Who is the DOOMIEST of doomers on this fourm? (seriously....)

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I'm sure that all of us would be VERY interested to know just exactly what the SERIOUS doomers (such as myself) are doing as far as Y2K preps. Just to make it more interesting, tell us what you do for a living (unless you don't feel comfortable). Don't be afraid to tell all...just be honest. I must warn you, I think I may just take the cake in this category, but even if you don't have quite the extent of preps as I, tell us anyway. It'll be fun. Also, before we go judging each others preps, just remember that each of us prepares according to how bad we think y2k will be. I am at least 75% TEOTWAWKI (after literally thousands of hours of research), so while my prepa are extreme, if I am right with my belief, they they are also rational.

I'll start...

I am a musician, and am preparing for 4 people (mom, brother, father[although he may stay with his girlfriend in Florida---he is a DGI], and brother).

I live in Miami, but my family has a retreat in North Carolina. All of our neighbors are bigtime y2k-aware, which is weird because we had no idea when we bought the house in Jan.1999.

food 1 year worth of dehydrated food for 4 (2800 calories/day) About 3 or 4 months worth of canned and jarred food (tuna, spag, etc.) 2 milk and 2 meat goats Community garden (my neighboros are all y2k aware and rural as hell...in fact, they have raised animals before and garden all the time) Several hundred canning jars and many lids...While I have NO idea how to can, my neighbors have been canning for years Lots of junk, i.e.-chocolate, etc.

Water neighbors have gravity feed water from a well, so I will have to make daily trips to their sinks to have water As a back-up, there is a fresh water stream near the house Enought Aerobic Oxygen to treat several thousand gallons, and an Aqua-Rain filter

Light About 6 Malite's and 6 mini-mags, allwith LED conversion bulbs (you can make these yourself) which make the batteries last about 15 times longer than normal Three solar battery chargers and many rechargeables (I figure I can use one for barter). Several dozen regular batteries

Hygiene 36 chapsticks about 500 or so rolls of toilet paper 30 or so bars of soap 4 gallons of shampoo 20 large things of floss (you DO NOT want cavities for y2k...p.s., GO GET A CHECK-UP IF YOU HAVE NOT ALREADY!0 Lot's o-toothbrushes and tooth-paste

Firearms (can u believe that pre-y2k, I was anti-gun?) .22 Mossberg for barter or small game (I got it before I knew what I was doing and now it's stuck up in North Carolina so i can't return it) Mossberg 12 guage shotgun Sig Sauer 9mm pistol AR-15 with second generation night vision scope (and day scope too or course)

Other 7-8 months worth of my mothers meds 4 bottles of potasium iodate Some cammo and other military paraphanilia I got at the local surpluss (i.e., cantine, etc.) (disclaimer-I am not planning on killing anyone... I figured that cammo would be nice if ever I had to keep guard or whatever...and if you disagree with the guns, then you need to go do more research---also, if y2k is not bad, I am literally going to sell back ALL my guns!) bullet-proof vest (hey, you never know!)

Anyway, that just about covers my preps. Am I an extremist?

Looking forward to your responses!

-- Rational Doomer (doomer@big.time), December 09, 1999

Answers

if this is neither spoof nor troll, then yes, you are an extreme survivalist.

-- edu (org@gov.mil), December 09, 1999.

What I'd like to know is what kind of plans are being made by those who definitely believe in preparing but who don't expect Y2k to be the end of Western Civilization.

-- Middle (of@the.road), December 09, 1999.

Don't sell back your guns!

Herr Klinton will be coming to take them off you soon enough...

-- pops (poppy@poppin.fresh), December 09, 1999.


I am, you stupid dweeb

-- Peter Starr (startrak@northcoast.com), December 09, 1999.

You call that extreme? Geez, I guess everything really *is* relative after all!

-- Choirboy (choirboy@hellzchoir.edu), December 09, 1999.


The most pessimistic Y2K pundit I've come across is someone named Still Water Woman (her website; Y2K poison pill). From her writings I gather she expects Y2K problems to yield over a 99 percent death rate, with the survivors falling back to near stone age conditions.

