ONE: A very wise and fascinating woman I met in Bok's chat room, who shall here be pseudo-named "SD", has noodled me along in improving my understanding of the y2k phenom. She has inspired the following thot:

Y2k has been a catalyst for the posters and lurkers here to come to an awareness that we are all inextricably enmeshed with the earth. We have divorced ourselves from the physical world over centuries (particularly the last two), and have come to regard ourselves as above the fortunes of the rest of creation. Doomers, ultimately, are the repentant among us. *****

TWO: "The desperate excuses to post WTO "protests" articles and contrails has really become stale. It is so off topic. One thread I could understand people being people but not the numerous."

-- Paula (chowbabe@pacbell.net), December 03, 1999.

Paula, they're chemtrails, not contrails. No one minds contrails on this forum (they may be altering weather patterns over time as air traffic picks up, but there are more immediate problems to consider at present).

I have utterly no idea what chemtrails are composed of, but I know that I've seen them over my house on three separate occasions within the past month. They are radically different from contrails in the sky *at the same time*. I contributed a brief description of the most recent of these events on a Thursday thread (chemtrail report from Pennsylvania). I also know that in the same time period, both of my children have been ill w/ deep whooping-type coughs and headaches. They are negative for strep. They do not have the flu. This has been going on for a month. Neighbours and family also complain of illnesses....

Look, Paula, who knows? I AM certain sure that a connection between these things is possible. And I am very worried in general terms about the welfare of my family through the aptly-named CDC. We've has a speculative picture on this forum for quite a while of how events might play out. So now that we have real events to map on the scenarios we've envisioned, it seems quite logical to do that very thing--whence the forum's interest in the WTO and Seattle, as well.

The NWC calls this kind of activity 'scenario planning' or 'tabletop exercises'. Well, the TB2000 Think Tank is doing it's own strategizing. LEAD, FOLLOW, OR GET OUT OF THE WAY.

As my son would say, "who died and made you Queen?" (grin).

ps. Dehydrated onions were GONE from my grocery store yesterday (but I did see a guy loading up the back of his van w/ about twenty cases of Heinz beans in tomato sauce). *****

THREE: Laura--time to wrestle?

-- silver ion (helpme.r@nting.now), December 03, 1999

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Who died and made me queen? Oh yes, silver ion I am JUST so powerful in deleting off topic posts. My expressing my view on the off topics and asking they be stopped did not warrant such a juvenile remark.

How old did you say you are?

There has not been one valid "glimpse at scenarios" being chewed over that I have come across. There has been MUCH bringing in of personal fringe political beefs, displays of outright piss poor education, and an abundant supply of paranoia. It has all boiled down to the "police and military have plots and will get'cha."

Some people have absolutely lost their grip. That my dear is a fact.

So you claim your children have a mysterious illness and solve this by posting and engaging in fringe discussions, amongst people asking how to poison their wells, eat dogs and cats, pepper stray some loose poodle roaming, and so forth? This being an example of your intellect, care, and concern for those children? DO discuss contrails with the guy asking about well poison, I am sure you'll gain ever so much pertinant information towards the well being of those children.

-- Paula (chowbabe@pacbell.net), December 03, 1999.

GAWD, YES, YES, YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is HIGH TIME for you women to stop with all the chemtrails, and get naked, get down, get muddy, and GO FOR IT!!!! You spend too much time looking UP, when you should be looking DOWN!!!!!!

Gawd, silver ion and Laura, their sleek bodies oiled, their furies, their passions. Wrestling in mud seasoned with tomato sauce....

-- King of Spain (madrid@aol.cum), December 03, 1999.

AND PAULA TOO!!!! YEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!

-- King of Spain (madrid@aol.cum), December 03, 1999.

What happened in the chat room late last night? Looked like troll spam totally took over.

-- ? (?@?.?), December 03, 1999.

GO KoS---hope you've got plenty of water for all that mud.lol

-- Curly~Q (Curly@Q.COM), December 03, 1999.

From earlier "Y2K-WTO dry run in Seattle" thread:

"According to Defense Department documents obtained by CNN, 131 U.S. Army, 27 U.S. Air Force, and eight U.S. Navy personnel were sent to Seattle to perform roles from ordnance disposal to standing by for possible chemical or biological attack by terrorist groups."

Tell me this is off topic. Tell me that if bad code brings infrastructure down, it won't be like this. Go ahead, tell me.

-- silver ion (alldoner@nting.now), December 03, 1999.

Tyler Durden has already pointed out this article (good one!), but did not include any text in his post:

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=001urH

Here's the URL to get to the excerpt below [Fair use, etc.]:

http://www.koin.com/news/stories/news-19991203-054059.html

Portland WTO Protesters Plan More Marches Police Ready for Anything After Seattle Battle David Krough, Staff Writer, KOIN 6 News

[snip]

"Portland police meanwhile, are holding on to their stash of tear gas after a memo was sent from the Seattle P.D. saying they were low on reserves after the melee of Tuesday and Wednesday.

Several Portland police officers observed the tactics used by Seattle officers over the past two days, to learn how to control large unruly mobs in civil unrest. SWAT teams generally disperse crowds using gas, rubber bullets and beanbag shotgun rounds.

Although police refuse to discuss the details of such tactics, Lieutenant Greg Hendricks of the Portland Police Bureau says this week was somewhat of a wake-up call.

"What it did was it showed the Portland police what can happen at anytime in anyplace in their city," Hendricks tells KOIN.

Fearing Y2K mayhem, Portland police say they intend to hang on to their pepper-and tear gas-stash for now."

NOT off topic.

-- silver ion (okitsovernow.b@lieve.me), December 03, 1999.

SHORTAGES!!! Teargas, gasmasks, rubber bullets in short supply!! GOt em? This is the sign that "IT has begun". :-) It is however reassuring to think that with all the orchestration that is posited onthis forum or the Seattle events, if its true the lcops can't even keep themsleves in tear gas.

Don't know whether to laugh or cry.

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-- SH (squirrel@huntr.com), December 03, 1999.