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http://www.rendon.com/docs/tmc062398.html:Use The Internet. Here your array of options are limited only by your imagination. Use national, regional, or local ISPs to place a spokesperson on-line. For example if one gets into the AOL chat section, then one has access to 11 million subscribers. Additional methods of dissemination include: Chat room, Bulletin Boards (BBS) and web-sites, including the savings and educational forums.
-- Ron Schwarz (rs@clubvb.com.delete.this), November 13, 1999
Gee Ron...if I didn't know you better I'd suspect you were implying that the Rendon Group is trying to pull the wool over our eyes. What was the title of that section, Y2K Shilling 101?
-- yep (@ .), November 13, 1999.
I have questions about the Rendon Group?If the Rendon Group has been hired to publicize the Y2K Community Conversations campaign, wouldn't that be paid from public money?
Here's what I want to know:
What is their stated purpose with respect to Y2K Community Conversations? That is, what outcomes are they being paid to evoke?
Have they been successful thus far? That is, are the desired outcomes being realized?
How much are they being paid? That would be in the public domain, would it not?
Who authorized the payment?
Critt
-Transparency - Love it or leave it.
-- Critt Jarvis (middleground@critt.com), July 15, 1999
-- (archives@from.July), November 13, 1999.
Kim Jeanes (KJ) begins speaking and the Vet's Hall comes to order. Panelists are taking their seats while KJ thanks the audience, panelists and the Action Alliance.KJ introduces Greg Rosen (GR) from the Rendon Group (www.Rendon.com) and his representation of the President's Council on Year 2000 Conversion (www.y2k.gov) and the "Y2K Community Conversation" National Campaign.
http://www.slonet.org/~y2k/Ca_1st_Y2K_CC/Entire_Webumentary.html
-- (even@more.clues), November 13, 1999.
During a December closed-door meeting held by the council at Federal Reserve Board headquarters, attendees bemoaned negative media coverage and suggested staging "community cooperation" events to calm jitters and spur positive press coverage, a participant said.Jack Gribben, a spokesman for the council, stressed that no decisions have been made. "Both communications and the issue of communicating with customers and constituents were discussed."
He said that "we have had discussions" with at least one public- relations company, but "there's nothing firm at this point."
For PG&E:Q. Will Diablo Canyon be y2k compliant or taken off line?
I love this...we have two definitions of Ready;
Y2K Ready
Y2K Ready FULLY
A. We're Y2K Ready. Filed the July 1 deadline with all mission critical systems. Except 1... a "Main Annunciator" has been purchased, just not installed yet. When we do it by 10/31/1999, we'll be Y2K Ready fully
It would be laughable if we weren't talking Diablo Nuclear. I heard they made the deadline and are Really y2k Ready FULLY Now.
-- fullymybutt (karlacalif@aol.com), November 14, 1999.
FYI -- Thanks for the Post - you just gotta shake your head at verbiage like this:For PG&E:
Q. Will Diablo Canyon be y2k compliant or taken off line?
I love this...we have two definitions of Ready;
Y2K Ready
Y2K Ready FULLY
A. We're Y2K Ready. Filed the July 1 deadline with all mission critical systems. Except 1... a "Main Annunciator" has been purchased, just not installed yet. When we do it by 10/31/1999, we'll be Y2K Ready fully
It would be laughable if we weren't talking Diablo Nuclear. I heard they made the deadline and are Really y2k Ready FULLY Now.
-- fullymybutt (karlacalif@aol.com), November 14, 1999.
FYI -- Thanks for the Post - you just gotta shake your head at verbiage like this:For PG&E:
Q. Will Diablo Canyon be y2k compliant or taken off line?
I love this...we have two definitions of Ready;
Y2K Ready
Y2K Ready FULLY
A. We're Y2K Ready. Filed the July 1 deadline with all mission critical systems. Except 1... a "Main Annunciator" has been purchased, just not installed yet. When we do it by 10/31/1999, we'll be Y2K Ready fully
It would be laughable if we weren't talking Diablo Nuclear. I heard they made the deadline and are Really y2k Ready FULLY Now.
-- fullymybutt (karlacalif@aol.com), November 14, 1999.
oooooppppsss!!! Damn I'm sorry, seems as though my stop button does not stop. I think I better go to bed now, I know its time when I repeat myself over and over and over.Night all
-- takingmybutttobed (karlacalif@aol.com), November 14, 1999.
soybean.com chat room log August 3, 1999
Cassandra Project - Community Conversation Feedback
How did Koskinen hear about the Navy Document I told him.
