ZHIRINOVSKY: WE WILL HACK YOUR COMPUTERS AND STEAL YOUR MONEY...

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Jubilant Zhirinovsky wants to hack Western computers

Updated 6:28 PM ET December 19, 1999

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia's maverick politician Vladimir Zhirinovsky, whose ultra-nationalist bloc looks set to do well in a parliamentary election, said Monday he would celebrate by hacking into Western computers.

Zhirinovsky's bloc was running at more than eight percent in early results compared with pre-election opinion polls which had given him some five percent. Asked by Reuters whether he would have a drink to mark his party's good showing, he said:

"No. No way, we Russians don't drink any more. We now work on computers, we use computers to send viruses to the West and then we poach your money."

"We have the best hackers in the world. We do not need to drink or smoke...We do not drink, smoke, have drugs and we don't have AIDS, that's what you have got in the West."

Russia is a heavy drinking nation which is struggling to catch up with economically-advanced countries on the use of new technologies, such as the Internet, but a lack of resources and poor infrastructure confines progress to big cities.

Zhirinovsky who has run and done reasonably well in all parliamentary and presidential elections since 1991 on a protest vote by lower stratas of the Russian society, is one of the most eccentric politicians with an acute political sense and bizarre sense of humour.

He has thrown juice at an opponent in a live televised debate, promised to wash his boots in the Indian Ocean when Russia expands there and been involved in fist-fighting in the State Duma lower chamber of parliament.

But at the same time, he has decided crucial votes in parliament in the Kremlin's favor and has developed a well organised party with solid assets.

-- (@ .), December 19, 1999

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I didn't realize the guy was still around...followed his crazyness in the early 90's but haven't heard much about him recently. Hope he never gets the power to back his threats.

-- More Dinty Moore (dac@ccrtc.com), December 19, 1999.

Yeah, no doubt the Russians will sit down at the console of a rip off copy of a Sperry Univac, fire up the 300 baud modem and launch a digital attack on us, if of course they can get a phone line that works for more then 30 seconds!Shut up and have another drink Vladi....

-- kozak (kozak@formerusaf.guv), December 19, 1999.

Kozak-

That's funny, but if this guy ever gets into power, you'd better get ready to dig a deep fallout shelter in your back yard. And that's no joke.

-- (cavscout@fix.net), December 19, 1999.


This must be a hoax. A put up job Mr. Clinton and/or his cohorts. It is so bad it's obvious.

Follows my "Blame Y2K on Viruses" theory. The media is not to be trusted here or abroad.

-- the Virginian (1@1.com), December 19, 1999.


Zhirinovsky is nothing more than another Puppet of the "CABAL". He is only doing his job. That being, to place blame on his people for what is getting ready to happen to our people.

If the Cabal can make you hate me, the two of us are easily manipulated into giving up our power of self-goverence so they can have their will done in our lives. Crucial to maintaining us all in ignorance is the manipulation of low emotion, fear, guilt, resentment, dislike of self and condemation of others which, in the end, are all expressions of fear. Once we succumb to domination by these emotions we succumb to the control of the "Cabal'. Balance=harmony. Imbalance=disharmony. If you want disharmony you need imbalance. This is one of 'their' fundamental techniques. We can see how they are using this technique everyday on this forum. Pollys -vs- Doomers.

They used religion to make women serveant to men with no opportunity to express themselves in their full glory. At the sametime 'they' suppressed the female polarity in the male by creating the blueprint for what a man should be. Macho and aggressive is what we call a real man (a lost and frightened little boy, in truth). Think about what I just said there. These real men were and are so delinked from their female energy that their intuition and connection with their higher selves is all but gone.

This truth is so obvious today, that the people must be very close to insanity not to realize it. All you have to look at to see this is the precious metals market. It being manipulated by friends and so called foe. China and Russsia are as much apart of this manipulation as England, Kuwait and America.

The only enemy of the peoples of the world are the puppett masters, the "Cabal". We can defeat 'them' by giving each other and all the peoples of the world our unconditional love. Our you capable of this? I know you are.

