Y2K No Threat To Telephony

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Y2K No Threat To Telephony
By Sylvia Dennis, Newsbytes.
November 22, 1999

Research by the International Telecommunications Union (ITU) indicates that international calls are unlikely to be affected by the Y2K IT problem.

The ITU said that its research has determined that global telecommunications companies are confident that international calls will get through, despite possible local problems in isolated elements of the world's networks.

The announcement comes in the wake of the conclusion of a global testing program coordinated by the ITU's Year 2000 Taskforce at a meeting held at Inmarsat Headquarters in London.

At the November 18 meeting, which wrapped up the ITU's testing work, officials said that many the world's international telephone carriers have worked since March 1998 to simulate the rollover into the year 2000 and other critical dates.

For their tests, telecommunication companies in North America, Africa, Asia Pacific, Europe, Middle East, the Indian sub-continent and Central & South America linked international gateway voice and data switches, following Y2K testing standards agreed upon by the ITU Year 2000 Taskforce.

Mick Heduan, the chairman of the ITU Y2K Taskforce Inter-carrier testing working group, said that more than 140 global inter-carrier tests have been concluded across numerous combinations of international voice and data switches.

All tests were successfully executed without any Y2K errors using the guidelines developed by the taskforce. The program, the ITU said, has complemented the thousands of extensive tests conducted by carriers on their domestic interconnect and local networks.

In a press statement, Heduan said that the initiative signals another key milestone in the Y2K readiness of the telecommunications industry to continue offering services and support to all customers as the industry heads towards the next millennium.

The ITU said that the outcome confirms the industry's forecast that Y2K-related concerns are unlikely to impact international calling in any major way during the century date change or leap year periods.

The union said that possible areas for concern have been highlighted in a number of well-publicized reports.

Overall, however, the ITU said that Y2K testing indicates that there are unlikely to be any difficulties experienced in the vast majority of cases, "although there are a number of countries that have either not shared their Y2K readiness plans or are experiencing difficulties in assessing their readiness, particularly in the developing world."

Further details of the ITU's Y2K plans can be found on the ITU's Web site at http://www.itu.int/y2k/intercarrier_sub_groups.htm .

 



-- Y2K Pro (y2kpro@censored.com), November 22, 1999

Answers

Response to More information the censors do not want you to see....

I work for the largest telephony company in the world.

We are not finished yet !

-- snooze button (alarmclock_2000@yahoo.com), November 22, 1999.


Response to More information the censors do not want you to see....

Pro

You remind me of someone that is pouting. Keep whats left of your chin up and read the DOC assessment of the US Y2K economic potential. It will brighten up your day.

-- brian (imager@home.com), November 22, 1999.


Response to More information the censors do not want you to see....

"The ITU said that its research has determined that global telecommunications companies are confident that international calls will get through, despite possible local problems in isolated elements of the world's networks."

And what if you are one of the people who is effected by "local problems in isolated elements of the world's networks".

why didn't the ITU say "there will be no problems at all", instead?

-- C. Hill (pinionsmachine@hotmail.com), November 22, 1999.


Response to More information the censors do not want you to see....

Ah.

An improvement, Y2K Pro Lite. "News."

Something marginally interesting... even if P.R.ish in nature.

Yours and other trollish-one's persistent flames will get axed.

When you contributed to DomerSucks a.k.a. YouKnow Who's Forum spaming project on Saturday, you crossed the tolerance line, IMHO.

Get it?

Go home.

Diane, no longer tolerating the troll litter

(You Knowwho, debunk@doomeridiots.com--Ok, my last post unless it is deleted. )

Not deleted but still.. it trolls for thee.

P.S. Above thread title changed by Sysop to more accurately reflect topic: Y2K No Threat To Telephony



-- Diane J. Squire (y2ktimebomb2000@yahoo.com), November 22, 1999.


Response to More information the censors do not want you to see....

If there were censors on this forum and they didn't want me to see this information--how do you explain its presence here?

Since it IS here, let me put it through the mumbleizer for you.

Mumble, mumble. . . international calls are unlikely to be affected by. . . Y2K, mumble, mumble, global telecommunications companies are confident that international calls will get through, despite possible local problems. . . .mumble, mumble, [testing] confirms the industry's forecast that Y2K-related concerns are unlikely to impact international calling in any major way during [Y2K]. . . mumble, mumble, "although there are a number of countries that have either not shared their Y2K readiness plans or are experiencing difficulties in assessing their readiness, particularly in the developing world."

