Young - Has anybody tried Colliodial Silver? Does it work?

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A friend told me today that I must buy some Colliodial Silver. He says that it was used as an antibiotic before Pennicillin was discovered. Any truth to this?

From my research on the web, I've seen these claims debunked.

Has anybody tried it? Has it worked? Please describe your experience. It sounds hokey, but I am keeping an open mind.

-- Steve Young (syoung@exapps.com), October 27, 1999

Answers

If you research the web long enough, you can debunk anything!! I built a colloidal silver generator, and haven't been sick yet! It must work, huh?

-- Jay Urban (Jayho99@aol.com), October 27, 1999.

I wouldn't go there...

Too much silver in your system will turn your skin blue/gray. Silver does kill micro-organisms, thus water filtration units will sometimes use silver to keep bacteria from collecting when the filter is not in use. I don't think drinking the stuff (colliodial silver) is a good idea though.

Sadly, this stuff is being sold like crazy on all of the non- conventional "news" sources. Somebody is getting rich! As for its use prior to penicillan, as I recall, they also used leeches...

Now, let me go find some flame-proofing. I'm gonna need it!

-- Anonymous999 (Anonymous999@Anonymous999.xxx), October 27, 1999.


There are several threads about CS on the Preps forum where the subject has been *exhaustively* addressed. Search on "silver" in the current threads and in the Health - Alternative Medicine archive (at the bottom of the current threads).

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a.tcl?topic=TimeBomb%202000%20%2 8Y2000%29%20Preparation%20Forum

-- Old Git (anon@spamproblems.com), October 27, 1999.


Yes, they used leaches, and if your problem had to do with blood clots, they worked. Colloidial silver works, and I use it on my animals for skin, gut, and respiratory problems and it works as good or better than the expensive vet stuff. As far as side effects go, I think colloidial silver is safe, silver compounds maby, but not as safe as pure silver. If it comes to it, and I need an anthrax cure in a hurry, I plan on inhaling it in a mist, and spraying it on everything and everybody around. Got any better ideas????

-- Zeda (rickster@n-jcenter.com), October 27, 1999.

Yes Colloidal silver works and no your skin won't turn silver/gray!!

This is the common and only piece of disinformation that the debunkers can cling to re:Colloidal Silver

Argyria(blue-gray staining of the skin)results from ingesting Silver Proteins or Silver Salts i.e. Silver Nitrate,Silver Sulfate which are in extremely high concentrations

-- axa (Hi Ho@Silver.man), October 27, 1999.



For less than $30 you can build your own silver colloid generator with batteries and wire you can buy from Radio Shop. Comes out to less than 1/10 of a cent per glass.

-- thinkIcan (thinkIcan@make.it), October 27, 1999.

Hi Zeda,

I'm delighted to see someone else use CS for problems with their animals. Ever try it on plants (not kidding)?

-- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moines (dtmiller@midiowa.net), October 27, 1999.


Keep in mind that colloidal silver taxes the liver and is NOT to be used as a medical prophylactic. Use as needed for a short period of time, then lay off the stuff.

I don't know that I would inhale it, but I do not believe it is in any way fatal so if you are combating something serious, it would most definitely be the lesser of the evils.

Other choices? Yeah, there are quite a few. Email me and I will send you my suggestions for you to research on your own.

-- OR (orwelliator@biosys.net), October 27, 1999.


Connect 3 ea 9 volt batteries together in series (positive to negative, etc) to form a 27 volt source. Use distilled water only. Buy a few 1 ounce 999 silver bars or even American Eagles will do (1 ounce, .999 pure) and dangle them in the water (but not the clips themselves about 1 to 1 1/2 inches apart. Use Ball or other glass canning jar with 1 quart capacity.

I find that this rig is crude but effective. It will generate a fluffy fuz on one of the electrodes and I switch the polarity every hour or so to equalize the amount of silver which is pulled off of each electrode.

After about 4 hours I disconnect and remove the silver bars, thoroughly shake up the solution and then let it settle out (larger particales will settle to the bottom, then pour off the clear liquid into other Mason/Ball jars. The solutions look slightly amber in color.

I use 1 ounce of this per day in 6 ounces of water. It tastes metalic. I never use it more than 7 days in a row or more than that in a 30 day period, figuring that my body will flush it out over that time. Have used this to clear up lingering mold infestations in my lungs (farmer's lung from inhaling mold dust from hay) and for tintinus infection on my feet (not as effective).

Just my experience.

I find it interesting that silver is associated with redemption/salvation in a symbolic sense. Possibly the ancients knew something we don't know.

Silver is used in skin cream as a medicinal salve for bed sores and burns. Also it has occured to me that wealthy people had silver to use as eating utensils and were dosing on this with every mouthful. Also silver or copper coins were used in the water barrels as purifying agents as recently as the 1800's.

