Imagine that, I'm a "junkie and a punk". cpr seeks libel suit?

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I was scanning the threads, as I do every day, and came across the "Cory Hill Revealed" thread. I followed the link and saw this follow-up thread from cpr. As many of you know, cpr has invaded the local Y2k forum where I am the most active contributor.

Do I simply ignore Mr. Reuben (as I'm inclined to do), or do I slap him with a libel suit? Why he has decided to single me out is a mystery to me (I'm a very moderate voice on a forum that attracts few participants), but he has crossed the legal line, IMHO. I have no desire for a lawsuit, but this nonsense has to end. Advice?

-- Steve (hartsman@ticon.net), November 03, 1999

Answers

Well, let's see. First thing you want to do is have everybody on the forum chant "don't feed the trolls!" while they concurrently hand him T-Bone scraps under the table.

Wait for the trollery to become insufferable; start an inter- forumnular war. This takes about a year to fully develop. Hack each other's sites at least once a month. Rage on endlessly about censorship; pick out a few participants to denigrate and ridicule.

Make lame attempts at truces and peace until the rollover finally arrives.

-- hmm.. think (we@can.help_here), November 03, 1999.


How did he libel you? By "junkie" it appears he meant Y2K-forum junkie. And what case do you have against "punk" ???

-- hey (not@lawyer.but), November 03, 1999.

cpr accuses me of "plan ting extremist propaganda".

The volume is being turned up. I'll deal with it, and we'll all discover the great unknown future together. I could certainly do without the rants.

Oh, well. For me, Y2k has always been about facts and issues, not emotion and rhetoric. I can handle just about anything cpr or anyone else throws at me.

I do have an attorney on retainer, however, and take defamation of character very seriously. So should he.

-- Steve (hartsman@ticon.net), November 03, 1999.


Everyone concerned needs to take a deep breath and let it out slowly.

And then repeat again and again, until they have become calm.

LISTEN carefully. There isn't enough time to convince anyone to begin to rethink their positions or even a willingness to do so. After reading CPR's post, I am convinced that he truly believes that he is right. His emotion level is extremely high against others with whom he disagrees. I believe if he had personally experienced the lies and corruption involved in some claims of readiness, he would feel differently about the subject. Maybe if someone who feels comfortable sharing a first hand experience of this type with him, it would be to his benefit. I'm not suggesting that it is likely, that someone would want to put himself in such jeopardy, because I fully understand the ramifications of divulging proprietary information.

However, the lies are numerous, they are out there, the claims of readiness in some quarters are patently false, but how else do you convince someone of this without first hand knowledge.

BOTTOMLINE: The time is growing short before the signs of serious problems will be obvious. It may be best to wait and let be, what will be.

-- snooze button (alarmclock_2000@yahoo.com), November 03, 1999.


Looks as if Doc Paulie's libeled Cory Hamasaki too.

http://stand77.com/wwwboard/messages/3277.html

Maybe the two of you (and probably others who have been libeled on that site) can get together and sue both of them as owner and agent of Debunking Y2K.

If you decide to go ahead, post on this forum and I'll be glad to contact you and help you go through the posts for evidence.

-- Sick (of@their.sickness), November 03, 1999.



Steve, when piss-ants like CPR, Doc Paulie et al slander you, you should be proud and consider it a badge of honor to wear. It means that they consider you to be especially dangerous because they have nothing else that they can throw at you.

And anyone making their decisions regarding Y2K and whether to prepare can see that. Which is the IMPORTANT issue, right?

Keep up the good work.

-- King of Spain (madrid@aol.cum), November 03, 1999.

The solution?

Just ignore him.

He needs the attention for his ego.He feeds on attention. If the whole crew just ignores him he will starve and go away.

-- Rickjohn (rickjohn1@yahoo.com), November 03, 1999.


Steve,

You can't win. The more information you post, and the greater its veracity and applicability, the more hysterical will be the pollys' efforts to destroy you.

Like my buddy says, "when the green flag drops, the bullsh*t stops..."

Well, we've got 58 days until the green flag. Have a beer. Screw ALL polly trolls, IMO. *IF* bad things happen, they'll be long dead before you could say even a SINGLE "I told you so". And if nothing happens, screw 'em anyway. Have a beer. Love your family. Live your life.

That's the best revenge anyway, REGARDLESS of Y2K.

Have a happy, dude!

-- Dennis (djolson@cherco.net), November 03, 1999.


Some possibly relevant quotes by Richard Bach et al.:
"Live never to be ashamed if anything you do or say is published around the world -- even if what is published is not true." - Richard Bach (Illusions)

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." -Albert Einstein

"Your only obligation in any lifetime is to be true to yourself." - Richard Bach (Illusions)

"Even a stopped clock is right twice a day." -Marie Ebner-Eschenbach

"The mark of your ignorance is the depth of your belief in injustice and tragedy. What the caterpillar calls the end of the world, the Master calls a butterfly." - Richard Bach (Illusions) "There are no mistakes. The events we bring upon ourselves, no matter how unpleasant, are necessary in order to learn what we need to learn; whatever steps we take, they're necessary to reach the places we've chosen to go." - Richard Bach (Illusions)

"Find what you most want to do; do it, no matter what; and in the doing be guaranteed a very difficult and a very happy lifetime." - Richard Bach (Illusions)

My recommendation would be to ignore the noise and focus on the goal. Good luck.

