According to Don McAlvany's December 6, l999 report (total time 28 min.) broadcast on AudioCentral.com, the US Navy has had and still does have problems regarding the Aug GPS roller. According to a defense industry insider, McAlvany was told that there have been MAJOR failures in the US military using GPS and that the coordination of the Navy's traffic system has been down since the August rollover.

Also discussed were problems with commercial airlines caused by the FAA's troubled systems and his assessment of Y2K.

The name of the program is the McAlvany Intelligence Report.

Apologize if this is all old news.

-- Lurkess (Lurkess@Lurking.Net), December 14, 1999

Answers

No need to apologize. I've not heard this until now.

This is just another example of why I don't trust the "official" line that we are getting about Y2K's severity.

One of the "ralling cries" of the pollies has been that Y2K CAN'T be any big deal, BECAUSE the GPS EOW rollover was basically a non-event, except for some autos in Japan that have it installed.

Yet the two are only VERY remotely similar; useful only as an analogy.

LIES, LIES, LIES can only be countered by more SPAM, SPAM, SPAM.

-- profit of doom (doom@helltopay.ca), December 14, 1999.

URL: http://www.audiocentral.com/rshows/mir/default.html

-- snooze button (alarmclock_2000@yahoo.com), December 14, 1999.

Thanks Lurkess. I listen to this program but somehow this fact slipped by me. I knew Japan had a few problems, but I didn't hear of anything in the US.

-- Larry (cobol.programmer@usa.net), December 14, 1999.

And if true, the obvious result is there effective management of the problem. It has gone completely unnoticed. There are no starving inlisted men or lost ships at sea. Take that as a positive.

-- for real (for@real.com), December 14, 1999.

The Navy, any government, and business only tell what they want to be known. They have no reason to do otherwise, and in the case of the Navy, every reason to keep this kind of information from becoming public knowledge.

Thank God they have enough sense to not yell to the world, "Hey, guess what, this would be a great time to attack the US! We can't find our butts with both hands, let alone know where you guys are and what you're up to."

-- TA (sea_spur@yahoo.com), December 14, 1999.

I listened to McAlvaney with hubby this morning. He says he hasn't heard a thing wrong with the GPS....that they're still using it to target missiles, etc.....doesn't know what McAlvaney is talking about. Perhaps he could be a bit more specific....I don't recall a specific example....whereas hubby could list many counter examples where it WAS and IS working...hmmmmmmm.....You don't have to agree....just thought I'd throw in my two cents worth. That's all I know.

-- Ynott (Ynott@incorruptible.com), December 14, 1999.

Information appears in Defense News on 10/04/99 (www.defensenews.com).

Unfortunately you have to pay a subscription fee to go beyond the summary.

Here is the summary:

Defense News, 10-04-99 Summary: -- U.S. Air Force officials are working around a glitch in the Global Positioning System (GPS) that caused a mismatch between the satellite navigation network and military systems using its data. Some interfaces between GPS satellite navigation system equipment and military mission-planning systems misinterpreted the Aug. 21 rollover in the GPS week number, and continued counting past the end of...

Here is the source: http://search.mconetwork.com/cgi-bin/AT-Defense_Newssearch.cgi? search=GPS&sp=sp&paper=defense

Also, a summary from the 05/10/99 Defense News

Summary: U.S. Space Command Tests Gps' Year 2000 Compliance. WASHINGTON -- Following in the footsteps of other government agencies that have tested their computers' resistance to the year 2000 problem, the U.S. Space Command has set the clock ahead on a Global Positioning System (GPS) satellite and ground equipment to test vulnerability to date-change problems. The tests, which began April 23 and will...

If someone has a subscription, they can fill in the blanks for us.

-- Rick (rick7@postmark.net), December 14, 1999.

I think my boss gets Defense News but he already went home for the day. If he is in tomorrow, I will see if he keeps the back issues and look for this.

-- Darla (dnice@hgo.net), December 14, 1999.

Yes Darla,

Please do so. I would like to know more. I have bookmarked this thread.

Thanks.

-- Rick (rick7@postmark.net), December 14, 1999.

Just a note. I asked my husband, who occasionally uses a GPS at work. He said that it has been totally unreliable since the rollover, in terms of elevation data by hundreds of feet. And spatial data is variable as well. From day to day he gets wildly different data for the same location.

-- peabody (peabody@yahoo.com), December 16, 1999.

The civilian GPS receivers are not as accurate as the military version. People who need extremely accurate data like surveyors has to use additional data from land based radio stations to make corrections. This is especially true for elevations. You can make it somewhat more accurate by finding a known elevation (and airport is good) and programming that information into the receiver.

-- The Engineer (The Engineer@tech.com), December 16, 1999.