Well I decided to go out with a fizzle and admit that I'll never convince any of you. But I can thank you for paying your taxes. I will take my paid 5 day vacation/weekend next week. I just got back from a 4 day weekend last week (paid). I am a public employee. I worked hard to get to where I am, I finished graduate school at all levels, and I deserve to be where I am now. You have such a bad attitude towards us, but you do not realize that public employees are tax payers too. Our agencies pay taxes, and we have to pay the same amount when we go to the bar to have a beer after work. Most of us earn an honest dollar. Like any place there are a few bad apples.

Speaking of bad apples, Ed, if I worked in Richland, I would be wearing a kevlar vest every day worried that you are going postal. If you hate your job, quit and work for someone else.

Craig, you make a good argument on behalf of mass transit and subsidies. I maintain my argument that there is a place for transit and there is a place where it doesn't work. Like I said way back when, there are only three places in the state where there is enough density to support it, Seattle, Vancouver and Spokane, Spokane is marginal.

Zowie, Learn a thing or two, formulate your own oppinion, if you are a pilot, please don't fly around populated areas, and learn english, ebonics will get you no where.

dvbz, hang in there, we'll win in court. Unfortunately for 695ers, they'll probably not get the same turnout the 2nd time around. The polls that they so dearly loved to quote even said that 33% of their support came from people who rarely if ever vote. They'll most likely think that their effort was futile the first time and not show up a second time. that would be too bad, because hopefully the 2nd go round would probably be better written and more thought out. Maybe something that even I could support.

-- theman (theman@wuzzup.com), November 18, 1999

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So were the bad apples for citing facts and the truth. And you and Jeff are the good apples for calling names when your arguments don't water.

Ed - I'll be wearing a vest worried that your the real nut here.

-- Ed (ed_bridges@yahoo.com), November 18, 1999.

Thewho? Thewhat?

If it smells like it, looks like it, oow don't step in it!

Don't, I mean do, let the door hit you anywhere on the way out!

-- Mr. Bill (bspencer@kalama.com), November 18, 1999.

"Well I decided to go out with a fizzle and admit that I'll never convince any of you." Don't give up! Just find a rational argument rather than the cr*p you've been shoveling, and you may very well convince someone. It's harder when your arguments are poor.

" I am a public employee. I worked hard to get to where I am, I finished graduate school at all levels, and I deserve to be where I am now." No problem with your self-esteem, obviously.

-- (mark842@hotmail.com), November 18, 1999.

i speak for many if the stupid courts who by the way cant lock up anyone guilty..... over turn 695...... the will be many and i mean many people like myself that wil NEVER vote again!!!!!!!!!

-- note to all real e-mail (mlvc72ss@aol.com), November 19, 1999.

The Man, I understand that you have put much time and effort to get where you are today. But no one owes you a living. It sounds like you would have problems if you had to get a real job. I, like you work for a government contractor. I'm a Union member also. But I realize that no one can guarantee your future. Obviously your employer thinks you provide a service that is at least as valuable as what you get paid. If the service you provide is not worth what you get paid, you should keep your eyes open for a new job.

-- Sig Landoe (slandoe@bentonrea.com), November 19, 1999.

themouse--"Well I decided to go out with a fizzle and admit that I'll never convince any of you. But I can thank you for paying your taxes. I will take my paid 5 day vacation/weekend next week. I just got back from a 4 day weekend last week (paid). I am a public employee. I worked hard to get to where I am, I finished graduate school at all levels, and I deserve to be where I am now. You have such a bad attitude towards us, but you do not realize that public employees are tax payers too. Our agencies pay taxes, and we have to pay the same amount when we go to the bar to have a beer after work. Most of us earn an honest dollar. Like any place there are a few bad apples."

Umm, if this is all you've understood from your time reading this forum, I guess it's probably for the best that you're leaving.

Let me let you in on a little secret, not everyone (probably not even the majority) on this forum (pro-695 side) think government employees are "bad." I think it's safe to say that many of us think there are just *too many* government employees (good, bad, or indifferent) performing *too many* functions with marginal value. The fact that you see this as the electorate having "a bad attitude" towards government employees says far more about *you* than it does about them.

"Craig, you make a good argument on behalf of mass transit and subsidies. I maintain my argument that there is a place for transit and there is a place where it doesn't work. Like I said way back when, there are only three places in the state where there is enough density to support it, Seattle, Vancouver and Spokane, Spokane is marginal."

Not to flog a dead horse, but I find it quite ironic that you seem to believe that Craig wouldn't generally agree with the statement above.

"Zowie, Learn a thing or two, formulate your own oppinion, if you are a pilot, please don't fly around populated areas, and learn english, ebonics will get you no where."

Pot, kettle, black.

"dvbz, hang in there, we'll win in court. Unfortunately for 695ers, they'll probably not get the same turnout the 2nd time around. The polls that they so dearly loved to quote even said that 33% of their support came from people who rarely if ever vote. They'll most likely think that their effort was futile the first time and not show up a second time. that would be too bad, because hopefully the 2nd go round would probably be better written and more thought out. Maybe something that even I could support."

Pretty nice crystal ball you've got there. . .perhaps next time (yeah, I know you're not coming back) you could present a *shred* of evidence to support your assertion that "we'll win in court."

-- Brad (knotwell@my-deja.com), November 19, 1999.