Harttzell, Alabama implants in hands already in use.

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There have been stories similar to this one in circulation, but so far I have not been able to verify their accuracy. In the Hartzell, Alabama Wal-Mart, a customer went through the checkout and made a purcahse. When the cashier totalled up his purchasse, he instructed her to scan his hand. He then passed his hand across the scanner and the purchase was completed. I had received information on this a while back that this was going to be a law and that every one would have a year to be implanted. At that time no transaction of any kind will take place with out having a chip. I am sure you are all aware of the Mark of the Beast.

-- Mary T. (marytower@webtv.net), December 06, 1999

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Delete.

-- Me (me@me.me), December 06, 1999.

I suppose if the Christians win the final battle, I won't be able to shop at Wal-Mart unless I show a certificate that I have been "washed in the blood of the Lamb"?

Sorry, the only lamb I am interested in is wooly and makes lamb chops.

Religion was invented so men too old to hunt and women too old to breed could have an excusse to keep being fed around the tribal stew-pot.

-- godless (atheist@godless.com), December 07, 1999.


Hi Mary, I think that this is an urban legend. You might want to check here: http://www.urbanlegends.com/

-- (formerly nobody@nowhere.net), December 07, 1999.

I have received three seperate reports of this kind of activity. Two were Wal-Mart (Oklahoma and Washington) and another was K-mart. One report was an eye witness account, the other two were second hand reports. True or not? I don't know, but the biometric chip implants are definitely here and have been tested on everything from dogs and cats to military personnel.

I find it interesting that yet again, here is a report from Wal-Mart. Unverified of course, but interesting.

As for "godless" and "me", you might want to do a little research. The technology for tracking and monitoring humans via implants is already in use. I would simply suggest you do your homework and prove for your own selves what the real facts are.

Start here:

http://commdocs.house.gov/committees/bank/hba48784.000/hba48784_0f.htm BIOMETRICS AND THE FUTURE OF MONEY

and here:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_dougherty/19990930_xnjdo_an_ecomm er.shtml e-commerce barcode 'tattoo'

and here:

http://www.networkusa.org/fingerprint.shtml

Fight the Fingerprint

There is a great deal of factual information on the Net to anyone who is interested in biometrics and the forthcoming mark of the beast.

-- Biometrics Are Here (revelations16@hotmail.com), December 07, 1999.


Hey Revalation, I COULD CARE LESS.

Today the difference between having an embedded chip vs. magnetic strips on credit cards, supermarket cards, fingerprints, license plates on cars. Who cares?

I bet your grandparents thought paper money was a tool of the devil, and your great-great grandparents thought gold coins would never replace barter.

-- godless (atheist@godless.com), December 07, 1999.



Would that be Hartselle, AL?

-- Flint (flintc@mindspring.com), December 07, 1999.

Phew, now we've got rid of the wingdings, I can say that the checkout report sounds to me very like an urban myth. Even if the customer had a bar-code printed on his hand (which is presumably all a normal checkout barcode scanner could read) I don't see how that would complete the purchase. Surely some sort of payment would be required, involving a credit card number, which gets sent to the credit card firm, which confirms he's creditworthy, then he signs the receipt. I can't see how all that would be handled by waving a barcode over the scanner.

This is not to say I don't have any concerns about biometrics. I do, but this report sounds implausible.

-- Rob (rob@planet.rob), December 07, 1999.


Yesterday I did a small job in Hayward, CA. Needed to get some supplies so the lady gave me the new key. You simply wave a card in front of a red light on the gate post and the gate opens. First time I've seen anything like that. I don't think it is too far fetched to see something like embeddeds in humans. Marin County, CA started doing this with animals several years ago.

If you don't think we are at the numbering stage yet try this. Go to the Dept. of Motor Vehicles and pick up the forms for a new license and then add up all the numbers you will need in order to be "processed". Just helped my niece go through the routine and it is nuts.

However I'm not worried about it either.

We win!/Have already won.

-- Mark Hillyard (foster@inreach.com), December 07, 1999.


Rob/planet, imange this if you can. Your hand is scanned and the receipt says paid in full. Like your debit card, this would be deducted from your checking account. We are almost at the stage were cash is used less as a money exchange. We use cards for almost all transactions and soon it will be numbers only. There will be no money exchanged by hands only credits. This is the future, soome might call it progress.

-- Mary T. (marytower@webtv.net), December 07, 1999.

Your hand is scanned and the receipt says paid in full. Like your debit card, this would be deducted from your checking account. That's quite possible, but would require more at the store than a standard barcode scanner. The story as reported strikes me as implausible. And in any case there's quite a gap between something being possible and it being made obligitory.

-- Rob (rob@planet.rob), December 07, 1999.


That depends on whether or not you are foolish enough to believe that computer accounts hold 'money' at all. The problem is that money has become a corrupted concept. I, too, use my card to purchase things all the time at the local store or the gas pump. The problem with this so-called money is that it is a blatant fraud.

The constitution defined the money system we Americans were supposed to use.

Article I, section 10: No state shall enter into any treaty, alliance, or confederation; grant letters of marque and reprisal; coin money; emit bills of credit; make anything but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts; pass any bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law impairing the obligation of contracts, or grant any title of nobility.

