Hey! Check the "roll call" thread: Info about power going down in GA!

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"April" from GA said she got an email from GA state troopers: GA power will go down on new years, no telling how long or even if it will be back up. FWIW

-- Little Pig (littlepig@brickhouse.com), December 29, 1999

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Interesting the way things get twisted in the relay - This is a FOF item - just to get it straight - I received an email from a close friend who was told by co-worker - her husband is State Patrol -and he received notice from GA Power - going down - don't know how long or if they will get it back up.

-- April (Alwzapril@home.com), December 29, 1999.

ps: didn't post this to be sensational - just warning those in GA to get your heat and light alternatives ready.

-- April (Alwzapril@home.com), December 29, 1999.

Whoops. Hope I didn't make it sound more alarming than it is (which is bad enough).

-- Little Pig (littlepig@brickhouse.com), December 29, 1999.

April: Just to be sure: in the original post, you did say power would be down for sure? Not just FOF, but definite failure?

-- Little Pig (littlepig@brickhouse.com), December 29, 1999.

As it was given to me - State Troopers have been notified by GA Power - its going down - the issue is -how long and if they can get it back up. The ramifications of this are mind boggling. It's one thing to debate it for a year but quite another to stare it in the face. Are you in GA Little Pig?

-- April (Alwzapril@home.com), December 29, 1999.


No, I am not in GA. I am in MA. However, if it can happen there, it can happen anywhere. I believe GA is part of the TVA, is it not? As far as I know, they are one of the most together power organizations. If power goes down there, it will be annoying, and possibly uncomfortable. If we lose power up here, it will rapidly become life-threatening for a huge number of people, due to the much colder temps. This is why I find this disturbing, and am now really interested in knowing whether the same sort of thing has been heard anywhere else in the country. The theory being, if one co goes down, it may be simply lack of effort. If more than one is going down, it likely means that the job was too big, and probably everyone will go down (at least for a while).

-- Little Pig (littlepig@brickhouse.com), December 29, 1999.

Lord called that one, plus that Whistle Blower gov chick that got canned or something. I told my friend Amisha not to take a fed job in Atlanta; drat.

BTW, last night tv news reported GA, FLA, and Alabama were meeting today to discuss water (distribution?). Don't know if water probs secondary to power, or -- even worse -- water probs that can't be assessed or repaired until power returns.

Yep GA is in the top 5 I keep hearing re: probable ML. Guess we'll see in a few.

-- Hokie (nn@va.com), December 29, 1999.


"That's the night that the lights went out in Georgia"

-- Charli (claypool@bellatlantic.net), December 29, 1999.

Charli, LOL.

The sad fact is that IF it is true that GA is announcing a certain and indefinite power loss at rollover then mil will declare ML prior to rollover in that area. This is my prediction.

-- Hokie (nn@va.com), December 29, 1999.


Thought I was holding up pretty well. Now I have this awful knot in the pit of my stomach. Hoo boy

-- April (Alwzapril@home.com), December 29, 1999.


Hey Hokie, ML is 24/7 in that state already. They won't even notice.

-- Charli (claypool@bellatlantic.net), December 29, 1999.

Well, IF this is the start of it, then there are going to be millions of people suffering from this. And, not so much from the loss of electricity, but the fact that they weren't told anything in advance so that they might make some preperations.

Isn't one grid connected to another grid?

-- Richard (Astral-Acres@webtv.net), December 29, 1999.


Hey Charli, you're right, my bad!

So I e-mailed their power company to heh ask for info re: best and worst case scenario on length of outage, area and plants effected. Shall I hold my breath? Wonder if their customer service info people have been informed of this status, if it is even true...

Here's the url if you know four or five hundred other folks who wanna know:

http://sccc.southernco.com/home.asp?co=gapower

-- Hokie (nn@va.com), December 29, 1999.


Oh, MY! I just heard that the city closest to us will definitely not have water. Now, to hear we will definitely not have power? Yikes.

Yesterday Walmart was a ZOO, and I'm not kidding.

Better let my friends know... and MANY, MANY thanks for the heads- up! I love this forum and all of your dear folks... and even don't mind some of the not so dear folks... gp

-- georgia peach (the.patch@worldnet.att.net), December 29, 1999.


Listening to Jim Ammerman online/realplayer (10:52min), and he says a friend hacked the pentagram computer, where Sec of Def, Chairmen of JCS "US Joint Command" meeting minutes last month says they decided they will enact ML (use mil in concert w/FEMA to quell any civilian disturbances), but not "declare" it as ML until most Americans are disarmed, cause they are escared of us. Go figure...

Georgia, what areas in GA will reportedly be without water?

-- Hokie (nn@va.com), December 29, 1999.



Awesome! Charli Claypool...thankyou.

-- number six (!@!.com), December 29, 1999.

Charli, great free security check for your PC, I use this:

http://grc.com/x/ne.dll?rh1bi2l2=r054z3yj

Even lets you print out reports. Hope your phone's unlisted, cause folks that figure out your name can use the reverse look-up feature and get your address if 6 just nabbed your name.

.gov can just call bellatlantic I would think.

-- Hokie (nn@va.com), December 29, 1999.


Makes sense though Hok, GA has two big mother bases, Ft. Benning and Ft Stewart. Benning is "Home of the Infantry", Stewart has a heavy Armor Brigade thats RDF. Interestingly enough Benning, besides having the Infantry School, Ranger School, and Jump school, also has "School of the Americas" (read: foriegn despot training academy)there. If there was ever a state that the .Gov could be sure of maintaining order in, it's GA.

