The number one film right now is "Fightclub." The film builds up to the destruction of credit card data centers and credit reporting agencies by an underground network of terrorists. This is built up as a liberating event, a blow struck for the little guy.

Also, at one point in the film, by way of explaining why a bunch of guys get together for bare-knuckle fighting, the narrator says "we have no war, no depression." Experiencing pain and agression makes them feel like real men. There is a strong class-warfare mentality, and an "anti-materialist" line is repeated throughout the film: "you are not what you own."

Are we looking at an attempt to get us to "look on the bright side" RE the destruction of debt, and of credit-reporting? Are we seeing in this film, and attempt to romanticize the Great Depression, and War, and the machismo that is required to get through these hard times? Are we looking at Hollywood/Washington's attempt to commodify the resentment of the "little guy," and diminish our expectations of, or sense of entitlement to, personal wealth?

Just asking. It's a great movie, despite any social engineering that may or may not be riding it's carrier-wave. My main concern is the image of "anarchists" (equivalent to the gov/media's bogus "cyberterrorist threat") "attacking" data centers. It seems we're being made familiar with that theme, so we can all hum it together when the results of greed and stupid mis-management hit with the Y2k rollover.

Liberty

-- Liberty (liberty@theready.now), October 17, 1999

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Liberty - Hollywood is contolled by the illuminati for want of a better word.

There are no coincidences anymore...

Have you seen "Three Kings" where they give the Gold back and all go back to nowheresville...

Do you know who just got the Nobel Prize for Economics?

The guy that is behind the Euro/Gold/Oil new currency - a gold advocate...

No coincidences...

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), October 17, 1999.

"In the Robert Mundell speech for which Steve H provided a link, the laureate said as early as 1997 there would be a new gold market and that central banks would look to settling with gold at free market prices. He suggested that this would occur in the 21st century. Was it last year, the gave Prize was awarded to Black and Scholes -- and then LTCM -- where Scholes was employed -- promptly went under water? Now Mundell wins the Nobel Prize while the gold carry trade implodes. The former honed tools for statist economics; the latter honed tools for free currency and gold markets and a much-needed competitor for the dollar. One became the tools of the status quo; the other the tools for a new economy."

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), October 17, 1999.

The capstone will be put on the Great Pyramid of Giza on January 1, 2000. Them that have ears, let them hear.

Liberty

-- Liberty (liberty@theready.now), October 18, 1999.

Liberty,

Check out www.davidicke.com for the latest on that...

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), October 18, 1999.

Andy -- thanks for "warning" on "3 Kings" and saving me time and money. The gave the gold back? Sheesh. You can count on Hollywood big studios/distributors copping out. TV the same thing.

-- A (A@AisA.com), October 18, 1999.

A balm!!! It might bite him. Quick! Throw it in the trough.

-- Mrs. Cohen (mp@lob.com), October 18, 1999.

A,

you should REALLY go and see it...

it is an excellent movie, not at all what you would think...

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), October 18, 1999.

Saw part of the movie last night. Walked out. It was deplorable. Walked out when they went to the liposuction waste dumpsters to get human fat to make "soap". This movie started bad and never got better till I walked out. I like movies. The last movie I walked out on was Twin Peaks. Thought the MOVIE Twin Peaks was psychotic.

Fight club: Some cubicle Dweeb needs some excitement so gets chumped into some sicko fight club relationship with some hustler bum (brad pit). I knew there was some "plot twist" to come when I left. The movie was so bad, crummy; depicting such idiotic behavior by the dweeb chump bored guy needing excitement, that I didn't care to waste anymore of my time. How pitiful a life did the dork have to go live in the state he did after his condo blew up. Neurotic...hey...that's Ok...but that guy's behavior and life choices were pitiful. Why watch such garbage. Would you listen to such a story from or about some loser in or at a bar? Even a crummy low life scummy bar? They why sit thru such a waste in a theatre?

No need to flame. Everybody has different opinions and taste. This man (me) doesn't care to spend his free time and money volunteering to watch sick human pathology -- on screen or in real life. The less you even THINK about screwed up people and how they are, the better off your life is, I've found. And, for the record, I used to box. Have had over 2500 fights in my life....mostly against bullies and hoodlums picking on other people when I was younger...never lost a single one. That's why a movie with the name "fight club" interested me. What a joke. After a few weeks, against anybody who knew how to "street fight", there wouldn't be any able bodied members in such a "club". How bored most suburban dorks and dorkettes must be to be able to enjoy such unrealistic sick "fantasies" if you can call them that. Brain puke...for dorks.

-- Genius (codelinger@work.now), October 18, 1999.