The problem with our current money supply is that it is based on a commodity with artificial rarity. That commodity is paper inscribed as Federal Reserve Notes. The problem with this money supply is that it is controlled exclusively by the cabal of bankers called the Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve can invent currency on a whim and force us to pay interest on it. This causes inflation.

Tim

-- Tim the Y2K nut (tmiley@yakko.cs.wmich.edu), December 07, 1999.


I thought I read once that Hillary is one of the board members at Wal-Mart.

-- Gay Boling (wilber@montanasky.net), December 07, 1999.

Why do we marginalize ourselves by repeating these third hand stories? If it is something that happened to you, describe it. If you heard the story, demand accuracy and contacts and enlighten us. THis "I heard" stuff embarasses both the writer and reader.

Tell your own stories, not someone else's.

-- gary elliott (gelliott@real.on.ca), December 07, 1999.


Gary E, the only person that should be embarrassed is you and your rude behavior. The only time I am embarrased is if I unintentially hurt someones felling and I pride myself on being a kind and loving person. No one asked to read my post, if it offends you so much go else where. The internet is for those who have questions, stories, seaking information etc. I guess we are all not as worldy as yourself to know all and to have experienced so much. Time to grow up Gary and learn some manners.

-- Mary T. (marytower@webtv.net), December 07, 1999.

Sorry, but there's nothing rude about doubting wacko rumors. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. If the only "evidence" you can come up with is to insult someone who asks for evidence, your case (such as it was) becomes even more stupid.

I assume you mean Hartselle, Alabama? Why not go there and check on it yourself?

-- Flint (flintc@mindspring.com), December 07, 1999.



Mary T, thicken your skin. All I asked for was some accurate thinking. Much the same as what you would ask for from a plumber you hired to install a new toilet in your bathroom. There are enough weird things going on in this world that are verifiable. We do not need our heads cluttered up with unverified stories. Nothing to do with rudeness. Everything to do with accuracy.

-- gary elliott (gelliott@real.on.ca), December 07, 1999.

Flint, really mature. Gary E. again what are you doing here? I am looking to have a conversation with somoeone who has something to contribute to the post on implants. Do you or do you not have anything to contribuite to this subject besides your poo poo attitude. This will be the last note to either of you, I have better things to do with my time.

-- Mary T. (marytower@webtv.net), December 07, 1999.

Folks:

Once again, Flint is correct. He is just being unusually nice. "What has happened to you Flint".

Best wishes,,,

Z

-- Z1X4Y7 (Z1X4Y7@aol.com), December 07, 1999.


Certainly glad we got Mary go and keep an eye on that plumber, putting the new toilet in her bathroom. Means there will be more accuracy here. "When the cashier totalled up his purchase, he instructed her to scan his hand. He then passed his hand across the scanner and the purchase was completed." If only Mary could answer," who is "her", and why should she scan his hand?"What was the sex of the cashier? The customer? Is it possible that the male cashier had a female hand? There is something, almost sensual, about this transaction. Either that, or Mary has wasted our time by posting a poorly thought out scenario. I unfortunately understand, because of Mary's lackadaisical attitude towards accuracy, that the information she has about the law about us all being implanted in the next year, shall never be shared with us. Pity. As for mark of the beast, perhaps Mary might think that perhaps that mark just may be plastic bullet marks, tear gas stains, or the mark of lost freedoms on an unruly populace.

Time to think, Mary.

-- gary elliott (gelliott@real.on.ca), December 07, 1999.


Mary:

Rumor=1: talk or opinion widely disseminated with no discernible source: Hearsay 2: a statement or report current without known authority for its truth. (Websters).

I believe your statement about implants pretty much falls under the above definition.

To ask for verification is not rude--it is common practice among people trying to separate fact from rumor.

You said you received information that these implants would become law within a year. Such a statement must be backed up with verifiable evidence if you want anyone to take you seriously. Sorry, but that's just the was it is.

-- Sam Mcgee (weissacre@gwtc.net), December 08, 1999.


Regarding the implants I thought that I had lost this but here it is, www.truinsight.com under intellegence.

-- Mary T. (marytower@webtv.net), December 08, 1999.

The URL you posted does not work.

-- Sam Mcgee (weissacre@gwtc.net), December 08, 1999.

truinsight.com/surveillance.htm

-- Mary T. (marytower@webtv.net), December 08, 1999.

Mary T

The truinsight article seems to confuse issues. There is nothing sinister about digital signatures: in fact quite the opposite. Digital signatures provide a means for an electronic message's recipient to authenticate that the message was really sent by the person it claims to be from. As such they are essential to electronic commerce, and a superb tool for protecting privacy and securing your computer against attack.

Digital signatures do not require "biochips" or the collection or storage of any biometric information.

For more information, try...

American Bar Association

Net scape public key cryptography tutorial

RSA Labs Links from University of London

Happy hunting!

-- Rob (rob@planet.rob), December 08, 1999.


Rob, thanks for your imput and the added info. Greatley appreciated. M

-- Mary T. (marytower@webtv.net), December 08, 1999.

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