Investor Panic Destroying SuperPower Status : LUSENET : TimeBomb 2000 (Y2000) : One Thread

I'm now for the idea of trading being halted.

-- Paula (, November 08, 1999


One might just as accurately write: "Investor Enthusiasm Destroying SuperPower Status." It's starry-eyed speculation on internet stocks that is inflating the bubble.

This is the de-industrialization that Pat Buchanan is talking about.

If you want to know the future of America, listen to Patrick Buchanan. In the post-financial-crash, post-Y2k world, his "isolationism" (simply put: the well being of America first, other nations second) will be an obvious choice. In hard times, we always remember who we are and come back to our roots as a nation. It's hard to believe now (when we are still intoxicated with prosperity) but Patrick Buchanan will win the Presidency.

Do not believe the accusations about him. He is NOT "anti-semetic" - that is a libel leveled against all who speak out against the billions of American dollars that flow to the State of Israel. Pat is NOT a "racist" - this is typical liberal race-baiting (a tactic that debases the stuggle of minorities by using it to advance a socialist agenda). Even democrats realize that allowing an invasion of illegal aliens threatens to create (as I believe demo Pat Moynihan put it, a "Chicano Quebec in California"). Buchanan wants to defend the integrity of America's borders. And for that he has been called a "racist" and a "nazi."

Don't believe the lies about Y2k or about Pat Buchanan. Both lies are meant to do the same thing: to keep us from being independent and self-sufficient, to break us so we'll be easier to manage when the next manufactured "crisis" occurs. Become self-sufficient for Y2k, and what is more, help to restore self-sufficiency as a cultural value in America. If you want a strong, self-sufficient America in the 21st Century, vote for Pat Buchanan.

-- Dr. Polymorph (, November 08, 1999.

I agree with much of what Mr. Buchanan stands for but this is not the proper place to promote a particular politician's campaign. You'll only irritate people.

-- cody (, November 08, 1999.

Pat makes politicians and corporate heads (the same folks doing back flips to avoid/evade being up front y2k instead of hiding behind attorney-generated boilerplate) nervous because he tells it like it is......

-- Charles R. (, November 08, 1999.

I was reading through Robert Waldrop's on-line book (excellent, BTW), and he raised the suspicion that big Agro is opposed to 'hoarding' because of their fear that consumers will recreate direct links to food growers, bypassing the middlemen. Thus, they discourage people from becoming self-sufficient, because it would hurt their profits. Corporations in general don't want people thinking about becoming self-sufficient, because we would begin rejecting the materialism they profer as hollow. A move toward frugality would hurt glitzy retailers, who sell junk, and hurt the media, that live off of advertising revenues from the retailers. There is a ponderous inertial framework in place to keep people needful, shortsighted and selfish. Hmmm.

-- Spidey (in@jam.jam), November 08, 1999.

Right on, Spidey!

Buchanan is a demigod. His ideas about corporatism and the liberal adjenda are correct. However he is using the defenseless of the world, the victims of American greed and consumerism.

It is big California fruit and vegetable growers who bring in and benefit from Mexican workers. It is American consumers who need fresh vegetables year round for next to nothing who promulgate the system.

Mexican illegals are for the most part beautiful people trying to make a buck in a corporate-dominated world that has undermined their own economies with imports from other countries.

We are all on the bottom of the corporate food chain.


-- Peter Starr (, November 08, 1999.

Fine, Peter, but would you deny the Mexican migrant workers an opportunity to improve their lot in life (rather than going on welfare in the U.S.) doing a job that most Americans would turn their noses up at? And for that matter, would you be willing to pay $5 for a head of lettuce?

One of the things that makes America great is its ability to accept outsiders who are willing to work. An isolationist/protectionist policy will not work. If you want proof, look at the Japanese.


-- Midas (, November 09, 1999.

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