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RMKS/1. THE PURPOSE OF THIS PUBLIC AFFAIRS GUIDANCE (PAG) IS TO

SYNCHRONIZE THE COMMUNICATIONS EFFORTS OF COMMANDS AND

INSTALLATIONS THROUGHOUT THE MARINE CORPS PERTAINING TO Y2K

TRANSITION OPERATIONS. Y2K TRANSITION OPERATIONS COMPRISE ALL

ACTIONS THAT WILL BE TAKEN TO DETECT, REPORT AND RESPOND TO

DISTURBANCES THAT OCCUR AS A RESULT OF THE PASSAGE OF

TIME INTO THE YEAR 2000.

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2. THE PUBLIC AFFAIRS POSTURE FOR Y2K TRANSITION OPERATIONS IS

ACTIVE. COMMANDERS AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS OFFICERS SHOULD ENSURE ALL

AUDIENCES ARE AWARE OF THE SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS OF THEIR

MARINES TO ENSURE A SMOOTH TRANSITION INTO THE NEW YEAR, TO

INCLUDE THE SACRIFICES OF MANY WHO WILL MISS HOLIDAY EVENTS WITH

THEIR FAMILIES IN ORDER TO PROMPTLY RESPOND TO Y2K EVENTS, SHOULD

THEY OCCUR.

3. BACKGROUND: A. OVER THE PAST 18 MONTHS, THE MARINE CORPS HAS

AGGRESSIVELY EVALUATED, TESTED AND UPGRADED ALL MISSION CRITICAL

AND MISSION SUPPORT SYSTEMS, BASES AND THOSE SYSTEMS VITAL TO

EXECUTING OUR SIX WARFIGHTING FUNCTIONS. THE RESULTS OF THE

EVALUATIONS INDICATE THAT RISK OF Y2K FAILURE HAS BEEN

SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED.

B. Y2K TRANSITION OPERATIONS CULMINATE THE MARINE CORPS Y2K

EFFORTS AND WILL FOCUS ON TWO DISTINCT PERIODS. THE FIRST

TRANSITION PERIOD FROM 28 DEC THROUGH 4 JAN WILL ADDRESS THE

PASSAGE OF THE NEW YEAR, AND THE SECOND TRANSITION FROM 27

FEB THROUGH 1 MAR WILL ADDRESS THE PASSAGE OF LEAP YEAR. Y2K

TRANSITION OPERATIONS WILL BE SIMULTANEOUSLY CONDUCTED BY

HIGHER AND ADJACENT ORGANIZATIONS THROUGHOUT DOD.

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C. DURING THOSE TWO TIME PERIODS, A Y2K RESPONSE CELL WILL BE

STOOD UP AT HEADQUARTERS MARINE CORPS WITH THE MISSION TO DETECT,

REPORT AND RESPOND TO Y2K FAILURES AND TO FACILITATE A COORDINATED

RESPONSE TO THOSE FAILURES AND DISTURBANCES AFFECTING U.S. MARINE

CORPS SYSTEMS. IT WILL BE MANNED BY SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS FROM

A WIDE SPECTRUM OF SPECIALTIES, INCLUDING PUBLIC AFFAIRS.

COMMANDS AND INSTALLATIONS HAVE BEEN ASKED TO FORWARD THE NAMES

AND CONTACT INFORMATION OF THEIR PUBLIC AFFAIRS POINTS OF CONTACT

VIA SEPARATE CORRESPONDENCE.

D. PER REF (A), THERE WILL BE FIVE READINESS POSTURES AS A

GRADUATED RESPONSE BASED UPON THE CURRENT Y2K STATUS DOD-WIDE.

POSTURE LEVELS WILL RANGE FROM FIVE TO ONE, WITH FIVE AS THE LOWEST

STATE OF READINESS AND ONE AS THE HIGHEST. THE SECRETARY OF

DEFENSE WILL SET THE MINIMUM LEVEL, AND LOCAL COMMANDERS MAY RAISE

THE LEVEL FOR A SPECIFIC REGION OR COMMAND AS THE SITUATION

WARRANTS.

