The Seattle Mayhem is continuing with today over 400 to over 500 people being arrested and the majority of these are people who are exercising their rights to peacably assemble. The mayor has given another night when all of downtown Seattle is under curfew from 7:00 to dawn tomarrow morning. During the morning there was several small protests which was quickly broken up but then came the afternoon with larger protests. There was a AFL-CYO had a protest down near the docks. There was protests downtown but smaller in number in different places downtown. Tonight the police are trying to clear the downtown area and arresting the protesters who might make a stand. They are using Pepper Spray, Tear Gas, Concushion Greniades, Rubber Bullets, etc. It is interesting to me is how quickly was curfew instutited last night and today how quickly the Police are NOT letting people really to protest. This is our constitutional Right to address our grievences. What happens if the police thru Seattle is now taking away our right to peacably address our grievences. Another one of our rights being taken away. This here in the city of Seattle is in the name of protecting the President, protecting the delegates, and protecting business. And today the media has portrayed all the protesters who have tried to protest today in a bad light. Th only good people by the media are the ones who work do their job and then go home and never say a thing. It is interesting that once they instituted their curfew and civil emergency order then how quickly they took away our basic freedom of speech. Now the Police hold the cards in downtown Seattle. I NEVER IN MY LIFE THOUGHT I WOULD EVER SEE THIS. When one person if they would want to protest against the global cooperations, the coming Global World signified here by the WTO would end up being arrested just if they opened there mouth in public on this. The arrests soon will probably be over 1,000 people. NOW THINK HOW WILL IT BE IN OUR CITIES BECAUSE OF Y2K and THE COMING COLLAPSE.

-- Kayla (kaylam@jetcity.com), December 01, 1999

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Kayla,

Have you ever heard of a Readers Digest version?

-- Richard Noggin (RichardNoggin@hockeymail.com), December 01, 1999.

Kayla:

For the big picture, decipher these words. The clue to understanding is found in the book of Daniel.

MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN.

-- (Kurt.Borzel@gems8.gov.bc.ca), December 01, 1999.

"And this is the writing that was written, MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN.

This is the interpretation of the thing: MENE; God hath numbered thy kingdom, and finished it. TEKEL; Thou art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting. PERES; Thy kingdom is divided, and given to the Medes and Persians."

-- Daniel 5 (revelations16@hotmail.com), December 01, 1999.

I just posted this on another WTO/Seattle demonstration problems:

Yes, indeed,... small groups of violent and opportunistic folks looking for any old cloak to throw on in order to hide among the legitimate "non-violent" demonstrators. However uncomfortable I am with crystal-ball-gazing I don't think it's much of a stretch to assume that during any mass movements of people (like a demonstration, or an evacuation) we can expect to see folks who like to throw things, burn things, and steal things. Depending on your perspective it exemplifies badly trained people (as to acceptable behavior), or people well-trained to survive on the street in their own particular chaotic world.

Pick your perspective, and remember always to keep an eye out for low-flyin' crazies. --She in the sheet upon the hilltop,...


-- Donna (moment@pacbell.net), December 01, 1999.

blah blah blah god blah blah blah

-- D E F (eattherich@mailcity.com), December 01, 1999.

Kayla, here's hoping the Marines are given license to come in and quell your pubescent panderings.I would actually pay to see it. You make the average, hard working taxpayer want to wretch. Your posting is full of mistruths. It is not your constitutional right to smash windows merely for attention. Good journalists do far more than act as a mouthpiece for ridiculous, obnoxious-minority causes like yours.The AFL-CIO gathering had little in common with yours, and theirs was not intended to be the media event yours was.

And lastly, your moronic correlation to y2k earns you the distinction of being teen airhead of the millennium.

Here's hoping you get a clue....and then get a job.

Regards, as always.

-- Bad Company (johnny@shootingstar.com), December 01, 1999.

God is never blah blah blah.

-- preparing (preparing@home.com), December 01, 1999.

Kayla,

Talk to Y2k Pro, he can probably pull some strings and get you on at Burger King!!!!

-- Richard Noggin (RichardNoggin@hockeymail.com), December 01, 1999.

Kayla I understand what you are saying...don't know why these other folks can not comprehend it...maybe they work for the government instigators, freedom of assembly is in the Bill of Rights, and still have seen no law that says i can't have a gas mask, oh except in seattle, overnight law

-- sandy (rstyree@overland.net), December 01, 1999.

Kayla, after watching the video clips and reading the in-depth reports of events in Seattle, I see your point on this one.

Ignore these other idiots who have no clue as to the real story and who try to twist truth to lies and turn you into a window smasher. In Shakespeare's time, they would be baiting bears.

As a journalist, I understand what you are saying.

-- (normally@ease.notnow), December 01, 1999.

Dear Bad Company:

I am truly sorry that you are uninformed as to the events which you have seen fit to comment upon. The initial protests, fully within the scope of the Constitution, were peacable, quiet and wonderful expressioins of Constitutional Speach. They were marred by a VERY TINY minority of people, trying for maximum media exposure.

These idiots succeeded in getting the attention, and the schools were instrumental in letting the kids see that people were getting away with idiocy. The kids then started to participate and generated all of the wonderful footage of rioting last night.

Today, more reasonable people tried to exercise their 1st Ammendment RIGHT and were denied, WITHOUT DUE PROCESS, this right. I most assuredly hope that you never feel the need to inform the rest of the citizenry that you have been wronged. Or that you never feel the need to express your viewpoint to duly elected or appointed officials who are NOT doing what you and others consider the will of the people.

In the future, would you mind delaying your comments until you have fully awakened, or have acquired what would pass as a supcion of fact, with which to energize at least 2 neurons to generate a cogent comment. Always assuming that you can FIND the second neuron.

Thank you for your consideration in this simple matter.

Night train

-- jes a constitutionalist footballer (nighttr@in.lane), December 01, 1999.

I live in the Seattle area..

I'm a firm believer in constitutional rights.. but it's a little hard to hold back when your city gets trashed and becomes the laughing stock of the world.

I don't have a problem with protestors blocking roads, forming human chains and all the rest.. When it came to destroying downtown though, enough was enough.

The damage was done by 200 bums.. Not the people that were legitimently protesting. In a perfect world, the police should have cracked down on the bums Monday, and got out of the way during the peaceful demonstrations.

'Pretty hard to do when the cops are doing 12 hour shifts and the Mayor and Chief of Police have their heads up their butts.

I guess I agree with your points Kayla.. But you have look at it in context. If I was a cop, and some protestor started verbally abusing me, I'd probably club/gas them as well. What would YOU do if you had 40 guys and thousands of demonstrators all around you?

Bryce

-- Bryce (Bryce@nospam.com), December 02, 1999.

Bad Company: How eloquently argued. Yes, most convincing.

Bryce: It's hard not to sympathise with your position, and for what it's worth, I think you're correct in the situation that you describe. But you forgot to add "What do you do if you are a police officer with plenty of backup and there is a group of pacified and kneeling people in front of you offering no threat at all to you or your buddies?"

A) Arrest/detain them?

B) Calmly spray them with an irritant chemical in what I can only see as punitive torture.

They weren't being discriminate. You or your friends and family could have been in that kneeling group, and I've yet to see footage of police tackling the actual rioters at close quarters. They're dispersing the rioters, sure, but they then appear to be torturing anyone they can find who's not in uniform. It's understandable, but it's wrong and it's deeply concerning.

You have my sympathy because you are a victim in this. But that doesn't make you right.

-- Colin MacDonald (roborogerborg@yahoo.com), December 02, 1999.