This may be hype, or a genuine concern. Did anyone hear what this poster is talking about?

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posted October 20, 1999 10:45 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That clinches it! It went by so fast I couldn't get it word for word, but it was issued to all law enforcement agencies. The essence of it was that all people or groups that feel that y2k has any appocalyptic implications or end time implications are to be watched and considered dangerous. They are to be considered hate groups. If someone can get the exact text and post it on this thread,that would be very helpful. Gradually, even if we don't believe y2k is Armegeddon, we are being painted as dangerous looney tunes(sorry loon!). I wonder if as y2k approaches, we won't be blamed for more and more problems.

Shirley

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-- Jon ohnson (narnia4@usa.net), October 20, 1999

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Only trouble is: We're not a group. Hard to "watch" people who sit in their homes and type.

-- Mara (MaraWayne@aol.com), October 20, 1999.

My coworker mentioned that she heard on the news this morning that law enforcement would be keeping a close eye on all those cultists and militia members who might stir up troubles because they believe Y2K is Armageddon.

While I'm sure that keeping an eye on known extremists is a good idea as the millennium draws to a close, "news" pieces like this only serve to make it more difficult for those of us who are working in our neighborhoods to try to convince people to prepare.

Sometimes it just makes me want to spit!

-- Faith Weaver (suzsolutions@yahoo.com), October 20, 1999.

See:

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=001cBA

I posted an article down in the thread about how the FBI has :: Snip

The campaign includes the national distribution of a report titled Project Megiddo in which federal authorities assess threats posed by hate groups and explain the significance of biblical references the groups use to discuss Y2K.

The project, which is named for an ancient battleground in Israel associated with Armageddon, will be the centerpiece of an FBI seminar this month before the International Association of Chiefs of Police in Charlotte, N.C.

SNIP: Well, alls well that ends well.....

Things will get worse before they get better....

-- Helium (Heliumavid@yahoo.com), October 20, 1999.

The millenium buzzwords "hate group". Don't you just love it?

Are you paying attention?

-- OR (orwelliator@biosys.net), October 20, 1999.

Let em watch! As Treasurer of NoVA (Northern VA) Y2K Community Action group, I'm sure I would prove to be a "boring" subject. Today, I walked my children to the bus stop in the rain, I'm currently doing laundry, taking my daughters to religious school and working at the local elementary school's book fair! My evening will be spent at a PTA meeting and making Girl Scout phone calls (I'm a GS Leader, too) Watch out, here comes y2k! Be well - ALL of you and be ready, just in case.

-- Gail (fialkow@erols.com), October 20, 1999.

Yep, this is "thought crime," pure and simple.

Think Y2k might be "The End?" You are a THREAT. You will be DEALT WITH.

Worried that the Feds might put you under survelliance for thoughtcrime? Then that FEAR of government makes you a threat, requiring that - you be put under survelliance!

Jesus! Next they'll confiscate all the Gideon bibles from every hotel room (subversive "hate literature" you know. All that in Revelations about Babylon being destroyed in an hour; can't have people thinking those kinds of thoughts, can we?).

Liberty

-- Liberty (liberty@theready.now), October 20, 1999.

>Hard to "watch" people who sit in their homes and type.

Tell that to the mirrorshades who are all over me like McNugget sauce on Clinton.

Liberty

-- Liberty (liberty@theready.now), October 20, 1999.

Here's how the military/police will be turned against the American people in the event of martial law - "Didn't you know- they're all lunatics watiting for the chance to overthrow the government!"

I feel like I'm living in a Hollywood box-office hit ' "Liberty, have you got that letter posted to all your friends/attorney "Open in the Event of my Death"?

So surreal - I hope I'm wrong.

-- dakota (none@thistime.com), October 20, 1999.

You folks might be new to the preparedness game, but the freedom movement has been doing so for nigh on ten years that I know of. These are your patriots, militias and those the .govs call "dissidents." Most of them, through my observations, are just God and country, (along with mom's apple pie), Americans and I've watched them being demonized and lied about for a long time... the government knows there will be trouble, and they're establishing the targets of blame ahead of time. The preps they have would make most of yours look like a week's groceries. These are not people to fear, they are just your neighbors. The problem for the .govs is there are just SO DAMN many of us, and so few of them. I'm certainly not out to do any harm, and the bulk of the militias are only playing defense, but they will not surrender their 2nd amendment.

-- Patrick (pmchenry@gradall.com), October 20, 1999.

Amen Patrick!

-- Farmbeet (farmbeets@patriot.corn), October 20, 1999.

The other groups/persons to watch listed by FBI & law inforcement were any persons know to state or associate w/ persons who state that they due have concerns about dwindling Constitutional rights etc.. & who fear a "New World Order", or extensive powers given to the UN etc.. also fundamental xtains.. ya all know how wacky they are...

