Death by a thousands cuts. Lets face it, it going to be death by embarrassment come Monday at work! Im almost thinking of calling in sick to avoid my coworkers that watched me waist my time reading/preaching and investigating this non-existent problem!

Am I the only one that feels this way??

-- ray jones (rhwtech1@home.com), December 31, 1999

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Did you program the UTC/ GMT web page? (link below)

-- W (me@home.now), December 31, 1999.

Just tell them that you are absolutely thrilled you was wrong! Nothing to be ashamed about! Take it like a man!

-- ... (...@...com), December 31, 1999.

I kinda sorta do... but I stopped talking much about y2k months ago, partly for that very reason, & also because no one was really listening anyway.

I can take a bit of ribbing. Sure beats having to use the wood stove I installed. I would LOVE never having to use it at all, even if I take a big loss on it financially.

There are worse things than being kidded at work. Believe me.

-- it's not (even@over.yet), December 31, 1999.

If you thought New Year's Eve was going to be some kind of massive Y2K meltdown, then you never understood the problem. It is chronic, not acute. Any nasty problems that are going to occur will start on January 3rd when thousands of businesses boot up their computers, and they'll compound, error upon error, for the next several weeks.

Or maybe not.

-- cody (cody@y2ksurvive.com), December 31, 1999.

Ray, Why don't you just quit? Who needs to work with a bunch of assholes? That's what I did...

-- Robertis Paranoid (justwait@y2kdoomed.com), December 31, 1999.

I have already called in sick for the next week, as so to avoid any insults and the mocking. After a week most people won't remember what I said anyway, I hope... besides, I'll say I was really preparing to help the poor, and I'm giving everything away tommorow... So i can mock those still expecting problems...

-- Notadoomer (Notadoomer@anymore.com), December 31, 1999.

Please do not apologize for taking PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY...

I am reading all these posts on people conceding and apologizing for what? Excepting personal responsibility for the safety of themselves and their families. I have already seen a dozen or so posts about people looking for a scapegoat. What the HELL is wrong with you people!!! No one dragged you down to the store & made you buy a cart of tuna & rice. Take some accountability for your own actions. If you were 9 yrs old you may have a point. I have done extensive prepping and I will apologize to no one for caring enough about my family to insure their safety. Why don't you all cancel your car & health insurance, may not need them.

I am absolutely sickened by this flip-flop attitude. Hell next week your credit card will be rejected and then its back to costco for another 500 cases of Raman noodles.

We haven't even rolled over yet. Have your spouse slap you across the face & sit back and enjoy the new year. Hang on to your preps - you may need them. Watch what happens Monday & in the next few weeks, then make a decision. Please have some dignity and do not apologize for taking personal responsibility.

Death by 1000 cuts.

-- Toast (nomoretime@uhoh.com), December 31, 1999

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Well said!!! Couldnt agree more!

-- Rod (rspain@webcombo.net), December 31, 1999.

AMEN TO THAT

-- fatanddumb (fatdumb@nd.happy), December 31, 1999.

Apologies, I have none to give or get. I did and will continue to do what I think is my best interests. Especially when it come to my family. I too, am surprised that folks think we are out of the woods when we are still walking up the hill to the woods. Oh Well.

-- Michael (michaelteever@buffalo.com), December 31, 1999.

I agree with you totally Toast. Our family stocked up on food, water, extra fuel....we even put a hand pump on our well.....just in case. After a week or so if no problems appear, we won't have to buy supplies for quite awhile. No matter what the outcome......I like the secure feeling of being prepared for emergencies.

-- wetscat (wetscat@hotmail.com), December 31, 1999.

Toast,

'personal responsibility' is not all that's been going on here for the last year or so. Several people have been pushing TEOTWAWKI scenarios.. This was supposed to be the disaster, tonight.. except it wasn't. Many people did very irrational things like quit jobs, move out of town, spend every last dime on supplies based on this input.

This has been akin to a cult.

It would be kind of funny if the rest of the world is lit up like a Christmas tree, and we go dark. Especially after we dissed all the other countries Y2K efforts.

-- bryce (bryce@seanet.com), December 31, 1999.

