"The 10 IRS service centers combined could produce up to
10,000 manual refunds daily and would be issued to taxpayers
most in need."

IRS Acknowledges Problems

-- spider (spider0@usa.net), October 30, 1999

Answers

Hmmmm....10,000 per day.....that's 50K a week....20 weeks for 1,000,000....how many refunds are sent out? Maybe 20 mil, give or take....so I can expect a refund in 2006 or so?

Kook

-- Y2Kook (y2kook@usa.net), October 30, 1999.

no, they'll cite some limit on terms by then ...

-- weasels (snakes@fox.piranhas), October 30, 1999.

If this turns out to be true, then expect more bombings. A lot of people are going to be pissed off. This isn't just doom and gloom talk. When you deal with people's money, namely refunds, you're hitting a nerve. They better be wrong and get those refunds out or there will be death and destruction.

-- Larry (cobol.programmer@usa.net), October 30, 1999.

my refund hasn't ever been enough to stimulate any nerves :-(

-- piddly check (leeches@bloodsuckers.ticks), October 30, 1999.

The orthopedic surgeons around the country will be thrilled. I can see it now--1,000 IRS employees all having carpal tunnel syndrome at the same time!

-- Ann M. (hismckids@aol.com), October 30, 1999.

Can see it now -- those 'warming centers' will become 'work camps' for IRS 'manual' prisoners

-- concentration (camping@home.hellno), October 30, 1999.

The people with incomes below $10,000 should get their refunds within a year or two.

But if there are 20 million people expecting refunds as Kook says, this means that at the rate they say they can do them, it will take 12 years to get them all done.

Those people who are in the higher levels and still eligible for a refund ($30,000-$40,000?) will be lucky if they get their refund by 2012, and the interest they could have earned on the refund would probably be worth more than the initial refund amount.

(*V*)

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), October 30, 1999.

From the article:

In a letter sent earlier this month to House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Bill Archer, the IRS said its records of equipment and software at its offices around the country posed a high risk to its Y2K preparation efforts.

Does anybody know where the original text of this letter can be found on the web? After seeing how cleverly the Washington Post "covered" the Senate 100-Day report, I am curious to see if the media at large may be cleaning up their act.

-- Zach Anderson (z@figure.8m.com), October 30, 1999.

Zach,

htt p://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/19991030/tc/yk_taxes_3.html

(*V*)

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), October 30, 1999.

Thanks, Hawk. But I'm looking for the text of the actual letter sent by the IRS to Bill Archer. Apparently it is publically available, because I saw it discussed in a chatroom as such, but I neglected to ask.

-- Zach Anderson (z@figure.8m.com), October 30, 1999.

Just for the record.

Statute of Limitations as applies to the IRS. Three years for a refund dated from the last day of the year in question.....NOT from April 15

Statute of Limitations as applies to IRS. SEVEN years as applies to investigation of potential tax fraud or avoidance.

Found this out the hard way. IRS LOST my returns for 1993. They asked for a copy. I sent it. They immediately disallowed about 50% of the deductions. When I asked to review the 1994 and 1995 returns.....sorry, term of statutes has run out. This occurred July 1999.

It's ironic that the very agency that accuses thousands of people of 'manipulating' the system uses the system to manipulate the thousands of people.

I will make one very solid suggestion. STOP YOUR WITHHOLDING BETWEEN NOW AND DEC 31. You can do this by changing your W-4. It is perfectly legal and you can return to normal in January 2000 if appropriate.

-- Lobo (atthelair@yahoo.com), October 31, 1999.

What are you going to do with a piece of toilet paper called a refund checque?

The USPS will be hosed - so you won't get it for a start.

If you do get it the banks will be on an extended holiday.

You all should have been claiming a ten for the last year so that you owe the IRS some piece of toilet paper...

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), October 31, 1999.