-- Ocotillo (peeling@out.===), December 09, 1999.

The Y2K Poison Pill

-- check (this@site.out), December 09, 1999.

TP! Why do I always forget the TP! And I have all these beans...

-- helen (sstaten@fullnet.net), December 09, 1999.

Ratinal Doomer: In my opinion, you need to double your toilet paper.

-- jeanne (jeanne@hurry.now), December 09, 1999.

Forget the toilet paper, that's just "mall survivalism". Buy a small pumpup garden sprayer with an extended "wand" and bend the nozzle/wand so that it can be used as a bidet (sp? sounds like bid-day) and use water to clean up. Look for permanant solutions not temporary nicities, you'll save money and space.

P.S. Yes I am stocking TP but NOT 500 rolls, just if Y2K is a BITR. TP does age and fall apart after a while.

-- Ken Seger (kenseger@earthlink.net), December 09, 1999.



For a Y2K survivalist to prepare to ride out the coming storm in MIAMI! is like a jew in 1938 Berlin preparing to ride out the coming storm;.......futile!

-- Alfred E (what@MeWorry.com), December 09, 1999.

Ken,

I think bardou had the idea for the inexpensive version - a douche bag. {Yup, you spelt it right}.

-- flora (***@__._), December 09, 1999.


Ken, what's the shelf life of TP? Never heard of TP falling apart with age.

-- bardou (bardou@baloney.com), December 09, 1999.

Food for five to six months, water for two to three months with a river nearby and good filters. A garden and seeds, a fishing pole. Nondeadly self-defense. I don't necessarily think it will all go, but it might. Don't know. Have a bunch of floss, but could use more. God bless all.

-- Mara (MaraWayne@aol.com), December 09, 1999.

I hope you're not planning on staying in Miami until the last minute. Get to your retreat well before the New Year. Otherwise, your preparations seem quite reasonable, except that you don't have enough food, or a good water supply. How about catching rain from your roof? Do you get a lot af rain there?

-- Steve Heller (stheller@koyote.com), December 09, 1999.


Still Water Woman sure doesn't sound like an assembler programmer to me. Looks like a wannabe-grizzled-veteran.

Her version is "IF coffee = Maxwell House". In assembler that would be more like: Load a register with location of string denoting coffee, Load another with location of string the has literal value of "Maxwell House". Loop through register-A-denoted string looking for a binary zero, store counter result in register C. Loop through register-B-denoted string to find binary zero, storing counter in register D. (Now you know how long the strings are.) If register C value <> register D value, jump to no-match address. Else decrement and loop while comparing lower-cased byte from register-A-denoted string to lower-cased byte from register-B-denoted string, and on any mismatch jump to no-match address. At end of loop, jump to good-match address.

That takes care of her first line. Assembler is DETAILED, people.

-- bw (home@puget.sound), December 09, 1999.


I am planning on staying in Miami until around the 26th of Dec because I will be going up with my polly mother and she is not willing to leave any earlier. And YES I am scared that I won't be able to get up there...but I don't have much choice!

-- Rational Doomer (doomer@big.time), December 09, 1999.

Bardou, If it is kept out of the sunlight and in a dark cool place it will probably last for many years. However, if somebody is storing it in an attic where temperatures can easily hit 180+ F., it might become too fragile to use by say August of 2000, particularily if it is a cheap brand. It doesn't need to change much in terms of fragility to become worthless. So stocking up for 6 months normal use is reasonable but anybody stocking more or expecting to stretch it should store it in an appropriate location.

-- Ken Seger (kenseger@earthlink.net), December 09, 1999.

Ken, 180F??!? Are you sure?!? Wouldn't that cause a house fire!?

-- Crono (Crono@timesend.com), December 10, 1999.

Farenheit 451, not just a book, but the temperature at which paper will spontaneously combust.

-- Duke 1983 (Duke1983@AOL.com), December 10, 1999.

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