As Always,

May Gods Will Be Done in my life

-- flierdude (more@to.come), December 19, 1999.



Zhirinovsky has previously offered to help the Russian underpopulation problem by fathering a child in each province. He is also ready to wage a holy war to retake Istambul (used to be Constantinople when it was a Christian capital).

When someone is that crazy, you hope it is part of an act.

-- kermit (colourmegreen@hotmail.com), December 19, 1999.


"Soldiers are not ambassadors any more than ambassadors are soldiers," added Ratte, founder of the Rhodesian Selous Scouts and the man who ran South Africa's "Border War" in Angola against invaders from the Soviet Union, Cuba, North Korea and former Eastern Bloc states.

"I can't understand the Americans helping Red China. Chinese troops and weapons killed American boys in the Korean and Vietnam wars. Someday the U.S. will regret having betrayed the old order for the new one. Russia and China, along with Islam, will attack America when they feel the time is right."

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WARS AND RUMORS OF WARS U.S. to train 'Red Berets' America's Special Forces to teach Communist China's military recruits

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By Anthony C. LoBaido ) 1999 WorldNetDaily.com

Editor's note: It was almost a year and a half ago that WorldNetDaily first broke the story of plans for U.S. Special Forces to train the Chinese Communist People's Liberation Army. Now, WND's roving international reporter Anthony LoBaido updates this ongoing story with his exclusive eyewitness report from within China. HONG KONG SPECIAL ADMINISTRATIVE REGION, Peoples Republic of China -- The would-be People's Liberation Army Special Forces recruits sit in rapt attention, arranged in several neat little rows. Sweating under the fall sun, the young men sport white karate uniforms and crew cuts.

The Chinese soldiers listen intently to Master Fang, a recognized guru of the Chinese martial arts. Master Fang has spent a lifetime honing his craft, and now has chosen to impart his mastery to those lucky enough to have him as their mentor.

"God is nothing more than the masses of the Chinese people," he tells the recruits, who kneel silently before him.

"The Chinese people have literally moved mountains, built the Burma Road, migrated across the continent with entire cities loaded in ox carts," he intones. "Our physicists built our first atomic bomb using only the abacus for their calculations. Therefore I tell you, what the mind perceives, the body can achieve. What the mind of our leadership conceives, the body of a united PLA Special Forces can and must achieve."

Master Fang then holds up a large portrait of Lei Feng, the patriotic idol of the People's Liberation Army. Feng was an ordinary soldier killed by a falling telephone pole back in the 1960s, but his diary, filled with devotion to Chairman Mao, was published as an example of the finest character traits a PLA soldier can aspire to attain. The legend of Lei Feng has grown to unimaginable levels. He is now remembered as a combination of Boy Scout, philanthropist, social worker, cadre leader par excellence and spirited soldier.

"Lei Feng never had the chance to serve in the special forces. But his spirit can live on through your efforts," Master Fang tells the eager recruits.

His motivational talk complete, Master Fang claps his hands quickly and barks at the recruits in Mandarin. The recruits immediately leap to their feet, moving in a lithe manner and with great purpose.

The 27 recruits divide themselves into "teams" of three men each. Two of the aspiring special forces soldiers hold a two foot by two foot wooden board, about two inches thick, high overhead from opposite sides. The third "team" member waits for Master Fang's cue. When the Master claps his hands once, the bare-footed young man launches forward into a 360-degree somersault. Spinning rapidly at the 180- degree level, the young recruit hangs completely upside down in mid air. At this point, the soldier's heels smacks into the board, breaking it cleanly in two pieces. The soldier then completes his spin and lands cat-like on his feet, back in his starting position.

Master Fang nods his head slightly. It is all the approval the young man will receive -- or needs for that matter.

Like the rapidly spinning airborne ninja party witnessed by WorldNetDaily, U.S.-Sino relations threaten to spin wildly out of control over a kaleidoscope of issues.