-- Billy Boy (Rakkasan101st@Aol.com), December 29, 1999.

Mornin' Billy Boy!

Hope I'm wrong. Ammerman's tape is saying our Marines did gun confiscation in part of Australia, so their troops "owe us", but that's the first time I heard that, so I remain sceptical... Freaky times @ hand though. I had no idea those divisions were in Georgia.

How are your boys holding up? Status quo?

-- Hokie (nn@va.com), December 29, 1999.


Little Pig - I'm in MA also, feel free to contact me.

Last winter, a feature of NERC's contingency plan was the possibility of a common mode failure, in other words an invasive type of problem that would affect many facilities across the board and therefore jeopardize the grid. That specific emphasis was not in NERC's updated contingency plan last I saw. I don't know if it was removed because it was too inflammatory, or if they decided that embedded systems were not an issue anymore. I believe the solution is still part of the plan, to decrease relative demand in order to decrease the likelihood of energy transfers.

-- Brooks (brooksbie@hotmail.com), December 29, 1999.


Still haven't got in contact with the boys in 10thSFG or 5thSFG. @Hood, the guys are in pre-deployment after block leave for feild exercises, nothing sinister there. Over in Germany, no real news to speak of. The german army is getting ready to rotate through Hohenfels for 30 days of feild ex, 7th Army is quiet, and the gang back in Campbell are real quiet, (especially after the tragic murder there and all the media attention that went along with it.) Ft Leonard Wood has a minor alert escalation as the Chem Bio School is there, and they might be called on at the rollover if something wicked gets unleashed by tangos. Seems that all is real quiet on the .mil side of the house.

The only bothersome thing I got was not hearing from the bros in the Teams and Groups. But I'll keep trying.

-- Billy Boy (Rakkasan101st@Aol.com), December 29, 1999.


Link to thread which contains GA power outage please?

FWIW my understanding is that GA power was and has been running the the year 2000 for months...this is not good news.

-- nothere (nothere@nothere.net), December 29, 1999.


I'm in Cherokee county. FWIW, yesterdays AJC Sec. D article, "Ga. Power new year came early" has lists of #s to call if there are problems, and has a few tidbits I found interesting, particularly at the end. I don't know if this article is available online or not.

from the last paragraph: "Ga. Power and AGL have set up command centers that will be in touch with a national White House crisis center." "Southern Co. has scheduled a series of New Year's news briefings, the first one before noon on Friday when it becomes clear that the company's power plants in the Philippines have passed the Y2K threshold." "Ga. Pwr has transformed its storm crisis center in downtown Atlanta into a Y2K command center for Southern Co. Top company officials will be present."

also, "Dale Kilpatrick, Year 2000 project manager of AGL Resources, said testing was completed June 30. Unlike at Ga. Power, clocks will not advance to 2000 until midnight Friday."

The water article is on pageB5, same edition of AJC. "Alabama and Florieda sued Georgia over the issue in 1990, but the three states agreed to try to settle their differences out of court. Congress created two interstate compacts to provide a framework for the negotioations. The origional deadline for an agreement was Dec. 31, 1999, but the states agreed to extend it for a year." It's about sharing water from the Alabama-Coosa-Tallapoosa river basin, similar to issue on water from Appalachicola-Chattahoochee-Flint river basin.

From what I remember of the Flint issue, folks south of Atlanta don't want Atlanta to suck their water tables dry, particularly Albany, which is an artesian well city. They also worry about pollution.

Hope this info helps. Others, please keep us posted in Ga.

Mellowdog

-- mellowdog (mellowdogusa@hotmail.com), December 29, 1999.


Also, re: bases in Ga.

MCLBSA (Marine Corps Logistics Base Support Atlantic)-- located in Albany since HdQTRS Battalion closed in Philadelphia in 70s. It's west cost equivalent is Barstow.

It's a biggie.

-- mellowdog (mellowdogusa@hotmail.com), December 29, 1999.


I live in Gwinnette Co GA.(Atlanta suburb) Yesterday I was at a Gun Shop that is between Norcross and Duluth on Buford Highway. It is were most of the police buy their supplies in the area.

The conversation's I overheard while there were to the effect that a SWAT team and a team of LEOs were going to be at that point. The SWAT team would be there because it was the jurisdiction boundry or something of that nature between Norcross and Duluth.

One of the police officer's there was talking to one of the employee's working there and said that he was going to be on patrol but that two other team's were going to be at the Pleasanthill Rd Buford highway crossing and another at the Jimmy Carter Buford Highway crossing. One guy had ask if they had any .40 cal S&W ammo, and a woman working there said that no all the police had wiped them out.

When I finally was able to make my purchase I ask the woman waiting on me if they were going to have a SWAT team there and she said yes and told me why. I said that at least they didn't have to worry about anyone breaking in and stealing any gun's. She said that it wouldn't matter because they were going to remove every gun from the shop before the 31st. I ask why and she said that it had been reccomended that they do so.

The only logical reason that I could come up with concerning this was that they thought there was going to be a prolonged power outage. Now I read this post and I am really convinced this is the case.

Also a few month's ago I met a retired programer through a friend of mine and he has some long time friends that work for GA Power, and they told him to get ready that the power was going down come the first. He was in his 60s and said that he was heading out to his propery in N.C. I didn't see any reason for him to lie and he seemed very upset about this. FWIW

-- ~***~ (~***~@earth.ebe), December 29, 1999.


Do we have any other source for verification that power WILL be lost in Georgia on the 1st?

So far, the evidence is thin.

-- xraydoc (xraydoc1@excite.com), December 29, 1999.


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