-- watchie (thats@factjack.com), October 22, 1999.

http://www.usnewswire.com/topnews/Current_Releases/1020-134.htm

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ADL Report Examines Extremist's View of Y2K U.S. Newswire 20 Oct 14:36

ADL Report Examines Extremist's View of Y2K To: National Desk Contact: Myrna Shinbaum, 212-885-7747, or Todd Gutnick, 212-885-7755, both of the Anti-Defamation League; Web site: http://www.adl.org

NEW YORK, Oct. 20 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Anti-government militia groups, far-right religious fundamentalists and violence-prone political extremists are among the hundreds, and possibly thousands of extremists "hoping, expecting or preparing for the worst" as the next millennium nears, the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) says in a new report.

"Y2K Paranoia: Extremists Confront the Millennium" examines the varied reactions and expectations of elements on the fringes of society and warns of the potential for violence. The report focuses on anti-government militia and "Patriot" groups with theories of a government conspiracy, certain religious fundamentalists and cults predicting an apocalypse with Jews playing a conspiratorial or Satanic role, and far-right extremists seeking to blame the so-called Y2K bug on Jews and the federal government. Many of the groups are disseminating hate-filled propaganda on the Internet.

"Millennial cults, extremist groups and racial ideologues this year are bringing their assorted baggage to the Y2K happening," said Abraham H. Foxman, ADL national director. "The heightened expectations of the year 2000, mixed together with the widely reported possibility of computer meltdown, have generated a barrage of predictions and hysterical propaganda from those on the farthest fringes of society. While not all of these groups call for explicit action, many of their followers are hoping, expecting or preparing for the worst. We can only hope that these people will not act rashly or violently on their fears and expectations."

Predicting the Apocalypse

-- The Prophecy Club -- Members are selling books that warn of a government plan to establish an evil dictatorship and imprison "true believers" in concentration camps.

-- Aum Shinrikyo -- The Japanese cult responsible for the 1995 Tokyo subway attack is predicting Armageddon. Authorities fear the violence-prone group could strike again.

-- Gershon Salomon -- As leader of the Movement for the Establishment of the Temple, Salomon reportedly has asserted that he and his followers must "liberate" the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, destroy the Dome of the Rock Mosque and build the Third Temple foretold by the prophets.

-- Concerned Christians -- Authorities believe that the group may resort to violence in the streets of Jerusalem to hasten the Second Coming of Christ. Concerned Christians achieved notoriety last January when its followers were arrested and deported from Israel.

-- Yisrayl "Bill" Hawkins -- Hawkins, the leader of the House of Yahweh, and his followers are awaiting the return of Jesus in a compound in Abilene, Texas. The group reportedly is stockpiling arms.

-- Robert Millar -- The leader of a Christian Identity settlement in Muldrow, Okla., Millar's white supremacist teachings include predictions of a series of disasters after 2000 that will remove the wicked from the earth. The settlement, dubbed Elohim City, reportedly is heavily armed.

Extreme Right Hatemonters

-- National Socialist White Revolutionary Party -- Believes that an impending Russian nuclear, chemical and biological assault on the United States will lead to the forming of a globalist government.

-- James Wickstrom -- An Identity minister in Michigan with links to Posse Comitatus, a loosely organized group of Identity survivalists, Wickstrom predicts Y2K will bring widespread chaos perpetrated by the "Jew and antichrist world system." He claims there's a Jewish conspiracy to downplay Y2K and insists the NATO strikes against Serbia were intended to divert attention from an impending world disaster.

-- Christian Defense League -- The virulently anti-Semitic Christian Defense League in Arabi, La. believes Y2K is actually a Jewish plot to take over the world.

-- Church of Israel -- Dan Gayman, leader of the Missouri-based Church of Israel, a white supremacist group, predicts civil chaos, especially among "non-whites" whom he singles out from among welfare recipients as the most likely to resort to "unbridled killing" if the Y2K bug results in a temporary suspension of government entitlement programs. He advises followers to keep a "shotgun handy."

-- National Association for the Advancement of White People (NAAWP) -- Predicts a doomsday Y2K scenario that includes a stock market crash, a run on the banks and general mayhem.

Militia and "Patriot" Groups

-- John Trochman and the Militia of Montana -- On his Web site, Trochman repeatedly refers to "secret" military reports that suggest an imminent U.S. government takeover.

-- NORFED -- Indiana organization claims the computer systems at the Federal Reserve and other world financial institutions will malfunction, causing the international monetary system to collapse.

-- Col. James "Bo" Gritz -- A former Green Beret and presidential candidate for the extremist Populist Party, Gritz has trained hundreds of anti-government zealots to fight a so-called "New World Order."

------ EDITORS NOTE: ADL experts are available for interviews on the findings of Y2K Paranoia or for more information on extremist groups. The report may be viewed on the Internet at http://www.adl.org.

------ The Anti-Defamation League, founded in 1913, is the world's leading organization fighting anti-Semitism through programs and services that counteract hatred, prejudice and bigotry.

-0- /U.S. Newswire 202-347-2770/ 10/20 14:36

Copyright 1999, U.S. Newswire

-- Homer Beanfang (Bats@inbellfry.com), October 22, 1999.

More bovine excretia from the left-wing hate groups. (see thread below).

-- thanks Homer (wisdom@bible.God), October 22, 1999.