The Clinton administration's policy of engagement with Communist China -- from the sale of advanced missile, satellite and computer technology, to the 21-gun salute given at Arlington National Cemetery to the architect of the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre, to the relinquishing of the Panama Canal to de facto Chinese control -- has, in the eyes of the administration's critics, brought China's once- antiquated military-industrial complex into the 21st century.

The latest controversial issue to emerge in the president's "strategic partnership" with Red China is the scheduled deployment of U.S. Special Forces soldiers -- SEALS, Delta Force, Green Berets and Marine Force Recon -- to mainland China in an effort to train alongside the People's Liberation Army's own Special Forces, and moreover, to train the PLA's regular infantry.

"The U.S. Special Forces troops are what I would call 'Ronin,'" said Master Fang in an interview with WorldNetDaily. Master Fang has been training PLA Special Forces since 1990.

"The Ronin were Japanese Samurai who lost their master. Without a master to fight for, they committed suicide. As your president is so hated by his own military servants, the Special Forces of America have by default turned into Ronin."

The idea of sending U.S. Special Forces troops to train alongside the People's Liberation Army is the master stroke of Gen. Peter Schoomaker, the U.S. Special Operations Commander. As first reported by WorldNetDaily in July 1998, Schoomaker believes reaching out and establishing training links with Russian and Chinese Special Forces is "something desirable," adding, "You need to engage so you develop rapport and understanding and have another method of dialogue."

Assisting in this controversial approach today are Brigadier Gen. Norton Schwartz, chief of Special Operations Command in the Pacific Theater and the now-retired Adm. Joseph Prueher, former Commander in Chief of the Pacific Command.

Such controversial utilization of America's elite fighting men is not new for the Clinton administration. One such example of U.S. Special Forces deployment, involving not China, but Russia, was typified by Bill Clinton's Presidential Decision Directive 13. Under PDD 13, U.S. Green Berets were dispatched to the former Soviet Republic of Georgia, where they served as mercenaries and bodyguards for Georgian President Edward Shevardnaze.

The idea of sending the U.S. Special Forces to Communist China has both allies and critics.

"Sharing tactics with the Chinese Special Forces is the best possible way to improve our own people's understanding of themselves," says Maj. Carl Bernard, a former U.S. Special Forces operator. Bernard trained the Hmong resistance movement in Laos during the 1960s for the CIA's Special Forces.

"A soldier's role is always, in part, that of an ambassador," Bernard told WorldNetDaily. "Properly trained and oriented Special Forces soldiers should be better at this than anyone else. Our people should have language training as well as an appreciation of both Chinese culture and their policies as part of their preparation."

Other U.S. Special Forces soldiers interviewed by WND were at odds with Bernard's erudite assessment, however.

"I don't like the idea of going to Red China to train their troops," said a Navy SEAL chief who requested his name be withheld due to fear of career reprisals from his superiors.

"Morale among our men is very low," he said, expanding the scope of his concerns. "We don't have money for training, parachuting and marksmanship. It's really become a joke. Our military is in disarray. Experienced people are leaving in droves, combat experienced pilots won't re-enlist. We have a politically correct, feminist army, yet there are rapes going on during basic training and sex in tents in Bosnia. Then there's more bizarre things like witchcraft, Satanism and fights between rivals hailing from street gangs. It's a total meltdown," said the SEAL chief.

Willem Ratte is a South African Defense Force Special Forces chief who once trained the Special Forces of Taiwan to repel a Communist Chinese invasion. His perspective on U.S. Special Forces engagement with China echoed that of other critics.

"I believe the official U.S. policy is to destroy the morale of Taiwan. To make Taiwan believe resistance to Red China is futile," said Ratte in an interview with WorldNetDaily.

"Nelson Mandela switched South Africa's recognition to Communist China from Taiwan. Taiwan's only remaining friends are Guatemala, El Salvador and the few remaining real conservatives in the U.S. Congress."

"Soldiers are not ambassadors any more than ambassadors are soldiers," added Ratte, founder of the Rhodesian Selous Scouts and the man who ran South Africa's "Border War" in Angola against invaders from the Soviet Union, Cuba, North Korea and former Eastern Bloc states.

