While I am thankfull that the transistion went as smooth as it did, I still feel something isnt quite right. Its like that errie feeling you get before a major earthquake or tornado hits with out warning. I will be glad when wed gets here. My Gut says there is trouble ahead. It has never been wrong before. I am very concerned about the nuke power plant rollovers. Something doesnt feel right. I hope Im wrong about this. Something big is in the air.

-- y2k aware mike (y2k aware mike @ conservation . com), January 02, 2000

Answers

Well, Mike, no it doesn't feel right. But what will happen now? The nukes didn't roll all that well, if seven had problems...

-- Mara (MaraWayne@aol.com), January 02, 2000.

Yes, something big is in the air. It's called "The Planet's Atmosphere". Bwahahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!

-- Truk (truk@loa.moc), January 02, 2000.

Kike - right on dude - it has to play itself out yet. 1 trillion dollars wassn't spent for nothing.

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), January 02, 2000.

Mike, at first I was just angry about the whole thing and upset that I could be so stupid [I really,really prepped}. Now I'm starting to get the same feeling you got. Like a car balanced on the edge of a cliff. You didn't go over the edge and you think your ok , then suddenly the car goes over the cliff.

-- Gary (nada@rollover.gov), January 02, 2000.

Oops, Mike, sorry about that.

Watch banking, oil, JIT, imports.

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), January 02, 2000.

My opinion-

There is no way it could get worse than a 4 at this point. Obviously, the 600 billion the world spent on Y2K was effective in holding the utilities together.

What remains are mission critical government and commerce systems, followed by "everything else", ie: stuff that won't send us into thunderdome mode if it breaks.

By Friday, we should have a pretty good idea of the scale of the failures that remain, I think. If oil isn't flowing, or if computers aren't communicating correctly, that information will show up on various 'net forums and, maybe if we are lucky, the mainstream media might be brave enough to let us know about it.

Overall, we got lucky. We have infrastructure and we should be damned happy about it. Thrash the doomers all you want, but remember that they helped create the angst needed to propel us all to whatever success we attained.

-- Dr. No (no@no.no), January 02, 2000.

ANDY!!! Shame on you!!! "kike??" Haven't heard that term in a long time...just kidding...

-- Jess (alisaunde@aol.com), January 02, 2000.

Capricorn One?

-- O.J. Simpson (cell@block.D), January 02, 2000.

Yes Jess that's why I was quick to apologiese, yikes!

Dr. No...

My opinion- There is no way it could get worse than a 4 at this point. Obviously, the 600 billion the world spent on Y2K was effective in holding the utilities together.

What if banking fails???

Answer me that one please.

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), January 02, 2000.

SysOps, we have a phony here. The person named O.J. Simpson is using a fake e-mail address. It should be teflon@18thfairway.com.

-- Truk (truk@loa.moc), January 02, 2000.

Nyuk, nyuk, truk.

-- O.J. Simpson (u@found.me), January 02, 2000.

Andy,

Maybe I should have worded my previous post differently, let me clarify why I think "4" is the max based on what we know right now.

I agree with you, there is no doubt that a serious banking failure would bring on a whole new set of circumstances. I just don't feel it is in the cards. ATM's seem O.K., and the Saturday branches have not failed as of today. My "4" statement is based on lack of bad news only. I think we are maybe looking at economic slowdown at worst, some kind of correction maybe, but more like a recession than "Postman" type results.

The initial rollover went very well, and I am using that as a barometer for how I feel the rest of this might pan out.

I could be wrong, I'm just human like everyone else. I'm a printer, not a top-level programmer, so my opinion is just that, an opinion, not a prediction. If verifiable good or bad news comes available, I'll change my opinion.

-- Dr. No (no@no.no), January 02, 2000.

Andy,

Even a doomer like myself has had enough of your BS and abuses. Please take the advise of so many others and just go away so the rest of us can continue to discuss issues like mature adults. Please go away.

What if banking fails???

Right. What if the moon comes crashing into the earth on Monday?

Ill tell you what Andy. Ill bet you 1000 Oz of gold coins (thats if you even have that much) that a miniscule number of banking transaction might fail, say less than one in a million transactions. Ready to put your money where your mouth is? I thought not.

Unfortunately, I also bet that youll just keep cussing and not go away

-- Don (donald@duck.com), January 02, 2000.