It is a metal and metals can harm you. So can anythng though. Any mediaction can kill you if you use it wrongly. I would never use this stuff over a long period of time as I would be concerned that it would accumulate in the tissues.

-- ..- (dit@dot.dash), October 27, 1999.


If you have a colloidal silver screw in your navel, don't unscrew it--yer ass will fall off

-- (longjohn@silver.bullet), October 27, 1999.


Yes it works.Make it yourself. Also wild oregono is an effective antibiotic. Also, make or buy a "zapper" as described by Hulda Clark in her various books.

-- Harvey Wilson (harv@hotmail.com), October 27, 1999.

If people tell you that properly prepared colloidal silver is harmful, have them show you their evidence before drawing any conclusions. I've never seen any hard evidence to support this assertion.

I've been ingesting between 2.5 - 5 mg CS per day for several years with no ill effects and haven't been sick more than once or twice which never lasted more than a day or two.

The only downside is that those damn airport metal detectors won't let me pass through so I've had to seek alternate transportation. Hey, a small price to pay.

-- Dr. Roger Altman (rogaltman@aol.com), October 27, 1999.


Just couldn't stop myself...

Wasn't Hulda Clark (the Zapper lady) just arrested for fraud and for practicing medicine without a license?

-- Sam Mcgee (weissacre@gwtc.net), October 28, 1999.


Airport metal detectors? You're starting to worry me Roger.

When last asked by Dr. Altman to doccument organ damage from silver ingestion I couldn't do it. Still can't. Docs I asked (old guys) said; First, it was never widely used and data (autopsies?) would be sketchy. Second, who cares? With the advent of Flemming's '29 discovery of penicillin using metals to kill bacteria internally is silly.

-- Carlos (riffraff1@cybertime.net), October 28, 1999.


DO NOT BUY COLLOIDAL SILVER! Make your own for pennies!

Check out www.silversolutions.com A unit costs only $79 and it lasts a lifetime.

Never again see a doctor for any antibiotics!

Save thousands of dollars during your lifetime!

-- freddie (freddie@thefreeloader.com), October 28, 1999.



Sam...yes Dr. Clark was incarcerated for a short period of time. Fraud? Misrepresentation? Yeah right. We have the medical mafia cartel to thank for that.

You know, if you do ANY amount of research, you would know that hundreds of brilliant physicians have been villified and ruined because they dared to go against 'the system'.

Give us all a break, Sam. Oh and why you are at it, why don't you check into Dr. Lorraine Day who, after a prestigious 20+ year career as head of the orthopedic department of a major Bay Area, CA hospital, came down with cancer, almost died and then wound up curing herself without the help of allopathic radiation and chemotherapy. Upon embarking on a mission to spread the word, she has been harrassed and threatened by the medical establishment to shut up. She is only one of many dozens of medical doctors dissillusioned by this cartel and their cut, burn and medicate policies that do not promote health and wellbeing and never ever address the cause of disease, but only the effect.

-- OR (orwelliator@biosys.net), October 28, 1999.


'Medical Mafia Cartel'?

Your response is exactly why people, such as myself, are dubious of any "product" that claims to be a cure-all. There are pros and cons to everything--except, apparently, anything to do with alternative medicine. From what I've read on this and other forums and from innumerable websites, too many people who reject modern medicine absolutely will not admit that their favorite remedies may have any kind of a downside. Anyone who disagrees with them or tries to present "the other side of the story" is immediately slapped down and stomped on. Well, stomp away--you only discredit yourself and the alternative medicine field, which is a shame.

I have nothing against alternative medicine. There are many therapies that work very well. There are just as many that don't work at all.

_________________(fill in the blank) will cure everything! No side effects! All natural! Kills all bacteria and viruses! Never go to a doctor again! Save Money!( Oh, by the way, we are not doctors, we are not licensed, we do not diagnose, we do not prescribe, we do not advise, we do not recommend, this product is experimental, this product has not been clinically tested, this product has not been proven...) Sooooooo many disclaimers...

Companies sell these products because they make money. They use testimonials from customers to circumvent FDA and FTC regulations. They use their customers for free advertising--of course, all big companies do that.

Medical Mafia Cartel--How 'bout "Cure-All Cosa Nostra"? Frankly, I don't see the difference.

-- Sam Mcgee (weissacre@gwtc.net), October 28, 1999.


SAM sez:'Medical Mafia Cartel'? Your response is exactly why people, such as myself, are dubious of any "product" that claims to be a cure- all.

Sam, if you read my post carefully, I do not say 'cure-all' as it relates to alternative medicine. I do not even imply it.

SAM sez: There are pros and cons to everything--except, apparently, anything to do with alternative medicine.

I agree, but when you go to your doctor with a chronic problem, does he offer you alternatives to cut, burn and medicate? Only very very rarely are you advised of alternatives. The doctor offers the pros and cons as it relates exclusively to allopathic practices, which leaves the average joe not much of a choice, that is unless he is apprised of non-invasive alternatives.

