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Midnight can be viewed as stage one of the effects of y2k.

Unfortunately some information may not be available from relatively closed societies such as china for weeks. Russia exists across 12 of the 24 time zones. It was good news that reactors in the first 2 time zones appear unaffected so far. Of critical impotance will be the embedded chips in their gas delivery systems. They are major suppliers to Germany etc. of fuel.

The second phase will begin next week when businesses and gov't agencies that are shut down now start up.

The third phase will play out as any effects on supply lines that will be reflected in company earnings in the 1st quarter.

The news so far is very encouraging, but it's not over by any stretch of the imagination.

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The reaction tonight of the polly-drunks like y2k pro, ddecker, lady illogic, Beano etc. was predictable.

The reaction of Flint, Hoffy and a host of others (you know who you are) - is pretty pathetic.

After all this time you would think that folks like Flint and Hoffy would not be crowing after 10 minutes into the new millennium on a large birds dropping in the Pacific that y2k had been beaten.

You should know better.

One wonders what you've been doing studying y2k for the last year or two.

Zero out of 10 for you two.

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), January 01, 2000

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true. I need to go to bed, been up sine NZ rolled over with only a two hour nap in between. I am starting to hallucinate. Happy 19100!!

-- Jess (alisaunde@aol.com), January 01, 2000.

Yes, it is just so tiring to have get into this EGO struggle.

Y2k is a number of complex variables, I'm putting my energy into isolating them. I hope others will too.

Y2k is an unfolding journey that has an unknown path. Got it? Get IT? Good! Now get over it! :)

-- Will (righthere@home.now), January 01, 2000.

Hi Folks, We are into the new year and it is total chaos! The south island of new Zealand is slowly sinking and all the people have gathered at the top end, lemming like, and are throwing themselves into the sea. At home here we are fighting off tribes of chemically enhanced bikie gangs who are roaming the country side raping and pillaging like a mob of demented vikings. They eat your family dog. Three nuclear power stations have melted down and six fingered children are being born as I write. Religious leaders have turned to human sacrifice to appease their Gods.

We are using gas to power the computer and I write by the light of a candle. It cant last too long. The wells have dried up and people are ageing at a rapid rate. Our members of parliament, led by the Prime Minister, have emptied the Treasury and scarpered off to a heavily fortified village in the mountains. Who knows where it will end?

Happy New Year to all of you in the USA. Hang in there, this may be just a dream.

Love

Barrie and Henni.

-- Taz (Tassi123@aol.com), December 31, 1999

Answers Boy, can anyone confirm the New Zealand story? This is hot stuff.

-- bob (bob@bob.bob), December 31, 1999.

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Link please?

-- Bruce (Bruce@Bruce.com), December 31, 1999.

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LOLROF---

-- boob (boob@boob.boob), December 31, 1999.

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Meanwhile in Australia, they're tossing shrimps on the barbies. I don't understand this thing about putting crustaceans on dolls, but, hey, I'm an American.

-- dinosaur (dinosaur@williams-net.com), December 31, 1999.

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Can someone please post info on how to power a computer with gas? I'm sure the 'juice' is going off here any minute and I want to be able to access this site. If a suicide bomber attack takes this forum down, will it start up somewhere else? I think shrimp means short people and not sea things. Maybe someone from down under with a gas powered computer can help us out on this one.

-- bob (boob@bob.bob), January 01, 2000.

-- bob (bob@bob.bob), January 01, 2000.

bob Not sure of all the details but I know you will need a lot of matches. You should check out 'Y2K FOR NEWCOMERS'. There is a link at the bottom of the page.

-- Gary (nada@rollover.com), January 01, 2000.

Bummer, we ate our family dog during a 'Y2K Drill' last week. Feel real bad about that. Boy is my face red now. Did kind of taste like chicken a little.

-- bob (no brains@all.bob), January 01, 2000.