Sounds to me as if these folks aren't quite as confident as they say.

-- Old Git (anon@spamproblems.com), November 22, 1999.



Response to More information the censors do not want you to see....

Snooze,

What Telephony would that be? Come on. If you have some REAL information, please share it like zoobie shared his information about Cuna Mutual Insurance Company in Madison, Wisconsin.

If the phone company you work for is going down, don't you think we have the right to know about it?

-- (Polly@troll.com), November 22, 1999.


Response to More information the censors do not want you to see....

Go ahead and delete this trolling garbage, Diane. Nobody here would complain!!

-- (brett@miklos.org), November 22, 1999.

Response to More information the censors do not want you to see....

Translation:

This looks like good news - let's delete it!

-- Y2K Pro (y2kpro@censored.com), November 22, 1999.


Response to More information the censors do not want you to see....

Brett,

News is one thing. Spamming attacks for "denial of service" are another.

Left this "offering" from Y2K Pro, because it needs to "get" the message.

Slow learner. Not particularly surprising.

Diane

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), November 22, 1999.


It's also the oldest in America.

-- snooze button (alarmclock_2000@yahoo.com), November 22, 1999.


It's BU&U, HAL.

-- snooze button (alarmclock_2000@yahoo.com), November 22, 1999.

Good news! They (the international telecommunications industry) claim the phone systems will work....good, and I'm glad they tested things....but are they sure now that they will be transmitting accurate data - in the places where the data actually gets through? (Remember, they are all predicting "local failures" too!)

Left unanswered is th eprobelm of incorrect financial data getting through to previously compliant and fixed databases here....if the international lines were down, at least the data couldn't get through to corrupt good data.

-- Robert A. Cook, PE (Marietta, GA) (cook.r@csaatl.com), November 22, 1999.


Local super-reassuring newscast after the movie showed clip from a telecom expert's speech: "If you're making a local call, you can be sure it will go through, but if you're making long distance--" and cut to another scene. I sure would like to know what followed that "but."

-- Shimrod (shimrod@lycosmail.com), November 22, 1999.

News is one thing. Spamming attacks for "denial of service" are another.

LOL, looks more like "news", i.e. spin and other worthless polly drivel designed for disruption.

Left this "offering" from Y2K Pro, because it needs to "get" the message.

Understood. I don't think it's quite sinking in, though.

-- (brett@miklos.org), November 22, 1999.


Pro, grow up. Your thread still stands, sans your original tantrum of a title.

This, even though your past behavior should warrant a deletion of anything you post here, on sight. Zero Tolerance.

Sysop #4

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-- Stealth Sysop (home@TB2K.com), November 22, 1999.



Y2K Tro...um Pro,

(applause, applause!) I see you and Doomie just graduated from the same troll school. Technique gives it away, you know?

Like this one: Troll obnoxiously, for a while, then after you get yourself deleted/booted off the forum, start posting more reasonably, to make it look like this is the kind of posts that the sysops deleted.

I hope you aren't under the impression that it was a progressive education you were receiving. You see, five years ago, this would have been considered a "slick trick". Now, it's just over-worn and passe'.

Have you considered asking for your tuition money back?

-- Bokonon (bokonon@my-Deja.com), November 22, 1999.


Bok,

You forgot the first part of it. You post reasonable posts and get deleted, and then troll obnoxiously, and then go back to posting reasonable posts and see that there is no difference.

I'm sorry you are so dim that you can't see the truth when it's right under your nose.

-- (you@don't know. who), November 22, 1999.


A note to those who cannot help themselves and use unproductive means as a way to deal with trolls such as Y2k Pro.

Your name calling and baiting does NOT help the cause. You're only making it harder for we, Sysops, and others on this board.

If your posts do NOTHING but add to the level of anger, distrust, or disrupt the level of civil discorse then you too will be deleted.

GROW UP.

Stealth Sysop



-- Stealth Sysop (home@TB2k.com), November 22, 1999.


Stealth,

You can't hide the fact that you intentially changed the title of this thread even though the thread itself is just NEWS.

YOU are the one who is the WRONG.

-- (you@know.who again), November 22, 1999.


Delete this thread please.

-- snooze button (alarmclock_2000@yahoo.com), November 22, 1999.

you@know.who again, Grow up.

