Disarming the people ?

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Quick question that I am sure has already been talked about ; Is "martial law" really a possibility ? Would people actually try to disarm the public ? Would they actually search homes for weapons to confiscate ? If so, I better think of a few good hiding places. If the doo doo hits the fan (worst case scenario), I am NOT giving up my way of protecting my family.

-- Cody Bierman (mindcrime@uswest.net), November 22, 1999

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Deer hunting has brought a great purchase bargins nation wide on shotgun slugs and long range deer rifle rounds.We are a nation of long range hunters and therefor a nation of snipers.There will be enough of us who will refuse to surrender the means to remain free.

-- zoobie (zoobiezoob@yahoo.com), November 22, 1999.

A certainty sir.

If you are prudent, you will not share this information with neighbours or associates. Save the use of weapons for absolute life- or-death emergencies.

You are allowed to defend yourself from imminent grave dangers. You will answer to God for what you do to your fellow man.

-- (Kurt.Borzel@gems8.gov.bc.ca), November 22, 1999.


My take on the issue is that there is no way to enforce martial law on the entire country. The "powers to be" have decided that they have 120 cities that they must maintain control of to maintain "their" power structure and all of it's fringe benefits. So unless you live in any of those 120 cities, I wouldn' worry about it. I thank God that I do not. I never was much of a big city person. They are nice to visit, but i never had the desire to live in any of them. This was the sole reason I began prepping back in March, most of us are ON OUR OWN!

-- Vern (bacon17@ibm.net), November 22, 1999.

And the police and good people in the armed forces know it as well.Not even gungho young grunts are going to be keen to disarm the populace by force.Better to wait and disarm at food distribution centres.

-- zoobie (zoobiezooob@yahoo.com), November 22, 1999.

Cody... The idea of gun cofiscation is always spoken on this board, and others. However, it is just about as likely as a revolution coming to pass. This country is just to disjointed. (Spread out that is) maybe in the cities, but this is a VERY BIG LAND! The gun confiscation could only happen in smaller towns where the people could be contained,and perhaps out numbered. In big cities there wouldnt be enough people to do the confiscating, and in the open country ,they wouldnt have a chance of gathering enough guns to make a difference. The same is true of a revoultion in this country. It just wont happen Not a chance!

-- Not a chance (notachance@dot.com), November 23, 1999.


I for see this happening in small cities and towns across the land if TSHTF:

The police and the sheriffs dept. guestion supermarket checkers, UPS drivers, gas station attendants, gunshop owners, etc. to find out who has stocked up for Y2K. (Note how this flatfoot approached will work no mattter fried the computers get.) Armed with this information, the cops then commence to raiding places they think will have gasoline, food, guns/ammo. Naturally this bandit raiding by the cops doesn't sit well with the locals, and by lunch time everybody is shooting everybody else. By the morrow the cops are gone, everyone but the survivalist types have run out of ammo, and wild dog packs are roaming the streets unapposed.

-- Ocotillo (peeling@out.===), November 23, 1999.


If nessessary the authorities will offer ration coupons for weapons and ammo. or guns into butter!

-- H fats Kissinger (draconionsolutions@uselesseaters.com), November 23, 1999.

Hey Not a chance:

If you think the good ole' US of A is a large "disjointed" country, what is your opinion of China? China has had a recent (1949) revolution and certainly has gun confiscation. Don't pretend such things can't happen here. How many will perish in our own Great Leap Forward?

-- Chris Tisone (c_tisone@hotmail.com), November 23, 1999.


I think it is very possible if the rumors I hear about UN troops practicing on American soil are true. I also heard that most of our American troops who want to protect us are being depoyed to other countries . This would leave UN troops to disarm the US. Its just a thought. Does anyone else have any info on this?

-- tired of worrying (halyman@bellsouth.net), November 23, 1999.

At least the U.N. wear those cute little blue berets so we can readily pick them out as targets. I don't believe gun confiscation is as likely as a gun turn in where people trade guns for food. However, this will not work.

Assume TSHTF due to Y2K. The govt controls the big cities. The small towns like my town of Allegan, MI, are on their own. Where is the food?

Right...Allegan is farm country, and for the people around here, deer hunting is like a religious event, hence lots of firearms. I went to a gun store yesterday to peruse their fine selection. My next paycheck is already spoken for. The store didn't close at 9:00 PM like they were supposed to. There were about 30 people in the store at the time. I'll bet those clerks were there at least until 10:30 PM.

The food is here. The guns are here. The big cities are superfluous. If TSHTF, the people of this community will band together for the common defense. A militia will spontaneously sprout up. The farmers will request, and receive, whatever they need in exchange for keeping the community fed. We will all be in this together, and everyone will be asked to do their part.

Let the feds have Chicago. Nobody here cares about Chicago. Let them offer us butter for guns. We have our own butter. We don't need anything they have.

-- Tim the Y2K nut (tmiley@yakko.cs.wmich.edu), November 23, 1999.



Really depends where you live. Much as I like to tease the tin foil hat brigade (contrails! CONTRAILS!) I do accept that in many large cities in the USA - and just possibly the UK - there most likely *will* be large concentrations of troops to hand pre-rollover. Most likely out of sight, but ready to roll to quosh rioting, looting, terrorists, religious uprisings, communists, alien invaders or even more unlikely events like independent political parties gaining credibility. Note that I don't necessarily view this as a BAD thing.

But I really can't see them coming a-knocking on your door to confiscate your weapon. If things got that bad, they'd hardly go out looking from trouble when they could find it at any supermarket, distribution centre or relief storage depot.

Think about the casualties they'd suffer. Sure, if they were nice about it (knock knock "Hi, we're collecting weapons for disadvantaged Canadians. No, really, give us your guns."), only a small proportion of people would open fire. But how many casualties would they accept before they just started performing RBF? One per platoon? And once the guns start going off, I'd be willing to bet that every Joe Sixpack in the neighbourhood would turn into Rambo and go looking for some green fatigues to shoot at, especially if he hasn't had a TV fix for a few hours. It's just too horrible.

Sure, I believe that your government wants to take away your guns. But you've got a LOT of them, and I also believe that they still fear you too much to try and do it all at once. Far better to legislate them away, so they end up with the situation here in the UK where only psychos, criminals, and the most-priveleged have guns. :(

-- Colin MacDonald (roborogerborg@yahoo.com), November 23, 1999.


Get real. By the "Ban The Gun" Folks own admissions, there is well in excess of 400 million firearms on the loose in the country today. If, on the totally unlikely event of the UN or TPTB decide to 'disarm' America, they are going to find themselves in a hell of a mess.

We as Americans, singularly, might go along with a call for disarmament in shelters, provided that our own military and police are the ones requesting it. However, any foriegn influence demanding our disarmament will find themselves faced with the best armed, largest militia in the history of the world since the Chinese Army. Doesn't it strike you that no one has ever really tried to invade us during modern (post 1900) times? Just think of that movie 'Red Dawn', you'll have no worries of any big,bad UN folks rolling in T-72's down main street...

-- Billy-Boy (Rakkasan@yahoo.com), November 23, 1999.


In reference to Halyman:www.ExucutiveOrders.org Presidential Decision Directive 25 enables the U.S Military to be moved under U.N. command without congressional approval. See also:H.R. 2655 Seperation of Powers Restoration Act

-- Nunya (nunya@nunya.ya), November 24, 1999.

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