E. THERE WILL BE NO PUBLIC RELEASE OF INFORMATION REGARDING,

(1) THE FAILURE OF ANY OF THE MARINE CORPS SEVENTY-ONE MISSION

CRITICAL OR FIFTY-SIX MISSION SUPPORT SYSTEMS; (2) ANY Y2K FAILURE

THAT HAS AN IMMEDIATE IMPACT ON ONGOING OPERATIONS OR OPERATIONAL

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READINESS; (3) ANY Y2K FAILURE THAT EXPOSES OPERATING FORCES OR

INSTALLATIONS TO EXTERNAL THREAT; (4) ANY FAILURE THAT CAUSES A

CRITICAL LOSS OF OPERATIONS OR WARFIGHTING CAPABILITY AFFECTING

OCONUS OR CONUS MARINE CORPS INSTALLATIONS.

F. COMMANDERS AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS OFFICERS ARE PERMITTED TO

RELEASE INFORMATIONON THOSE Y2K ANOMALIES THAT (1) DO NOT PLACE

OPERATING FORCES OR INSTALLATIONS IN JEOPARDY TO EXTERNAL THREAT

OR ATTACK, AND (2) ARE READILY APPARENT THROUGH SIMPLE OBSERVATION.

IT ALSO IS IMPERATIVE TO RAPIDLY DECONFLICT THOSE EVENTS THAT

ERRONEOUSLY COULD BE ATTRIBUTED TO Y2K.

4. THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT IS APPROVED FOR USE AS NEEDED BY ALL

ADDRESSEES: (QUOTE) FOR THE PAST 18 MONTHS, U.S. MARINES AND

SUPPORT PERSONNEL (ABOARD A PARTICULAR BASE OR SERVING IN A

PARTICULAR COMMAND) HAVE BEEN ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN ELIMINATING

THREATS ASSOCIATED WITH Y2K, A WORLDWIDE PHENOMENON THAT

EMERGED UPON DISCOVERY THAT CERTAIN COMPUTERS WOULD NOT RECOGNIZE

THE PASSAGE OF TIME INTO THE YEAR 2000 AND POSSIBLY FAIL IN THEIR

CRITICAL FUNCTIONS. MARINES FROM (PARTICULAR COMMANDS AND BASES)

HAVE SUCCEEDED IN TESTING, EVALUATING AND UPGRADING ALL AUTOMATED

AND COMPUTER-RELIANT SYSTEMS WHOSE FAILURE WOULD JEOPARDIZE THE

ABILITY OF THE MARINE CORPS TO EXECUTE ITS PART OF THE NATIONAL

MILITARY STRATEGY. ALL MONITORING, TESTING AND EVALUATING WILL

CULMINATE IN THE Y2K TRANSITION, WHICH WILL FOCUS ON TWO DISTINCT

PASSAGES OF TIME: THE ROLLOVER INTO THE NEW YEAR AND THE ROLLOVER

INTO THE LEAP YEAR, FEBRUARY 29. RESPONSE AGENCIES HAVE BEEN

STOOD UP WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY OF DETECTING, REPORTING AND

RESPONDING TO ANY Y2K FAILURES AND FACILITATE A COORDINATED

RESPONSE TO DISTURBANCES AFFECTING U.S. MARINE CORPS SYSTEMS

DURING THE TRANSITION. THE MANY EFFORTS LEADING UP TO THE

TRANSITION AND THE ENSUING PREPARATIONS FOR THE ROLLOVER PERIODS

HAVE DRAMATICALLY DECREASED THE THREAT TO MARINES AND MARINE CORPS

INSTALLATIONS. FOR FURTHER QUESTIONS ON WHAT (A PARTICULAR COMMAND

OR INSTALLATION) HAS DONE TO PREPARE FOR THE Y2K TRANSITION, CONTACT

THE PUBLIC AFFAIRS OFFICE AT (THE PARTICULAR CONTACT INFORMATION) (END QUOTE)

5. PUBLIC AFFAIRS MESSAGES: (A) THE MARINE CORPS IS READY, AND WILL

BE PREPARED TO SUPPORT, PROTECT AND DEFEND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IN

NEED WORLDWIDE AS IT ALWAYS HAS.

(B) THROUGH THE COORDINATED EFFORTS OF MANY PROFESSIONALS WORKING

LONG HOURS, THE MARINE CORPS CONTINUES TO MAKE GREAT PROGRESS IN

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MEETING ALL CHALLENGES ASSOCIATED WITH Y2K.

