Say Flint, here's one you might want to reread, it has some meat in it:

IEEE Letter to Congress

Ray

-- Ray (ray@totacc.com), December 12, 1999

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Ray,

I would kindly submit that if anyone would like so excellent reading they should read the last paragraph of Dale Ways essay to Ed yourdon.

Where the Y2K chair of the IEEE makes comments like--Run this ship into the Iceberg--Screeming starting--and my special phrase of all from a notable engineer--WE WILL BURN IN HELL.

He is refering to what he calls the Y2klatura (programmers) that don't have the Courage to say definitely that there will be major problems and to get MAJOR contingency plans ready that would include everyone in all levels of government and Corporation.

Very interesting Essay to say the least!

-- d----- (dciinc@aol.com), December 12, 1999.

Thanks d, I don't have a link to that excellent piece.

Ray

-- Ray (ray@totacc.com), December 12, 1999.

that was depressing, i think i will just go to bed and snuggle my good husband. i have no idea how the world thinks or any of these people think, maybe they need to take a brake and snuggle too, is so much better than lawyers and money and power, they will want to snuggle next yr but no one will want them to snuggle with. glad i got my man and the dog, she is warm too.

-- sandy (rstyree@overland.net), December 13, 1999.

Ray,

Here's the Link you were looking for.

-- just wondering (what.it.is@about.com), December 13, 1999.

Ray...

All of us who have been here at least 8 mo. (including Flint) have read these articles with/without meat. For many of them, the highest credence I've been able to place upon their writings has been their position of leadership Where they SHOULD know what is to be known. However, without referance to an RTC/Embedded functioning in a known evironment at a precise location, leaves a question hanging as to the validity of their accessments. And that has been our problem hasn't it? There has been a world of finger pointing, like a hand waving in the air, not settling upon specific/demonstrated failure.

BTW, It is these "meaty" articles over the last year that caused me to consider the stakes and prepare. For that, I shall have no regret should a BITR occur. I will remain forever prepared come what may.

Regarding Flint, I sincerely hope we have many IT professionals remediating/testing and as confident of their own industry as he appears to be. Somehow I believe he is correct and his industry will NOT have major problems. (Wish I knew who he works for). I am very skepical that this is true thoughout our infrastructure, however, for I see a lost of dedicated work ethnics at every turn. Volumes could be written upon this subject. In short, unless our society retrives an employee/employer relationship based upon a honest dedicated work ethic we will eventually follow the Roman Road.

And Let me say, I have a lot of respect for Flint's position. My only hope is he hasn't encased himself in a shell so fragile it will crack with the CDC.

-- Tommy Rogers (Been there@Just a Thought.com), December 13, 1999.

Well Tommy, to each his own. IMHO Flint has grossly mislead folks on this forum. He has talked out of both sides of his mouth for a long time. I respect folks on both sides of the argument and value their input. I do not respect folks with forked tongues.

Ray

-- Ray (ray@totacc.com), December 13, 1999.