Update from Omaha

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Here's the latest from Omaha also. Why oh why do our resident researchers never seem to find these things?

http://www.omaha.com/Omaha/OWH/StoryViewer/1,3153,262710,00.html

Here's the lead graphs:

The accounting system used by Douglas County and the City of Omaha was back in use Wednesday, for the most part, after crashing when Y2K-compliant applications were switched Sunday from the testing mode to the production mode.

"It's up and running fine," said Mike Carpenter, director of information services. "The county can do whatever it wants."

-- Flint (flintc@mindspring.com), December 12, 1999

Answers

Why oh why can't Flint find his "year of testing is a myth" thread and respond to Lane Core's post?????

-- King of Spain (madrid@aol.cum), December 12, 1999.

Does it appear that Flint is "Grasping for Straws"? Is this the best you can do tonight Flint??

Tale a couple of aspirin and go to bed.

Your Pal, Ray

-- Ray (ray@totacc.com), December 12, 1999.


Hey,that's good news.The presentation is a bit lacking in magnanimity,though.I wonder if it'll work next year.We can only hope.

-- zoobie (zoobiezoob@yahoo.com), December 12, 1999.

Tell you what, KOS, when you finally have the guts to respond to all of the 1999 predictions that came and went, then we'll have accountability. When you finally get off of your high horse with regards to Y2KPro and Lady Logic's listing of those here who make ridiculous utterances about the deaths of 'pollys', then maybe we'll have some consistency. Till then, you asking anyone to be accountable is hilarious.

On another thread by Robin Messing, a couple of people chime in that they'll feel safe if it all amounts to a BITR by February or March, 2000. Question for you and your half-baked compatriots in doomdom: why not just push it all ahead till the end of December? While the intelligent reader looks at all of this and quickly realizes that y2k entrepreneurs/prognosticators of doom made a killing on the issue and wish to keep making that killing while glossing over their past erroneous predicitons, half-wits like you seem to be poised to help in that effort. PT Barnum said 'there's a sucker born every minute', and you seem to wish to bear that point out.

As for flint, while I am happy for yet another posting of reality, your response to Ms.Messing gave me heart palpitations. In it, you said something about the media covering up the panic which IS, IYHO, going on now. Panic, flint? Am I missing something out on the streets that you see?

I was wondering if someone was ghost-writing for you.

-- Bad Company (johnny@shootingstar.com), December 12, 1999.


It may be running, but how much confidence would you place in the data it's generating?

Should we suppose that the 'glitch' which caused the system crash was the only one? Just a question.

-- Me (me@me.me), December 12, 1999.



KOS:

Changing the subject is one of the rules of disinformation. Is that the best you can offer?

Ray:

I'm just trying to clean up after those who piss in the soup and then leave. What's the matter, don't you *want* to know what happened? Gee, when updates make you look stupid, don't blame ME. *I* didn't trumpet the problem and ignore the solution, you did.

-- Flint (flintc@mindspring.com), December 12, 1999.


Well that's wonderful. Maybe they went back to the old system and they got a three week breather. I'm sure we don't know the whole story. Someone reported on the VW parts distribution fiasco which still hasn't been fixed.

It reminds me of Mr. Sulu who used to do the countdown all the time before a calamitous event. 5000, 4000 meters before impact captain. In this case its days and we'll know whether Y2K is a dud or not. It would be pretty funny though if the doomers, which are probably a much smaller minority than libertarians for example - were right. Does anybody have a historical reference when an extreme minority was right about anything?

-- Guy Daley (guydaley@bwn.net), December 12, 1999.


Hey Bad Company, it looks like you support Flint's philosophy of telling everyone you are preparing to the hilt in one breath and then turn around and expend every ounce of effort you have to convince them y2k will be a BITR.

Your one sick puppy pal!!

Ray

-- Ray (ray@totacc.com), December 12, 1999.


Flint.....

I had read this article last week. Since I noticed they are planning on purchasing a new system anyway (later), I am wondering if they reverted to the non-compliant application to allow further testing.

-- Tommy Rogers (Been there@Just a Thought.com), December 12, 1999.


Mr. Full of Good news Flint,

Do me a favor and go read Dale Ways essay to Ed yourdon again and again and again--especially the last paragraph about screeming and ships into icebergs and Burning in hell.

Now if you have credentials that even come close to Dale way--I will personally and publically apologize, but if not keep your weak good news self reporting to yourself. You are not doing anyone any favors with your "hey its not that bad and why doesnt anyone post good reports"--especially with two weeks to go and the threat of terrorism.

Think!!!