Until we see Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamps, I.R.S., to name a few, operating with precision and dependability, we are very vulnerable to an economic nightmare. Government accounts for a huge segment of employment in this country. Add to this the incredible amounts of money that is issued into circulation in the form of benefits and such, and the truly amazing unanswered questions as to where the U.S. is at this point remain unanswered. I have viewed my preps as not only "meal insurance" against interruptions in the supply chain, but as an economic hedge against rising prices in the months ahead. I cannot believe I am alone in thinking this way. Interest rates are going to march upward; housing may well take a hit. Mortgage brokers will be doodling on pads of paper as they realize there is less and less business(to name but one example of an industry vulnerable to rising interest rates).

Most of the really important problems, e.g. Def. Dept., pipelines that were shut down (and may be pesky to restart), will be kept from public view as a matter of national security.

And what about the many computer viruses that may be running around, looking for infrastructure to disrupt? Seems there are MANY more things yet unknown to hoist a victory flag over this country and y2k. (The only victory so far is preventing massive public panic;well, there is the additional victory of propaganda over a national audience--YECH!)

2 very alarming things to me are: 1)The overall complacency of our nation(not going totally unnoticed by folks like China and Sadam) and, 2) HOW EASY IT IS TO STILL MAKE PRUDENCE TO APPEAR LIKE FOOLISHNESS! An extra comment on this 2nd point is the incredible amount of folks reporting they feel foolish and embarrassed. If you really want to feel/experience both of these emotions, then chuck your preps. and begin running around trying to get folks who prepared for NOTHING, to accept you back into their "fold of foolishness". Then, when fallout begins to become apparent, you will realize the true meaning of foolish, embarrassed, and UNPREPARED!

Just as the coverage of y2k was so incredibly shallow and simplistic in the press for the past few YEARS, so too is the thinking that we are over the worst of y2k. Just cuz my T.V. works, doesn't mean it is "all-clear!". And one night of CNN pics. of lights on all over the world hardly gets me feeling even remotely confident that things will not be "so bad". (This line of reasoning wouldn't work on a 6 year old child.)

The most unfortunate side-effect of y2k roll-over so far (IMHO) is the "innoculation effect" that is occurring among some who prepped. How willing will they prepare or stay prepared for the unforeseen yet not on this nation's radar screen?

In closing, I will add that this nation is in and will remain in a window of vulnerability for some time. Just as a cancer patient never knew the day, time and hour that a tumor began to form within themselves, so too this nation appears to be generally clueless as to our vulnerabilities to attack and outright breakdowns in necessary infrastructure that are now present. When rollover occurred, every unremediated line of code became a cancer cell in this country's economy. Whether the Nation's "immune system" of bug busters can heal all of these conditions, before they grow into a sizeable tumor remains a HUGE question, at least to me.

I therefore will remain ready to "roll with the punches". Old habits are hard to break: Why let CNN and the "crowd of fools" do your thinking for you?

-- (He Who) Rolls with Punches (JoeZi@aol.com), January 01, 2000.

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), January 01, 2000.

Andy...great post!

and for the rest...I suggested somewhere here in the past...learn from what you now know. Don't stop applying those things in your life. Keep your stocks/preps..renew them as you go. Teach your kids and freinds. Then-if something ever does go bad- you are ready.

Think about those people in Europe right now with the Winter storms that blew thru- you think any that survived that were prepared are in better shape than those not prepared? MidWest U.S. lots of tornados and ice storms- think the 'Doomers' will be in better shape or the 'Pollies' in the same situation when a major storm goes thru. Same with those in a place such as Florida with a major hurricane.

Think I'll continue to be prepped and keep prepped. Like the Boy Scout motto: Be Prepared.

-- Satanta (EventHoriz@n.com), January 01, 2000.

fascinating to watch human psychology of y2k. will be fascinating to watch in the coming months too. where is this world going?

one thing that was sad yesterday was as CNN was covering the great galas all over the world, they showed midnight in certain parts of Africa where religious and political strife and disease have obliterated the hope of these folks. to them, our idea of a Y2K at 10 would be a picnic.

-- tt (cuddluppy@nowhere.com), January 01, 2000.