I'm not hiding anything. I CHANGED THE TITLE OF THIS THREAD. I can do that. Not only can I do that but I WILL DO THAT.

Got it?

Or, are you under the misimpression that rules here aren't enforced?

Stealth.


-- Stealth Sysop (home@TB2k.com), November 22, 1999.


WHAT RULES?

That you reserve the right to change people words??

-- (you@know.who), November 22, 1999.


The title of this story is "Y2K No Threat To Telephony" and it should be posted as such.

I don't think I've EVER seen a Y2K related post here deleted, good news or bad.

But posts that do nothing but more than name-calling or other kindergarten level crap SHOULD BE DELETED! Grow up kids.

Rock on Sysops.

Tick... Tock... <:00=

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), November 22, 1999.


I know it seem (in your minds) that you're doing the right thing. But a higher power has been informed of what is going on around here and boy are you going to be in for a surprise.

-- (you@know.who), November 22, 1999.

I resigned my position with one of the Regional Bell Operating Companies, hint: South-Central US! Was working as a Communications Technician/Engineer in one of the busiest Network Operations Centers in the US. Our job was to program trunk line circuits within central switching offices (local exchanges) for inteconnections between other switching offices and other telephone companies (providing local and long-distance services).

Among the many reasons for my departure from one of the largest phone companies in the world was the fact that the company's position was, is ... if we replace ALL of the desktops in the company, then by default, the company will be compliant. When I raised concern to my supervisor about the deeper problems NOT being addressed, I was subjected to a tirade of abuse. Was informed that I was merely a very small cog in an enormous wheel that was run by 'experts.' Obviously possessing an MS in Electronics Engineering with a specialty in telecommuncations system did not qualify me as anything more than peon. Also, please note that a large part of my job was repogramming switches after replacement of controller computers in the central office for y2k remediation. No work on embedded systems, no work on individual switch controllers, only desktops used for overall switch monitoring, command, and control; both in the Network Operations Center and the central office.

Operations Center personnel staffing is spread exceedingly thin ... work loads and quotas are mind-numbing. Mistakes and errors are rampant. Nerves are toast. They can barely keep up with 'normal' day-to-day operations ... when TSHTF there is no way that they are going to keep up with additional work-loads.

Bottom line: limited local exchange service MAY continue, but many of the interconnects out of your neighborhood probably won't.

-- hiding in plain (sight@edge. of no-where), November 22, 1999.


Humm, Sysop #4.

Maybe we just need to go back to global delete of the Twim Spammers, and forget about reading anything the "odd" troll-couple posts.

Diane

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), November 22, 1999.


Snooze Button,

What exactly do you mean by not done? Network, Infrastructure, Facilties, Towers or what?

-- lrkr (abc@here.com), November 22, 1999.


Stealth Sysop,

The point of this thread has nothing to do with Y2K.

Why? It is simply a means for Y2K shmo and ykw to put up a thread to taunt the SYSOPS into a discussion about censorship. This board is not about censorship it is about Y2K.

I post taunts to Y2K shmo so that you will delete the threads completely.

Y2K shmo and ykw (if they are indeed different posters) should not be permitted to post ANYTHING to this forum after the stunts they pulled over the weekend.

I applaud your efforts at trying to maintain the forum.

Please pull the plug on these bozos!!!!!

-- nothere nothere (notherethere@hotmail.com), November 22, 1999.


Eh?

-- citizen (lost@sea.com), November 22, 1999.

Some of these folks must have taken Monday off...

Please pay attention to the post from the retired RBOC central office employee. There is more to assessing, remediating and testing telephony issues than fixing the %&^#@ desktops. Its not just about billing, folks.

One of the IT issues that has come about is the discussion of differing methodologies in repairing and testing and what happens when it is all put back together. The same applies here. There is more standardization than with IT applications and hardware, but not that much more. There are also more than just two major vendors and two or three carriers.

I applaud the work that has been done so far, but... they really don't know if all the kings horses and all the kings men put ol Humpty Dumpty back together and will he still be an egg that supports voice and DATA traffic. Convergence of voice and data may be a fine thing.. or not

-- Nancy (wellsnl@hotmail.com), November 22, 1999.


Tell Mitel Telecom that you need the 2 x primary rate card iMagination PABX, version 206. Ask them if it's Y2K compliant. Then ask them how much they'll compensate you if it's not.

-- Laughing on the inside (not@this.time), November 23, 1999.

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