SAM sez: From what I've read on this and other forums and from innumerable websites, too many people who reject modern medicine absolutely will not admit that their favorite remedies may have any kind of a downside. Anyone who disagrees with them or tries to present "the other side of the story" is immediately slapped down and stomped on. Well, stomp away--you only discredit yourself and the alternative medicine field, which is a shame.

I don't reject modern medicine, Sam. It most definitely has it's place. I happen to appreciate emergency and orthopedic medicine, as I feel there is no replacement for the treatment of acute problems such as a severed artery, a heartattack in progress or a broken bone. My beef is with the medical establishment that attempts to treat the symptoms of chronic problems without addressing the cause while suppressing, maligning, belittling and crushing alternative therapies that treat the cause.

SAM sez: I have nothing against alternative medicine. There are many therapies that work very well. There are just as many that don't work at all. _________________(fill in the blank) will cure everything! No side effects! All natural! Kills all bacteria and viruses! Never go to a doctor again! Save Money!

Sam, I don't believe in cure alls either. It takes effort and commitment to get and stay healthy. There are no short cuts. There are health aids, health boosters and problem specific remedies, but cure alls? I have yet to run across one myself. Dr. Lorraine Day cured her cancer through diet + mind. Go figure. She didn't buy into anyone's claims of the cure-all product you are fingering, yet she is being villified and harrassed. Get my point? Sam, there are so very many wonderful ways you can make problems go away without cut, burn and medicate, I can't even begin to tell you. Many of them don't even involve anything more than what you can find in your kitchen cupboard. Having been a student of alternative therapy for 15+ years, I am still astounded at what allopathic doctors continue not to know. Patients are having to teach doctors about ways to deal with disfunctions of the liver, gallbladder, stomach, circulatory, intenstinal and nervous systems. Many of these 'diseases, maladies' can be rectified with adjustments in diet and additions of nutritional supplements.

SAM sez:( Oh, by the way, we are not doctors, we are not licensed, we do not diagnose, we do not prescribe, we do not advise, we do not recommend, this product is experimental, this product has not been clinically tested, this product has not been proven...) Sooooooo many disclaimers...Companies sell these products because they make money. They use testimonials from customers to circumvent FDA and FTC regulations. They use their customers for free advertising--of course, all big companies do that.

This is the exact reason why the allopathic cut, burn and medicate medical establishment must be referred to as a cartel, because you have to have millions upons millions of dollars to purchase acceptability from the FDA. Perhaps, many years ago, testing was real and results were actually used to protect the consumer from potentially damaging/harmful/deadly foods and drugs, but that was when there was 'some' integrity with regard to FDA standards. Thanks to corruption and collusion between the FDA and the drug/food companies cartel, our society has been harmed with items such as Prozac (flouride derivate), Aspartame aka Nutrasweet (pending lawsuits...Monsanto has 'divested' themselves of the product), Phen- Phen (deadly diet aid), Ibuprofin and Acetaminophen (causes liver damage-admitted by Dr. James C. Jamieson who holds the patent on acetaminophen aka Tylenol), oh and for you old timers, don't forget Thalidomide. Consider these drugs only a small sampling of the problem, all delivered to you, courtesy of the FDA, through the drug companies whose primary concern is to make money. The FDA is now one of the most corrupt arms of the government. Many FDA officials are former employees of these big companies.

One other aspect of drugs that many do not understand is that most are artificially produced versions of, or actual derivatives of, medicinal herbs. Artificial production of a medicinal herb or extraction of a specific property thereof fractionalizes and concentrates the properties of that herb. What is wrong with that? Well, that is why there are side effects to drugs. Actually, there are side effects to taking too much of an herb, or ingesting the wrong herb for a condition as well as possible harmful effects if taken under certain circumstances. Herbs are powerful, in their own right.

What occurs when you have a side effect? You have to understand how a composite versus a derivative works on the chemistry of the body. When an herb based (or artificial replication) drug is created to produce a reaction, it attempts to mimic a specific property of an herb inside the body. Herbs normally work subtley, taking days, if not longer, to produce reactions. Drugs produce reactions very quickly because they contain a particular property in much greater proportions, and the results can work, however, one has to deal with side effects because the other properties of the herb are missing. That is due to the body and it's reactions. Both herbs and drugs attempt to mimic brain chemical functions. These functions are a precise coordination of varying chemicals in exact proportions that no drug or herb will ever be able to properly mimic. Thus you have a choice. Herbs or drugs? One is less invasive over the other.

As an aside, if a drug is produced without an herb based chemistry...then it is created to reproduce brain chemical function, by experimentation on same. Period.

-- OR (orwelliator@biosys.net), October 29, 1999.


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