Well said. Given the exact same set of circumstances (as in, if I could do it all over again), I'd do the SAME thing. Any astute, reasonable observor would. Add to that that we are nowhere near out of the woods yet.

Re. death by 1,000 cuts: Watch out for corrupt data, flowing freely into the system around the world, as we speak...

-- Me (not@here.com), December 31, 1999.

It crossed my mind that one of the deeper pleasures in life is to be prepared for a disaster that does not actually happen. You can have your preps and eat them too. I'd do it all again the same way tomorrow, if the information was the same. Better a live lion than a dead dog, as the saying ought to go.

-- merak (merak@sedona.net), December 31, 1999.

RIGHT ON, WE'RE NOT OUT OF THIS YET, NOT BY A MILE.

-- Tom Flook (tflook@compuserve.com), December 31, 1999.

A toast to Toast! Well spoken sir!

-- Ludi (ludi@rollin.com), December 31, 1999.

Very well said. As for the TEOTWAWKI scenario, I personally know of no one who has sold their homes and headed for the hills. I cannot speak for those on this posting who have said that, for I just started posting 2 days ago. However, from what I have read, no one is doing that! Even if that is the case for a few people, so what? It's their business, isn't it?

-- Mello1 (Mello1@ix.netcom.com), December 31, 1999.

Bryce,

These people looked at the data, they were not forced to move or buy things. Whats got me is the scapegoat bit. How pathetic do you have to be to dump your own accountability on someone else. It sickens me. I see the victim role everyday in my line of work. It wasn't my fault, they made me do it. Get over it people you made your own decision!!! Do not blame others for your own actions!!!

-- Toast (nomoretime@uhoh.com), December 31, 1999.

I think that preparing was a totally prudent action to take. Nice that we might not have a total end to our corrupt society. I'm found of it despite it's egregious flaws.

-- Mara (MaraWayne@aol.com), December 31, 1999.

True Toast, but's let's revel in the good news in that it appears that the grid and major utility infrastructure may stay intact. Thank God. If the financial sector stays together, I'll will be massively overjoyed as we didn't take our assests out of circulation only out of the market into govt. bonds.

BTW, I work as an air traffic controller in an FAA tower and I just got home after working the UTC roll over (a very important time for us) and everything worked as advertised in our neck of the woods. The radios, radar, flight data and weather processing equipment rolled right over without so much of a hiccup. Very good news as far as I'm concerned.

Folks, like Toast says, don't feel bad about looking out for your families. The only regrets to have are for perhaps any bad behaviour that has been displayed in the course of this most interesting discourse. For me personally, I will not be thrilled with cooking 90% of my meals at home in the next 6 or so months to deal with the pile of food but it's a small price to pay for safety. It's been fun.

-- Cathy AKA Ramp Rat (ldalcorn@alaska.net), December 31, 1999.

Preppers have only done what governments and corporations have done. We have taken action to protect our interests. I have no regrets about having a bunch of stuff I will use anyway.

All we really know is that the power is on. And I have no complaints about that.

-- semper paratus (ready@or.not), December 31, 1999.

Toast, congratulations!

I don't owe anyone an apology, or any excuse for being prepared. And as has been pointed out, it ain't over yet.

However, for some reason (and it's not fear or guilt for maybe being wrong) something just doesn't ring true for me with all this happy, happy, happy everything is fine spiel.

My decisions are mine alone. And living in the earthquake center of the world (So. Calif.) anyone that doesn't stay prepared in this area is nuts.

-- Richard (Astral-Acres@webtv.net), December 31, 1999.

What preps do you have that you cannot use? I can use every single item that I have purchased. I haven't lost a thing except for my time in preparing, but it was well worth it. I have learned skills that will carry me through for the rest of my life. I have met people on this forum who took time to share their knowledge and friendship, which is something that we have all benefited from. I agree with you toast, hang on to your preps they'll come in handy.

-- bardou (bardou@baloney.com), December 31, 1999.

For all of us in this FAMILY, we say RIGHT ON! And, yes, that was a shout!

I have posted on this forum for well over a year - sometimes under a real name and email address and sometimes not. I have posted, lurked, steamed, laughed and cussed out the likes of some of you polly idiots like Y2K Pro, with or without typing.