(C) THE MARINE CORPS WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE Y2K ONE OF ITS HIGHEST

PRIORITIES TO ENSURE A SEAMLESS TRANSITION WITH NO DEGRADATION OF

OUR WARFIGHTING CAPABILITY.

(D) THE EFFORTS OF MANY DETERMINED PROFESSIONALS HAVE CONTRIBUTED IN

MAKING THIS COMING NEW YEAR AS INCONSEQUENTIAL, MILITARILY, AS ANY OTHER.

6. THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS ARE APPROVED FOR USE AS NECESSARY:

Q1. HOW MUCH HAS THE MARINE CORPS SPENT TO ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM?

A1. THE MARINE CORPS HAS SPENT ABOUT $40 MILLION OVER THE PAST 18

MONTHS TO ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM.

Q2. HOW MANY OF THE MARINE CORPS COMPUTER SYSTEMS ARE CONSIDERED MISSION-CRITICAL?

A2. THE MARINE CORPS HAS SEVENTY-ONE MISSION-CRITICAL AND FIFTY-SIX MISSION-SUPPORT SYSTEMS.

Q3. WHAT WERE THE RESULTS OF THE VARIOUS EVALUATIONS YOU HAVE MADE

SO FAR?

A3. THE TESTS HAVE REVEALED THAT ALL MISSION-CRITICAL AND

MISSION-SUPPORT SYSTEMS ARE IN COMPLIANCE, AND NO SIGNIFICANT

DISRUPTIONS ARE EXPECTED.

Q4. WHAT DO YOU EXPECT TO OCCUR DURING THE CALENDAR ROLLOVER?

A4. ALL TESTING AND EVALUATIONS HAVE LED US TO CONCLUDE THAT Y2K

SHOULD PASS UNEVENTFULLY WITH THOSE SYSTEMS THAT ARE USED WITH

REGULARITY.

Q5. WHAT DID YOU DO TO FIX THE PROBLEMS?

A5. IN SOME CASES, ALL THAT WAS REQUIRED WAS TO MAKE CORRECTIONS IN

THE SOFTWARE THAT RUN THE VARIOUS PROGRAMS. IN OTHER CASES, OLDER

COMPUTERS WERE UPGRADED TO NEWER SYSTEMS THAT WERE MANUFACTURED WITH

Y2K COMPLIANCE IN MIND. ADDITIONALLY, SOME OF THE OLD PROGRAMS WERE

REPLACED WITH NEWER, MORE EFFICIENT ONES.

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Q6. HOW DO YOU DEFINE A MISSION-CRITICAL SYSTEM?

A6. SYSTEMS THAT ARE CONSIDERED MISSION-CRITICAL INCLUDE COMMAND AND

CONTROL SYSTEMS, SATELLITE SYSTEMS, INVENTORY MANAGEMENT SYTEMS,

TRANSPORTATION MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS, MEDICAL SYSTEMS AND EQUIPMENT,

AND PAY AND PERSONNEL SYSTEMS.

Q7. ARE OUR MILITARY ALLIES INVOLVED IN A SIMILAR Y2K EFFORT?

A7. THE DEFENSE DEPARTMENT HAS INITIATED SEVERAL EFFORTS TO

COORDINATE WITH OUR ALLIES AND PARTNERS. THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE

DISCUSSED THE PROBLEM DURING THEJUNE 1998 NATO CONFERENCE. REGIONAL

CINCS ALSO ARE WORKING CLOSELY WITH ALLIES AND U.S. SECURITY

ASSISTANCE OFFICERS.

Q8. WHAT HAS THE MARINE CORPS DONE TO COORDINATE WITH THOSE LOCAL

GOVERNMENTS IN PROXIMITY TO THE BASE(S)?

A8. IN THOSE CASES WHERE AN INSTALLATION AND A NEIGHBORING

MUNICIPALITY SHARE SERVICES OR UTILITIES, A GREAT DEAL OF

COORDINATION HAS TAKEN TO PLACE TO MITIGATE ANY PROBLEMS ASSOCIATED

WITH Y2K.

7. HEADQUARTERS MARINE CORPS PUBLIC AFFAIRS POC IS CAPT PETE

MITCHELL, DSN 224-6101/4309, COMM: (703) 614-6101/4309.