"I can't understand the Americans helping Red China. Chinese troops and weapons killed American boys in the Korean and Vietnam wars. Someday the U.S. will regret having betrayed the old order for the new one. Russia and China, along with Islam, will attack America when they feel the time is right."

Ratte is also deeply concerned by China's human rights record.

"Since 1949 over 90 million Chinese citizens have been sent to forced labor camps," he said. "Forced abortion is rampant. Christians are sent to gulags along with Catholic priests where they are forced to stand in vats of acid."

"I'll tell you what," added Ratte. "If I'm going to Red China as a Special Forces operator, I'm going there for only one reason -- to train their people to overthrow their own Communist dictatorship."

Putting the finishing touches on the proposed deployment of U.S. Special Forces soldiers to Communist China has been no easy task. Preuher, who had been tabbed by President Clinton to be the new U.S. ambassador to China to replace the departing Ambassador (and ex-U.S. Senator) James Sasser, was rejected by the Chinese government.

"Preuher's credentials were improperly presented" to the Chinese leadership, PRC officials stated in an official Chinese government press release.

The reasons for Preuher's rejection on such apparently flimsy grounds has many foreign diplomats stationed in China scratching their heads.

"At first I thought Admiral Preuher's rejection was a tit-for-tat response to the U.S. bombing of the Chinese embassy in Belgrade," said one Western diplomat who asked that his name not be used -- but not for fear of the Chinese government. Rather, he is concerned about reprisals from his own Western European government, which has recently honored Chinese President Jiang Zemin during a state visit, while sending out its own EU police to beat back Western protesters voicing disapproval of Communist China's human rights record.

"But everyone knows that China was hiding the avionics from the Stealth bomber that the Serbians and Spetnaz shot down during the Kosovo conflict. That violated the 'inner sanctum' policy embassies are supposed to have," said the diplomat. "Now I really believe that Admiral Preuher was rejected because he is an astute military man who would be a formidable foe for the PLA. Ambassador Sasser was basically a public relations front man for the Fortune 500 and a lobbyist to the U.S. Senate, where he maintained close connections. Maybe the PLA finally woke up and realized the Preuher and his tough blokes from the Special Forces might just be spies like us."

Calls by WorldNetDaily to Preuher's office and the U.S. Special Forces Command were not returned.

Yet, for his part, Sasser defends the Clinton administration's policy of "engagement" with China.

"To those who attack the policy of engagement on China, I ask them what is the substitute? If they want to engage in a policy of containment, how would they do it? No other country in the world would join the U.S. in trying to contain China," said Sasser at a ceremony marking the end of his tenure as Ambassador.

"I think China now has a world class leadership. They are sophisticated, they understand the world, but they also have great internal political pressures operating on them."

According to critics, those "internal pressures" of which Sasser speaks are the People's Liberation Army and Communist Party hardliners who seek to fight and win a war against the U.S. and her Western allies.

An insight into these pressures can be found in a recent book by two leading People's Liberation Army Special Forces officers, Colonels Qiao Liang and Wang Xiangsui's. "War Without Restriction," just published by the PLA Literature and Arts Publishing House, calls for "guerilla warfare in the enemy's urban areas, fanatic-style terrorist strikes and computer infiltration" against America and her allies.

As for where all of this will lead, Master Fang has adopted an historic and prophetic tone.

"Napoleon once said, 'Let China sleep, for when she awakes, let the nations tremble.' We have taken back Hong Kong and now Macau. Taiwan and South Korea are ready to fall. We have gained entrance to the World Trade Organization. We are now the largest owner of U.S. debt, and Western corporations are falling all over themselves to appease us," said Master Fang.

"These foolish and greedy men forget the long term view of history. China was conquered by the Middle East and Europe on two occasions -- Attila the Hun in the 5th century and Genghis Khan in the 13th century. History moves in cycles, and China is the wheel on which future history will turn."

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