Responsibility for the mature adult, is to consider the real safety risks of not preparing - given the possiblility of untruths from government, commerce (the likes of Microsoft who posted over 500 Y2K bug fixes for various software in the past 30 days), etc. If this thing turns out to be a 'non event', then so be it. But, at least, the four folks I am responsible for are safe tonight, and will be if the s**t does hit the fan!!! How many of you polly fools can say that? If we're wrong, then we'll burn the gasoline in the cars, eat the food and give the excess to charity, if called for. What the Hell will you pollies do, except say we were wrong?

-- TruthSeeker (truthseeker@ seektruth.always), December 31, 1999.

-- ... (...@...com), December 31, 1999.

I certainly hope so. You should not be so weak minded in your convictions. This is not about being embarrassed -- this is about decision making for survival. Why did you set yourself up for the work scenario if you were not willing to stand up for yourself? Why discuss your plans with others who were not going to be convinced by anything that you said anyway? I don't understand this kind of thinking, I really don't. Furthermore, if you went about ranting about the sky is falling, without the necessary research and facts, then maybe you deserve to be ashamed. Those who stand for nothing fall for everything. Take your stand and don't be ashamed of it! Right or wrong!

-- Mello1 (Mello1@ix.netcom.com), December 31, 1999.

I think you will find that these people claiming that they will be Soooo embarrassed at work on Monday are TROLLS,doing what trolls do best

Nobody who has had the foresight to prepare would be bailing before the roll-over has even finished

-- (.@...), December 31, 1999.

I am now prepared for a major earthquake. And I hope it never comes! =0)

-- cin (cinlooo@aol.com), December 31, 1999.

be glad that there is no event that makes it right to say "I told you so"

true enough that all the cards have not been shown, but appreciate the fact that life as you know it is still as it is.

honestly and ethically

vgn

-- V. Gregg Nolan (ooua@cfos.com), December 31, 1999.

Yes, Ray, I feel VERY sick to my stomach!! I can NOT believe I fell for all the hype. What a waste of time!!! I'm going to go to bed at 10pm tonight and hopefully be sleeping before the year 2000 arrives. I expect to get up tomorrow morning, plug in my coffee pot like I always do on Saturday morning and wonder what the next "crisis" will be for next year. Then, when I hear what it is, I'm going to laugh in the face of the person that tells me and assure them that EVERYTHING WILL BE ALRIGHT, just like I was assured with this y2k "bug". Oh how I wish I would have listened!!

-- Gullible (ifeeldumb@aol.com), December 31, 1999.

LL took communication classes????!!!!! Boy I hope you didn't pay for that.

-- Nikoli Krushev (doomsday@y2000.com), December 31, 1999.

LadyL -- it is statements like yours that has me convinced that no one is willing to take personal accountability anymore. You work through your pain and face it, not apologize for it. You stand up and face your doubters instead of becoming like sheep. Group think? I think for myself and myself only. I don't need anyone to do my thinking for me. I'm sorry to see that there are those that do.

-- Mello1 (Mello1@ix.netcom.com), December 31, 1999.

Well, I know its probably really selfish of me but I was kinda disappointed that nothing has happened. I was looking forward to the challenge of a new way of life if only for a short time and maybe a reason not to have to go into work on Monday even though I like my job. I couldn't care less what my co-workers think of my preparations. I'm sure they will rub it in but that doesn't bother me. Most people spend most of their time thinking about themselves and little time thinking of you.

-- dixie (dixiespawn@msn.com), December 31, 1999.

True, honest GI's are *not* pussies. Every one of these "poor pitiful me" posts are being planted.

Toast is correct.

-- Will continue (farming@home.com), December 31, 1999.

Well if any of those poor pitiful gullible me, I feel soooo stupid post are for real- my e-mail addy is for real too. Just contact me and I'll give you my home address. you can ship me all that stuff you regret buying- you know, the tuna and rice, and wood stove and oh yeah- the generator. It'll be hard- but I'll find a way to use it all....sigh...just a public service for you humiliated ones (get it together will ya)

-- farmer (hillsidefarm@drbs.com), December 31, 1999.

Ray, it seems to me you have two choices: (1) take LadyLogic's advice, or (2) tell them to kiss your ass. I suggest #2.

-- Peter Errington (petere@ricochet.net), December 31, 1999.