-- Arnie Rimmer (Arnie_Rimmer@usa.net), November 03, 1999.

Steve,

It's NOT "what's important."

Refocus, my friend.

Diane

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), November 03, 1999.



Steve,

My advice (FWIW): Ignore him. He's not worth the effort -- and besides, would you really want to be responsible for being the one who finally sends him completely over the edge in one final fit of apoplexy? (It's bad enough to have to clean spittle off the inside of the monitor screen whenever he posts something.)

IMNSHOMan (AA, BA, MA, MS, Ph.D, Ph.D Squared, MD, DS, DDS, LS/MFT [that one's for Chuck], ABCD Puppies? / LMNO Puppies! / OSAR Puppies! / CMPN? , FX, FedEx, UPS, USPS, Your Mileage May Vary, High School Grad-U-Ate, BFD)

-- I'm Here, I'm There (I'm Everywhere@so.beware), November 04, 1999.


Thanks one and all, as always. I will stay the course, ignore him and others, and continue to try to pursue the ever-elusive enigmatic truth of Y2k.

Arnie: Give my regards to Mrs. Rimmer. Hope you are both well in Corn Country.

-- Steve (hartsman@ticon.net), November 04, 1999.


Wait three months.

-- PD (PaulDMaher@att.worldnet.com), November 04, 1999.

If you don't want to be bothered by him, I have a few sure fire ways to keep him from "getting" to you.

First of all, recognize that greedy little men with black hearts ALWAYS yell and spit at others. A sure fire way to determine a person's "true" christian beliefs is to watch the way he/she reacts to opposing views. I can only thin of ONE time in the Bible that Jesus MIGHT have yelled. That was in the temple in RIGHTEOUS anger toward the money-changers.

Anyhow, here's my suggestions:

1) Do NOT read anything he posts. Poison is poison. Stay away from it.

2) Do NOT respond to anything he posts. Make him a "non-entity".

3) Post a message to that effect in the re: line to that effect so others reading there will understand.

4) When the little troll REALLY gets into a rant, AUTORESPOND with the above post.

5) :):) quote a little scripture. (Darkness runs from the light).

Just my humble opinions. the e-mail addy is real.

-- DavePrime (the_tv_guy@hotmail.com), November 04, 1999.


Gosh Steve, do you honestly believe anyone with half a brain takes CPR seriously? Pa-lease. The guy is a Marine Corps product of the "soap in a sock" treatment, inflicted one time too many. He walks around with deGager's tally-wacker stuck in his armpit, ranting, like the looney-tune he is and suffers from an orifice fixation involving sheep.

I don't even know you, but the thought of CPR disliking you only makes me want to ask you out for dinner and a movie.

-- Will continue (farming@home.com), November 04, 1999.



Will continue: I'm truly flattered. Can I bring the wife and tater tots? We haven't seen a "real" (non-Disney) movie in ages. I can't wait for "Toy Story II". The merchandising has already started in earnest. I think we've personally financed Mr. Eisner's yearly bonus (I took my son to see "Tarzan" 6 times).

I'll buy the popcorn.

-- Steve (hartsman@ticon.net), November 04, 1999.


Sorry Steve. Sounds way too familiar to me. If I'm gonna do anything behind MY hubby's back, it'll have to be more exciting than THAT. I do THAT all the time. No wonder CPR hates you. You're boring. The LAST thing *I* need is MORE stomachs around here. Good Lord.

And good luck!!!!!!!

:)

-- Will continue (farming@home.com), November 04, 1999.


Response to Imagine that, I'm a "junkie and a punk". cpr seeks libel suit?

To win a libel case you have to prove economic harm was done to you.

-- Spidey (in@jam.docket), November 04, 1999.

ISn't this the funniest thing you've ever read? LOL!

Willcontinuetobeignorantashell says:

Gosh Steve, do you honestly believe anyone with half a brain takes CPR seriously? Pa-lease. The guy is a Marine Corps product of the "soap in a sock" treatment, inflicted one time too many. He walks around with deGager's tally-wacker stuck in his armpit, ranting, like the looney-tune he is and suffers from an orifice fixation involving sheep.

I don't even know you, but the thought of CPR disliking you only makes me want to ask you out for dinner and a movie.

-- Will continue (farming@home.com), November 04, 1999.

NOW....one might expect MISTER Hartsman to respond, not at all to the above ravings....considering he is the one who started this thread. INSTEAD we read this:

Will continue: I'm truly flattered. Can I bring the wife and tater tots? We haven't seen a "real" (non-Disney) movie in ages. I can't wait for "Toy Story II". The merchandising has already started in earnest. I think we've personally financed Mr. Eisner's yearly bonus (I took my son to see "Tarzan" 6 times).

I'll buy the popcorn.

WOW. A high-five for the libelous speech against another person, from a guy who complains about being libeled!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!! God you people are in SERIOUS need of psychiatric help!

But you are funny as hell to listen too! I think I'll keep a copy of this thread for humor's sake.....or maybe incase MISTER Hartsman does move with a lawsuit. His statements here should elicit a few "snickers" from the court!

-- IRONy MAN (marvel@comic.book), November 04, 1999.


Obviously, two bars of soap were placed in the sock used on mister irony.

I just get such a kick out of CPR's rants. Hey.......don't look now, but, I think you have some wool stuck in your fly.

-- Will continue (farming@home.com), November 04, 1999.


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