[sedonay2k] Y2K BEHIND THE SCENES How Koskinen heard about the Navy Re
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From http://www.cassandraproject.org/feedback.htm :
THE PRESIDENT:
"I'm pleased to join you today as you discuss the steps your communities are taking to address the Year 2000 computer problem. The Y2K problem reminds us how deeply embedded computers are in our lives. It is not a challenge susceptible to single government program, or an easy fix. It's as complicated as the billions of microchips that run everything from farm equipment to VCR's. Just as computers connect us all, so does the Y2K challenge, demanding that every government agency, corporation, university and hospital work together to seek solutions. At the national level we've been working tirelessly to ensure that critical systems are ready for the year 2000. And work on the rest will be completed well before January 1st. Our Council on the Year 2000 Conversion is also working closely with key industries as they prepare their systems for the next century.
Still, to meet the challenges of Y2K at the local level, there must be cooperation and communication among small businesses, government and the local communities they serve. That's why our administration launched a National Campaign for the Year 2000 Solutions last July, encouraging industry and government to share ideas. As part of the campaign, these Y2K Community Conversations help us all to move step by step toward creative, concrete solutions. This town hall meeting demonstrates that we can and we must continue to work together, promoting partnership so that the Y2K problem is the last headache of the 20th century, not the first crisis of the 21st century. Thanks again for attending today's meeting, and for all of your hard work."
End of transcript..
After viewing the materials provided and meeting with the Bakersfield Y2K Task Force's Steering Committee, we decided more information was needed before we made any final decision on the recommended meetings. Therefore, I contacted the Rendon Group (http://www.rendon.com/) They are subcontracted by the Y2K President's Council and speak on their behalf. I spoke at length with 2 different representatives of the Rendon Group asking numerous detailed questions(for which it was not always easy to get clear answers). My goal was to get precise answers concerning details such as: Who controls the meetings, who covers the expenses incurred while organizing and hosting the meeting, and who get what speakers to speak on what topics?
Here are a couple of specific questions we had and the type of responses we received.
Q: Why do they want to hold the meetings:
A: Generally to better inform the public about Y2K. Specifically to assure the public the Federal Government is 93% Complaint on their mission critical systems, but to express the government's concern that not all city/county communities nor non-US countries are as complaint.
Q: What is the financial responsibility for each Y2K Task Force that hosts a meeting?
A: The President's Council will do its best to insure that each local Task Force incurs no expense. We have a number of representatives throughout the USA whose job it is to organize a successful meeting; meeting place (no cost to task force), contact media sources to promote the event in the community, and contact key note speakers if the task forces are unable.
I think one of the main concerns the Bakersfield Y2K task force has is that there is already a great deal of mis-information concerning compliancy and problem severity floating around out there. Mightn't government - hired officials invited to speak at these events also negate the vital issues at hand by "playing down" their severity? Telling people everything is ok?
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From http://www.cisp.org/imp/may_99/05_99rendon-insight.htm :
Center for Information Strategy and Policy (CISP) is part of SAIC. Spell "SAIC" backwards. Toss in an apostrophe. Find out who populates the upper ranks of SAIC. Goooolllly. Shazayum.
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From http://www.google.com/search? q=cache:742215&dq=cache:www.bc.edu/bc_org/svp/stvp/stucal/ :
A&S CAREER SERIES - PUBLIC RELATIONS
Career Center, 3rd Floor, 6:30 pm - 7:30 pm
Amy Lynch, a 1996 graduate with an English degree will speak about her job in Public Relations at the Rendon Group.
Doug Copeland, University Career Center, 552-3430
(Google has a very nice feature: it maintains cached copies of what it finds. Very useful for situations where the original is MIA or edited.)
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The Information Revolution and National Security: Dimensions and Directions
Stuart J.D. Schwartzstein, editor
Foreword by Adm. William A. Owens
Contributors: C. Kenneth Allard, John Arquilla, Jeffrey R. Cooper, James Der Derian, James B. Ferguson, Daniel Gouri, Ahmed S. Hashim, Alfred A. Jones, Brian Kahin, Michael R. Nelson, Admiral William A. Owens, George E. Pickett Jr., John W. Rendon Jr., David Ronfeldt, Larry Seaquist, Martin Shubik, Michael Vlahos, R. James Woolsey and Henrikas YushkiavitshusInformation and communications technologies are having a profound impact in a number of ways, domestically and globally, including how national security is maintained and how war is waged. There are also implications for civil liberties and how we, as a society, deal with new kinds of conflict. The issues that are raised are both far-ranging and complex.
Significant Issues Series 296 pp. 1996
ISBN 0-89206-288-6 $25.00
-- Ron Schwarz (rs@clubvb.com.delete.this), November 14, 1999.