboy@aol.com), January 02, 2000.



I think ham radio operators need to search the bands and get some first hand..real time info. Skip the media lies.

-- Russ (aa2gs@isoc.net), January 02, 2000.

No question.

We are in a news blackout here.

No question at all - I should know because I monitor these suckers for 12 hours at a time.

"One of the reasons I'm so harsh on the media is because I really do feel that they are coconspirators in a Y2K suppression effort that values money and the status quo over human lives. I really do believe that media concentration has led to a deep sickness in the American Republic. These "journalists" are really too comfortable with the power, prestige and perks of being a part of the elite. The media owners are predator corporations that are only interested in screwing workers and maximizing profits. The journalists, even if they wanted to tell the truth, wouldn't be allowed to by their corporate masters. Y2K represents a direct hit on all this corrupt status quo. Instead of questioning and investigating Y2K the media simply fell in line and began parroting the government line.

These journalists are really much too comfortable at the President's picnics and celebrity roasts. The one time a journalist asked a nasty question at a picnic, in other words did his job, that twit Lockhart whined that it wasn't fair. Well, what is a journalist doing hobnobbing with the President anyway? I have a theory that the uglier the news became, the prettier the bearer of it had to become. Walter Cronkite, Chet Huntley, David Brinkley or Edward Murrow weren't the pretty boy anchors of today. Only a thought."

Doug McIntosh Dec31st 1999

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), January 02, 2000.


One of our local tv stations is working on a relief effort for Venezuela. The idiots said we could donate our Y2K supplies as they were no longer need. Yeah, right.

-- Lurkess (Lurkess@Lurking.Net), January 02, 2000.

I still have trouble believing the media are acting in such a controlled manner (although the past few weeks have been incredible) but, as a member of the system, have felt that they are simply victims of their own cultural hubris.

Regardless of the degree of control within the media, we must remember how important it is not to trash all journalists, but to continue to demand good journalism and to support the development of good journalists, one by one, to seek the truth. Without at least a few excellent, uncompromising journalists, we as a society are lost.

-- Oxsys (Oxsys@aol.com), January 02, 2000.


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I say this because I care.....take your medications!

Spin about lack of disaster so far is not spin you idiot, it is reporting. I know how desperately you wish for the world to end, so that the NWO aliens' plans for world domination will be thwarted, but those of us who have yet to be inoclulated by contrails wish to see the world continue, flawed though it may be.

-- Uncle Deedah (unkeed@yahoo.com), January 02, 2000.



Our local media (which were always Pollys anyway) are now having to defend government officials from charges they "hyped" Y2K and wasted the taxpayers money with the costs of the bunkers and the extra police and the fixing of state and local government computers.

Chickens coming home to roost--I love it!

-- cgbgjr (cgbgjr@webtv.net), January 02, 2000.


Uncle I take it you mean regular and copious quantities of Guinness - fret not, it has been arranged.

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), January 02, 2000.

Andy, I hate to tell you this but... All IS well!!

-- Crono (Crono@timesend.com), January 02, 2000.

They're not controlled, just lazy. Far, far easier to just publish the reports from Y2K bunkers around the world. Even the BBC, which has reporters all over the world, is only concerned with local utilities.

Here's a question you should ask yourself. If you were the PR flack in charge of press reports from a bunker, and you had a report of a "possible" failure, how much confirmation would you demand before you reported it as a real, honest to goodness, Y2K related failure.

Remember, you are a PR guy, with no technical knowledge. What is going to persuade you to stand up and say "Y2K for sure."

Hang onto those preps for a couple of weeks, minimum.

-- Servant (public_service@yahoo.com), January 02, 2000.


I hear daily from Queensland and Tasmania. They are reporting no problems. However, they will not be bringing up their systems until Monday our time..tuesday the 4th their time. Most systems have been shut down since Christmas. Aussies ALWAYS take two weeks at Christmas. Neither of my friends are in banking, computers, etc so all I will get is whats in their newspapers or personal failures.

Taz

-- Taz (Tassi123@aol.com), January 02, 2000.



Crono - where, in the journalists' [and I use that term advisedly] mini bar?

They are a disgrace... to their, uh, calling...

I've yet to read ***one*** story worthy of saving for the cat litter box.

Nope - they all answer to the big corporations and their expense accounts.

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), January 02, 2000.


Yep. "The Plan" is working to perfection!

The massive coverup is in full-force. Why, even now, those b*stards have me believing the powers on. Somehow, they're even running the 'net manually, giving the "illusion" that telecommunications are up.

Tomorrow, it goes into full-swing. Banks will be crashing right and left, but WE will never hear of it. System error after system error, but the slime will somehow keep it from ever becoming public.

What scum.

-- Hoffmeister (hoff_meister@my-deja.com), January 02, 2000.


