I'm planning to walk away from my job, my life, at the end of November. To basically let the TSHTF as far as my debts etc go. It may sound irresponsible, but I don't want to be caught with my pants around my ankles when society as we know it starts to crumble. What is YOUR opinion?????

Bug-eyed

(and pollies, don't bother responding, cause your opinion doesn't count)

-- bug eyed (not@my.place), November 03, 1999

Answers

--cutting it close, but should be cool. we split last may, for what's that worth, from insane atlanta (boy, an i glad now, too...). the deal is, don't run from y2k- run TOWARDS a better, safer, saner life. You can ALWAYS find a job, and so WHAT if you have to make less money? It ain't important, not in the long run, and anyone who thinks it is, well, i feel sorry for you.........

-- zog (zzoggy@yahoo.com), November 03, 1999.

Sounds like you've already bugged out.

And,

Look down. Seems like your pants are around your ankles, too.

You might pull em back up and see if you can create better choices.

Critt

-- Critt Jarvis (critt@critt.com), November 03, 1999.

December 15th, if you're really serious...

-- Dennis (djolson@pressenter.com), November 03, 1999.

By the way, I have a place to go to. I just don't wan't to be in the big city, or stuck in some god forsaken martial law camp.....thanks for the input!!

Bug-eyed

-- bug-eyed (not@my.house), November 03, 1999.

As a poster from this forum's classic era once observed:

"There are only two possible times to bugout:
too early, and too late."

-- Count Vronsky (vronsky@anna.lit), November 03, 1999.

Sounds like it's going to be TEOTWAWKI for you regardless of whether or not it is for the rest of us. You didn't give any indication that you know where you're going.

You can't get there from here if you're nowhere at all (Firesign Theater, I think)

Mikey2k

-- Mikey2k (mikey2k@he.wont.eat.it), November 03, 1999.

Better too early then.

Bug-eyed

-- bug eyed (not@my.place), November 03, 1999.

I am just getting into the IT profession, (in "insane-atlanta" no less). The way I see it is that they are going to need people with technical knowledge real soon all over the world, especially in the field of communications.

The code might not be able to be fixed, but it IS possible to re- program computers (to re-code them). Just because you have some bad apps or whatever doesn't mean you have a bad system necessarily. I mean how stupid would it be if every time your computer froze up you had to buy a new computer? That's the one redeeming quality about them. Unlike humans, they are capable of unlearning just as fast as they are at learning. So... while some of you bug out for the hills to live like nomads, I'll be in the trenches doing the work.

Don't worry, I'll save a cup of coffee and a terminal for you when you get back.

-- George K. (just@another.anon), November 03, 1999.

Uh George, you'll be digging trenches. Take care my friend.

Bug-eye

-- buggy (not@my.house), November 03, 1999.

Yes, but I'll be digging trenches with the very latest in shovel technology.

-- George K. (just@another.anon), November 03, 1999.

When we are talking out of the cities, how far out? New location of what size. How big is to big when TSHTF?

-- MIS (KarlaCALIF@aol.com), November 03, 1999.

Depends on where you're going and your finances...if you have enough for now, then go, if you know where you're going.

-- Mara (MaraWayne@aol.com), November 03, 1999.

George,

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What? I admire your wide-eyed newbie optimism, but no matter what kind of "shovel" you think you have, shit is still shit. If all the best and brightest couldn't fix it in 1, 2, 5 or even 10 years, what makes you think you can when it all starts to crumble? Good luck pal, you're gonna need it.

-- cavscout (too late to cr@m for. the exam), November 04, 1999.

George, are the "computers with redeeming values that are good at learning" located at your educational institution? The world is waiting for them things!

-- remember (oboy@again.com), November 04, 1999.

October 17 was the last official bug-out day. Sorry, you're too late.

-- Spidey (in@jam.shills), November 04, 1999.

I'm not saying I , or anyone else can "fix" the problems, necessarily. My point is that technology will still be around for many, many years. That and the fact that SOMEONE will have to be around to work with it. I may be optimistic about the future, sure. But why not? That little crack about the shovel was sort of along those lines. You can dig ditches with that old broken handled spade that is rusted and worthless, or you can be the guy sitting on the backhoe. No one decision is better than the other, because we all live different lives. I am making a decision to live a technical life, and to "to the other thing" as J.F. Kennedy would say.

I hope we all have good luck no matter what we decide to do.

-- George K. (just@another.anon), November 04, 1999.

I basically bugged out in July '98. Payed off all my debits and began preparing. Don't know if I've prepared enuff, but hey, better than nothing at all. My family thinks I'm burned out from my previous job. I tried to give them a heads up about y2k, but as many here have said, they are DGI's.

I had expected disruptions in our global infastructure, but, with the latest info on oil, I now know it's going to be much worse. I'm just glad I've got my 30 acre Nirvana to give me peace of mind.

The Hermit in the Holler

-- Few (fewbaby@infoave.net), November 04, 1999.

By now, you should have bugged out. Luckily, there's still time, but there's no sense in waiting until the end of November. With all that's happening now, you shouldn't wait any longer, get out NOW while you still can.

As for where to go, any population center will be dangerous, so the more secluded and remote your destination, the better. Be prepared to be there for a long time, possibly forever, since there's no guarantee that you will be alive to see the rebuilding of society (if there is any).

-- (its@coming.soon), November 04, 1999.

I "bugged out" so to speak but not in a huge way. I simply moved from one part of town (where I watched the police make a crack cocaine bust from my front window) to another locale on the outskirts (a large, corporate-owned complex of small townhouses populated by young proffesionals and single-parent families). It costs a bit more, and I am certainly feeling the pinch financially, but I do feel much safer.

Since our city has about 50,000 and is extremely well off economically (diverse economy, university town, county seat, commerce center), I don't anticipate that bugging out is the best solution (though I have prepared a bugout bag in case we have to become refugees).

-- coprolith (coprolith@rocketship.com), November 04, 1999.

Yes, it DOES sound irresponsible. How would you like it if your boss decides to bug out before you do and lets TSHTF as far as your last month's paycheck goes?

Sorry, I think you should make every effort to pay your bills. Wouldn't it be ironic if the only things left working were the people you owe money to and their debt-collection services?

-- Old Git (anon@spamproblems.com), November 04, 1999.

I have an opinion on this matter that is similiar to Dennis's; 12/15 will likely not be too late, but earlier would definitely be preferable.

Incidentally, there are a couple of pieces on my website with information relevant to this issue. 1) Try the "Serious Voluntary Relocation" article (towards the bottom of the home page, and 2) look toward the end of the article "Necessary Action Summary" (link is toward top left of grid box) for a couple of points I came up with.

my website: www.y2ksafeminnesota.com

-- MinnesotaSmith (y2ksafeminnesota@hotmail.com), November 04, 1999.