EMAIL ADDRESS, MITCHELLPJ@HQMC.USMC.MIL.//

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-- See (FourEye@Hotmail.com), December 08, 1999

Answers

Is this spam?? Or is it someone's expanded10800bit wide Super PGP Key??

-- Z (Z@Z.Z), December 08, 1999.

I thought this was interesting.

. THERE WILL BE NO PUBLIC RELEASE OF INFORMATION REGARDING, (1) THE FAILURE OF ANY OF THE MARINE CORPS SEVENTY-ONE MISSION CRITICAL OR FIFTY-SIX MISSION SUPPORT SYSTEMS; (2) ANY Y2K FAILURE THAT HAS AN IMMEDIATE IMPACT ON ONGOING OPERATIONS OR OPERATIONAL PAGE 06 RUEACMC5394 UNCLAS READINESS; (3) ANY Y2K FAILURE THAT EXPOSES OPERATING FORCES OR INSTALLATIONS TO EXTERNAL THREAT; (4) ANY FAILURE THAT CAUSES A CRITICAL LOSS OF OPERATIONS OR WARFIGHTING CAPABILITY AFFECTING OCONUS OR CONUS MARINE CORPS INSTALLATIONS.

F. COMMANDERS AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS OFFICERS ARE PERMITTED TO RELEASE INFORMATIONON THOSE Y2K ANOMALIES THAT (1) DO NOT PLACE OPERATING FORCES OR INSTALLATIONS IN JEOPARDY TO EXTERNAL THREAT OR ATTACK, AND (2) ARE READILY APPARENT THROUGH SIMPLE OBSERVATION. IT ALSO IS IMPERATIVE TO RAPIDLY DECONFLICT THOSE EVENTS THAT ERRONEOUSLY COULD BE ATTRIBUTED TO Y2K.

-- no (ne@this.time), December 08, 1999.


Print out and have ready to play Marshall Law Jeopardy. You give the answers.. see if they can come up with the right questions.

-- Linda (lwmb@psln.com), December 08, 1999.

Appears to be the real thing.

let's disect it a little.

"Y2K TRANSITION OPERATIONS COMPRISE ALL ACTIONS THAT WILL BE TAKEN TO DETECT, REPORT AND RESPOND TO DISTURBANCES THAT OCCUR AS A RESULT OF THE PASSAGE OF TIME INTO THE YEAR 2000."

Disturbances - interesting word.

"THE PUBLIC AFFAIRS POSTURE FOR Y2K TRANSITION OPERATIONS IS ACTIVE."

Set spin to on.

"TO INCLUDE THE SACRIFICES OF MANY WHO WILL MISS HOLIDAY EVENTS WITH THEIR FAMILIES IN ORDER TO PROMPTLY RESPOND TO Y2K EVENTS, SHOULD THEY OCCUR."

"Many who will miss holiday events" - leaves cancelled, and not just the geeks. Remember that few, the proud, the bold? Marines got really few geeks (but good ones).

"OVER THE PAST 18 MONTHS"

Clueless.

"Y2K TRANSITION OPERATIONS CULMINATE THE MARINE CORPS Y2K EFFORTS AND WILL FOCUS ON TWO DISTINCT PERIODS. THE FIRST TRANSITION PERIOD FROM 28 DEC THROUGH 4 JAN WILL ADDRESS THE PASSAGE OF THE NEW YEAR, AND THE SECOND TRANSITION FROM 27 FEB THROUGH 1 MAR WILL ADDRESS THE PASSAGE OF LEAP YEAR."

This is the real time frame the ops centers are planning on. Clue that it is real.

"THERE WILL BE NO PUBLIC RELEASE OF INFORMATION REGARDING, (1) THE FAILURE OF ANY OF THE MARINE CORPS SEVENTY-ONE MISSION CRITICAL OR FIFTY-SIX MISSION SUPPORT SYSTEMS; (2) ANY Y2K FAILURE THAT HAS AN IMMEDIATE IMPACT ON ONGOING OPERATIONS OR OPERATIONAL READINESS; (3) ANY Y2K FAILURE THAT EXPOSES OPERATING FORCES OR INSTALLATIONS TO EXTERNAL THREAT; (4) ANY FAILURE THAT CAUSES A CRITICAL LOSS OF OPERATIONS OR WARFIGHTING CAPABILITY AFFECTING OCONUS OR CONUS MARINE CORPS INSTALLATIONS."