Gordon, you said:

"However, the fact that the most powerful nation on earth, who spent bbbbbillions of dollars, blew it on probably "THE" most important of systems, shows that this thing couldn't have gone so smoothly in all sectors around the world. Not buying that story at all."

And of course, not a single cent of that money could have been spent effectively, could it? After all, we all know that money just gets sepnt for no tangible results, right? Therefore, that huge amount of money that was spent was wasted and couldn't POSSIBLY have resulted husge amounts of progress on the problem, could it? Therefore, you MUST be being lied to, right?

Tell me, when you hire a plumber or a carpenter or a doctor or a dentist, don't you expect that the situation you hired them to correct will, in fact, improve in return for your money? Why is it that you do not allow the same principle to apply to Y2K remediation?

-- Paul Neuhardt (neuhardt@ultranet.com), January 02, 2000.


Guys,

I don't CARE if there is a news blackout or not. As long as any problems that are occuring don't affect my family I JUST DON'T CARE!! I mean, isn't that why we all prepped? Because of problems that might affect us directly?

I'm NOT saying we are out of the woods by any stretch of the imagination since electricity is but one hurdle we have to cross (albiet a biggie) but really, I'm GLAD that nothing major has happened yet. And if it has, it hasn't had an impact on me and mine yet. If we continue this way I'll be one very happy camper...

-TECH32-

-- TECH32 (TECH32@NOMAIL.COM), January 02, 2000.


This has been the most obvious news blackout yet.

Is "news" only supposed to be about disasters? The whole world was watching and many expected major disasters. While it is true that no disasters occurred, the very nature of this event should have made the minor glitches newsworthy enough to report. Nothing. Absolutely nothing was reported about glitches. I use the word "reported" carefully because if one listened carefully, the persons reporting that all was AOK would use terms like "almost everything went without a hitch" and the rollover occurred and had "practically no impact." These are terms that beg for more info. Now we are beginning to see the stories come in small, digestable pieces from various news wires. These are all things that should have been mentioned immediately after rollover - not because they are big problems (many are not), but because they are Y2K related. Now many of these filtered stories will be filtered well out of reach of the masses. Also, expect to see an incredible amount of non-y2k related "coincidences."

But on 12/31-01/01 the whole world was watching and who wants to spoil a party with honest, in-depth journalism.

-- Bob (Bob@twocents.com), January 02, 2000.


While it is true that no disasters occurred,

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says WHO bob?

that's my point.

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), January 02, 2000.


Couldn't agree more. I'm in NYC - the whole city exploded in a giant nuclear fireball on Fri night, but did you see anything about it on the news? Nooooo!

-- david (not@here.anymore), January 02, 2000.

All of our power went out at the stroke of midnight, and has yet to come back on in the entire Altanta area. The net went down at the same time (no telling how long before we get that back), along with water and gas. None of the ATM's are working here, there is no gas at any of the stations in 12 counties, no botled water nor food of any type in stores (with the exception of several boxes of Twinkes in a QuickMart, and to top it all off the damn tracking chip that I had inserted into my dog is telling me that it's currently somewhere in Western Gambia.

Stupid media, how could they think that they could cover something this big up....

-- Bill (nothere@anymore.com), January 02, 2000.


My God some of you people are thick.

Dumbed-down Americans, sheesh!

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), January 02, 2000.


Be Silent... Quit talking, start researching, starting with the hazards of Fluoride. Try different search engines, look for Scientists papers. Then, you might want to move on to Teflon, then may your mind open up, and move onto other same type matters.

-- Open Your Eyes (fortruthbeyond@veil.com), January 02, 2000.

Yes Andy, you know everything, we dumb Yanks don't know shit, that's why you live here in this country, because you Brits are so superior to us....

-- Uncle Deedah (unkeed@yahoo.com), January 02, 2000.

It was those CHEMTRAILS, I tell you!! All that constant spraying of chemicals into the sky, night and day, day and night. It has had the effect of causing the MASS DELUSION that everything is working and that the first 48 hours of Y2K are non-eventful.

Which means I am merely BELIEVING that I am actually with electricity and on the Internet, typing this into a forum that no longer is functional, responding to a thread that Andy could not possibly have started!

And when I come out of this, will I find myself in an internment camp, the world under martial law, Klintoon the NWO leader....

C'mon Andy, Y2K so far is not even a bump in the road, it's more like a bug on the windshield -- deal with it!! And hope that the upcoming weeks are the same way.

-- King of Spain (madrid@aol.cum), January 02, 2000.

KOS, I have had been the benefactor of your kindness past Now look up , on this link about Be Silent. Find, seek out information for yourself. It is tedious. It takes grit to follow it through.

-- KOS made me (laugh@morethanonce.com), January 02, 2000.

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