You knuckleheads better knock it off or I might have to pay ya'll a visit, if you know what I mean.

-- Real O.J. (ontheloose@thelinks.net), January 02, 2000.

Dr. No - understood.

I just don't feel it is in the cards. ATM's seem O.K.,

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An ATM transaction is not ***complete*** until it is cleared and settled.

This is why I get so pissed off on these banking threads that nobody can be bothered to do their basic homweork.

The basis of the corrupt data problem boils down to the clearing and settlement (and not catching until it is too late) corrupt data.

This can take from 1-3 days or longer. 100,000+ banks worldwide start doing this Monday.

Not to mention Credit Unions/Exchanges/other Financial Entities...

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), January 02, 2000.

Don Duck - take a look at the BS in my inbox from your buddies then tell me to zip it.

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), January 02, 2000.

Hey, anybody here own a white Ford Bronco? It's blocking the driveway.

-- Truk (truk@loa.moc), January 02, 2000.

Mike, I agree totally. This isn't over yet, by a long shot. I thought it was just way too weird that there were so few disruptions, and some of the posts I've read here in the last 24 hours explain why - utilities going to manual, enterprise systems not doing their thing until after the weekend, some systems being shut down entirely, etc etc.

I guess the pollies can have the next day or two to crow. Personally, I'm not sending the jury home for another week to ten days yet.

-- Dzog (dzog@plasticine.com), January 02, 2000.

Mike

There were only 7 Nukes in the US and 3 in Japan reporting problems, and all of the more advanced countries Like Russia had none, so what's the problem... hold on a minute, that damn green glow outside makes it hard to focus on the keyboard...

There, took a handfull of hair and stuffed it in the cracks of the window.. where was I?

-- Carl (clilly@goentre.com), January 02, 2000.

Carl,
Very interesting point you just brought up...why are we experiencing minor glitches here with our nukes--and Japan--but NOT Russia?? I was under the impression that their facilities were the most sub-standard of all, in terms of safety, etc. Makes ya wonder...

-- Jess (alisaunde@aol.com), January 02, 2000.

Rumour has it they've gone manual wherever they can... Nukes? Don't know.

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), January 02, 2000.

Manuel is a busy little sucker this weekend...

Lots of overtime...

-- Carl (clilly@goentre.com), January 02, 2000.

Very droll, what about Manuelski? Manuelovitch?

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), January 02, 2000.

Andy...

Working for Putin?

Droll? Coming from the master, I'm flattered...

-- Carl (clilly@goentre.com), January 02, 2000.

He was only hired 'cos he knows a lot about com-Putin...

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), January 02, 2000.

Andy

Now THAT was Droll...

-- Carl (clilly@goentre.com), January 02, 2000.

y2k was a non-event( 0!) and the worst it will be is a 3 world-wide. It's over, and I'm trying to return most of my preps to get the money, to invest in the stock market. I'd rather be MAKING MONEY if I could help it. I've wasted enough time worring about y2k and now I'd rather go back to having FUN! I repeat: a 0-3 worldwide. The danger is over, so stop worring.

-- Crono (Crono@timesend.com), January 02, 2000.

More like "RAS-putin" Andy! And I agree it ain't over yet...

-- Sally Hemmings (286yrsinUSA@slavery.com), January 02, 2000.

Back down from this thread is a thread titled something like "I ought to come clean on banking" or something similar (I'm lazy, OK?). BUried about half way down, is a quote by Rubin's former second in command about Latin American banks. Go on down there and take a look. Then consider that while US banks had serious exposure to SOVIET banking problems the exposure there was LITERALLY POCKET CHANGE compared to the business they have down South of the Border.

When 60 or so percent of your assets go TU you have to balance SOMEWHERE and in banking that ain't gona be easy.

Chuck

-- Chuck, a night driver (rienzoo@en.com), January 02, 2000.

Sally :o)

You funny

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), January 02, 2000.

ComRadsPutin

-- dinosaur (dinosaur@williams-net.com), January 02, 2000.

Chuck: *me* posted an very insightful banking assessment regarding South and Central American banks. I'm keeping my attention open for any news of overseas banking problems. Remember that the Trojan horse was a foreign gift. Once accepted inside, the attack began.

-- dinosaur (dinosaur@williams-net.com), January 02, 2000.