-- d----- (dciinc@aol.com), December 12, 1999.



Flint, every time I think I've heard the most stupid drivel I've ever heard I have to remind myself to check out your latest posts.

I do like to keep up on the stupidity levels - it's a way of guaging how close we are to trigger time. I guess the time is drawing near.

-- paul leblanc (bronyaur@gis.net), December 12, 1999.


yeah, I forgot ray, the rules don't apply to doomers. Explanations never come. Just gloss over the past and keep prodding along.

Yeah, I'm a sick puppy, yadda, yadda, yadda. In a minute, you'll be telling me how I'll be dead in 15 days.

Same old, boring, almost unintelligible swine.

-- Bad Company (johnny@shootingstar.com), December 12, 1999.


OK, I take full responsibility for every bad 1999 prediction made for anything by anyone. Sorry, I was just plain wrong on everything -- even those Mars probes, I should have remembered about the English to Metric units thing. You need not hold anyone else accountable nor bring it up to anyone else. Just say, "KOS screwed up."

Meanwhile, Flint, about that "year of testing" thread....

-- King of Spain (madrid@aol.cum), December 12, 1999.

Thanks for the info. Flint, contrary to popular belief there are quite a few "doomers" on this board, such as myself, who WANT to hear positive news. Especially now. Please, give us everything you can find.

I love it when all the doomers are classified as salivating over bad news and ignoring good news. MORE GOOD NEWS, PLEASE!!!!! I like my life the way it is!

-- preparing (preparing@home.com), December 12, 1999.


This is my first post here, but I have been lurking for awhile. Just wanted to say something to the polly's.

Hitting a bump in the road at high speed can kill ya!!!!!

Chew on that!

-- Vincent (vincent@manof.god), December 12, 1999.



Welcome Vincent. It would appear that the pollies are becoming a little frantic.

-- ghost (fading into the@background.com), December 12, 1999.

My car started so that proves that there are no problems with y2k. Also my water is working, add that.

My humble prediction is MOST utilities will work in the US of A on January 1. Some will not and those up north could be rather annoying to their customers. Things go down-hill from there as the oil shock and data problems start grinding the face off goldilocks. Come back in February and if everything is still humming right along with gas at buck-fifty or less you are hereby entitled to tell me you told me so. Better yet if the ides of March come with few problems I will post the message, "Flint told me so." If I am correct what a hollow victory that would be, wouldn't it. No dancing with joy, no pointing my finger at the screen saying Nya, nya I will be sweating the problems like everyone else hoping the social instability in other parts of the world don't make it this far.

Heads you win, Tails I lose. I will drink some champagne during the rollover and toast the "pollies wisdom." Until then more trips to Walmart.

-- Squid (ItsDark@down.here), December 12, 1999.


I'm preparing -- not to the hilt, I can't afford it, just a good 2-3 months' worth -- but I really wish I could be polly in good faith. Sadly, I can't, there's too much angry rhetoric now on both sides and too much at stake to arrive prematurely on the "we're safe" side of this argument, IMHO. We'll know we're safe when we get to safety, but not before.

One of the reasons many of us, pollies and doomers alike, frequent this forum is our insecurity in the face of a fiendishly complex technical dilemma. We want to be certain, but can't be.

Time to end the provocations and flames, ladies and gentlemen, and make up, and wish each other well in the new year whatever it brings. This is our community, after all, differences of opinion, warts and all. I hope pollies are right: I hope it's just a BITR, but I can't chance my family on a hope.

-- panjandrum (panjandrum@samfoote.net), December 12, 1999.


call me nuts but I get this nagging thought recurring...

After these "we know better than you" pollies post their absolutely verifiable facts (read PR releases) and try to humiliate/vilify us preparers (read horrible doomers) do they go out and buy more supplies?

-- (Kurt.Borzel@gems8.gov.bc.ca), December 13, 1999.


Bad Company-

"As for flint, while I am happy for yet another posting of reality, your response to Ms.Messing gave me heart palpitations. In it, you said something about the media covering up the panic which IS, IYHO, going on now. Panic, flint? Am I missing something out on the streets that you see?"

You might want to re-read that post. Flint did not intend for that to be taken seriously. In fact, he was pointing out that quite the opposite is the reality.

-- CD (not@here.com), December 13, 1999.


The accounting system for Douglas County and the City of Omaha are fine--whoopie shit.

-- Ocotillo (peeling@out.===), December 13, 1999.

Yeah, extreme minority that were correct: All those who bailed out before the 1929 stock market crash. It's a true, historical fact.

-- Dot (dromano03@snet.com), December 13, 1999.

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