Don't expect to be told of failures.

"COMMANDERS AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS OFFICERS ARE PERMITTED TO RELEASE INFORMATIONON THOSE Y2K ANOMALIES THAT (1) DO NOT PLACE OPERATING FORCES OR INSTALLATIONS IN JEOPARDY TO EXTERNAL THREAT OR ATTACK, AND (2) ARE READILY APPARENT THROUGH SIMPLE OBSERVATION."

Unless the public can see it AND it isn't important.

"IT ALSO IS IMPERATIVE TO RAPIDLY DECONFLICT THOSE EVENTS THAT ERRONEOUSLY COULD BE ATTRIBUTED TO Y2K."

If it is possible to blame a failure that the public can see on something other than Y2K, do it really quickly.

"THE MARINE CORPS IS READY, AND WILL BE PREPARED TO SUPPORT, PROTECT AND DEFEND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IN NEED WORLDWIDE AS IT ALWAYS HAS."

This is their intent and I applaud them for it.

"Q3. WHAT WERE THE RESULTS OF THE VARIOUS EVALUATIONS YOU HAVE MADE SO FAR? A3. THE TESTS HAVE REVEALED THAT ALL MISSION-CRITICAL AND MISSION- SUPPORT SYSTEMS ARE IN COMPLIANCE, AND NO SIGNIFICANT DISRUPTIONS ARE EXPECTED."

All compliant. Good. Wonder what's mission critical. Oh didn't the previous paragraph say that if it was important, they couldn't say?

"Q6. HOW DO YOU DEFINE A MISSION-CRITICAL SYSTEM? A6. SYSTEMS THAT ARE CONSIDERED MISSION-CRITICAL INCLUDE COMMAND AND CONTROL SYSTEMS, SATELLITE SYSTEMS, INVENTORY MANAGEMENT SYTEMS, TRANSPORTATION MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS, MEDICAL SYSTEMS AND EQUIPMENT, AND PAY AND PERSONNEL SYSTEMS.

Do you see the words "Weapon Systems" here?

So... They have a whole lot of marines - more than the geeks preparing for disturbances. They have been working for a relatively short period of time on their systems. They aren't allowed to tell of problems unless trivial and apparent. They areready to taake on threats to America in this time period. They havn't seen enough problems in weapon systems (whether they have looked or not)to have them in mind and include them in the list.

-- ng (cantprovideemail@none.com), December 08, 1999.


THE RESULTS OF THE EVALUATIONS INDICATE THAT RISK OF Y2K FAILURE HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED.

Then in the "for public consumption" section, they say

A3. THE TESTS HAVE REVEALED THAT ALL MISSION-CRITICAL AND MISSION-SUPPORT SYSTEMS ARE IN COMPLIANCE, AND NO SIGNIFICANT DISRUPTIONS ARE EXPECTED.

How did they get from risk of failure significantly reduced, to everything in compliance??

-- _ (_@_._), December 08, 1999.



It sure would be interesting to see the CONFIDENTIAL, SECRET, TOP SECRET, and TOP SECRET (codeword) versions of this message.

-- **** (@ .), December 08, 1999.

with apologies to Disraeli..."Lies, Damn Lies and Public Relations" (spin).

Keep your eyes open and your powder dry.

-- Irving (irvingf@myremarq.com), December 08, 1999.


Thanks, See FourEye (Hey! Do you know c4i ;-P)

The Social Security Administration, after working on Y2K for 10 years, stated that they were compliant, although they were not. The USMC, after working on Y2K for 18 months, stated here that risk of failure has been significantly reduced...wonder what that means.

-- (RUOK@yesiam.com), December 08, 1999.


1) it means that their warfighting capability WILL go on regardless.

2) Remember, our good friend Hardliner to the contrary (he flew) a Marine is FIRST AND FORMOST a rifle-toting infantryman. ALL Marines are riflemen.

Chuck

who has NEVER seen a noncompliant pure rifle.

-- Chuck, a night driver (rienzoo@en.com), December 09, 1999.


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