I'm curious in finding out what people really think a "motor vehicle" is?

-- (nondyoak@gte.net), October 22, 1999

Answers

As for what a motor is, it is an electriclly driven mechanical device that turns when power is applied (simple answer)

An engine is a gas, diesel, or other type of fuel driven mechanical device. (simple answer)

A vehicle can be a carrage, bicycle, cart, car, truck or any such device that is manually or mechanicly driven. (again simple answer)

Driven: not as in steered or aimed but in motivated by.

If you would like more indepth and less simple answers I can haul out my books on diesel & gas engine technology.

Ed - 3 credit from getting degree in diesel technology

-- Ed (ed_brigdes@yahoo.com), October 23, 1999.

Thanks Ed However, I was looking for peoples' definition of this word from a legal standpoint. If you want to change laws (i.e. 695) then you should be aware of the words that make up the laws, and what their meanings are. This is where the confusion begins.....

One example... http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/31.html At the above website, we already have a very clear and concise definition of what a MV is, the definition and its implication are listed below.... ''Motor vehicle'' means every description of carriage or other contrivance propelled or drawn by mechanical power and used for commercial purposes on the highways in the transportation of passengers, passengers and property, or property or cargo; FOLLOWED BY THIS DEFINITION ''Used for commercial purposes'' means the carriage of persons or property for any fare, fee, rate, charge or other consideration, or directly or indirectly in connection with any business, or other undertaking intended for profit;

This information is not new, but the question should be raised,... when you or I get into our jalopy, and go to the store, grandma's, school, a friends house, or whatever,,, and according to the above LEGAL definitions of the term defined, JUST WHO AM I CHARGING THIS FARE, FEE, RATE?

FACT: If you are engaged in a non-commercial activity, charging nothing, and NOT utilizing the roads as a place for profit, gain, etc., you do not need tabs, license plates, driver's license, etc...

This type of talk tends to heat the collar of your average Citizen, getting nit picky, but as long as the power structure can keep the serfs from learning the truth, they will always have the upper hand or be one step ahead of us.

Such is the case for 695, the People have a chance to pull the reins of government, and we've seen a pretty good bit of squirming, and whining about what may come as a "consequential result" of our actions. And it will get worse...

Here are just a few more definitions of words (in the legal sense) that you thought you knew about.

LICENSE - "A license fee is a charge made primarily for regulation, with the fee to cover costs and expenses of supervision or regulation." State vs. Jackson, 60 Wisc.2d 700; 211 NW.2d 480, 487.

"a permit, granted by an appropriate governmental body, generally for consideration, to a person, firm, or corporation, to pursue some occupation or to carry on some business which is subject to regulation under the police power." [emphasis added] Rosenblatt vs. California State Board of Pharmacy, 158 P.2d 199, 203.

"The permission, by competent authority to do an act which without permission, would be illegal, a trespass, or a tort." People vs. Henderson, 218 NW.2d 2, 4.

TRAFFIC- "Traffic -- Commerce, trade, sale or exchange of merchandise, bills, money, or the like. The passing of goods and commodities from one person to another for an equivalent in goods or money..." Bovier's Law Dictionary, 1914 ed., p. 3307.

"...Traffic thereon is to some extent destructive, therefore, the prevention of unnecessary duplication of auto transportation service will lengthen the life of the highways or reduce the cost of maintenance, the revenue derived by the state...will also tend toward the public welfare by producing at the expense of those operating for private gain, some small part of the cost of repairing the wear..." Northern Pacific R.R. Co. vs. Schoenfeldt, 213 P. 26.

DRIVER- "Driver -- One employed in conducting a coach, carriage, wagon, or other vehicle..." Bovier's Law Dictionary, 1914 ed., p. 940. Notice that this definition includes one who is "employed" in conducting a vehicle

Remember, if they can get you into the COMMERCIAL world, then you have swallowed hook, line, and sinker.

Similar to FORD, have you "exercised" your "rights" lately??????

-- (nondyoak@gte.net), October 23, 1999.

nondyoak

you reply "''Motor vehicle'' means every description of carriage or other contrivance propelled or drawn by mechanical power"

well at least I got some of what you wanted right.

Seriously, I wasn't sure if you werelooking for the technicle terminogly or the legal. If I had known it was the legal, I would have dug out my Black's and other law books.

Ed - why do they call it four wheel drive when it is only two? check it out.

-- Ed (ed_brigdes@yahoo.com), October 24, 1999.